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Sat 03/08/08 01:00 PM

when you put your hand to the plough you do not look back


nothing can read any map less it know the key/revelation as put forth by the author that wrote it, and the revelation/key/
understanding/code/ of the entire book be contained in the first pages....PARTAKE NOT OF THE TREE "(we shall be as trees planted by rivers of living water, so trees are people within the pages of this map, as take the highway to heaven was said, so map is the correct key/thinking/revelation)....OF THE KNOWLEDGE (to know or be aware of) OF GOOD AND EVIL.....so hear from the perspective that no good or evil exist, just love.....(look not to the left or right).....
to hear from the perspective of ALL words coming from a most dear best friend, a lover even that wish all GOOD to the one it love......the rest of the book CANNOT be known without doing this....."and the laws/truths of the book have been written on YOUR hearts.......truth/god....rest in the heart of each man, so then children of god is an appropriate term......
what got adam and eve (no need to tell of the life of ALL humans, just one pair as all are the same)...."all men are created equal"......they kicked themself out of where they heard GOD/LOVE/EDEN/........didn't see that map key so just ******misinterpreted the voice that spoke thoughts to them in their minds******what man create his own thoughts? what man has requested his IQ or personality.......IF these things are true, then they change everything since adam and eve......IF they do then it is easy to see where in history we are.....IF they are true many in high places that make billions will not want them to be heard.....IF they are true no man need saving and a BIG business come to an end, to make a NEW beginning.....IF....just questions, thats all

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Sat 03/08/08 02:07 PM
David

what i said was a quote from Yahshua about once you are baptized in his name and recieve the Holy Spirit. That if you turn back to your own ways then you are not fit for the kingdom of heaven.

This is the same analogy as when israel came out of egypt. That generation did not make it to the promice land because they kept wanting to leave and go back to Egypt. A type of sin. As our reward also is the promice land.

this road map you speak of where does it begin. To go somewhere you must know where you are to start.Same as in any type job. You learn the basics and then you learn the more complex nature of your job.

This is true of the bible. The OT is the basics we must learn to understand and go on to higher learning. This is why I keep and practice the law. We all know thier is nothing like experience. I have learned through the law that all those animal sacrafises have a very deep meaning. Those sacrafices align perfectly with the trumpets and the woes at the end of the book. Tells me what is going on and where we are at.The commandments do the same thing. The NT is higher learning with the help of Yahweh's spirit. The masters prayer from learning the basics you see is prophecy. Left for those who would do his will. The things that Paul says you can find right out of the law. You can see the marraige supper from the Passover. All the NT goes right back to the basics the OT. This is why Yahweh said he would make a better covenant. He would write his laws in our minds


Heb 8:7-12

For if that first covenant had been faultless, then no place would have been sought for a second. 8 Because finding fault with THEM, He says: "Behold, the days are coming, says Yahweh, when I will make a new covenant with the house of Israel and with the house of Judah — 9 not according to the covenant that I made with their fathers in the day when I took them by the hand to lead them out of the land of Egypt; because they did not continue in My COVENANT, and I disregarded them, says Yahweh 10 For this is the covenant that I will make with the house of Israel after those days, says Yahweh: I will put My LAWS in their mind and write them on their hearts; and I will be their Elohim, and they shall be My people. 11 None of them shall teach his neighbor, and none his brother, saying, 'Know the Master,' for all shall know Me, from the least of them to the greatest of them. 12 For I will be merciful to their unrighteousness, and their sins and their lawless deeds I will remember no more."
NKJV
Notice when he writes these laws on the peoples minds and hearts he says MY LAWS. This is a quote from Jeremiah. Prophecy The Holy Spirit that comes from Yahweh is his Laws that he puts on us.

This is shown with the cloven tongues in Acts 2. Cloven tongues of fire. Why that?

The Tongue represents the word his laws comming upon them. The Fire represents as I have told some people. That it is the presenence of Yahweh. Yahweh is a consuming fire. So this being now if you are attached you are really attacking Yahweh. For he protects you.

The law being done away. What does this mean? These chosen who have the law written on them. And remember Yahweh says he will remember thier sins no more. Is saying when you break no law as you do them because you want to. Thier is no law for you so the law is done away. But the spirit of truth will only come to those who love Yahweh and obey him as an obedient son. So we become like Yahshua. Now those who say we have no law are convicted already in thier hearts and will be judged by Yahshua at the end of the 1000 year regien. Accorroding to thier works. Zechariah says during the 100 year regein all those who are left will keep the OT law. Why? Because they refused to accept the blood of Yahshua. and prefer to stay in egypt. Peter calls the chosen ones a Royal Priesthood. Why? Because Yahshua is King of kings and our High Priest after the order of Melchezidec. We will be Royalty also. We will help him establish the law.

Without practiceing and keeping the law. When Yahshua comes back would we know what to do?

So this Royal Priesthood iis preparing for Yahshua's return and then will be Royal Priests through out the land. Administrating this law. As we will be spirit being but like Yahshua when he came back and showed his wounds to Thomas.


David I can tell in your heart you really want and yearn to do what is right. But if you want to be part of this road map to Royalty. You must practice and keep the law in preparation for Yahshua's return. Because 1 day is as a 1000 years to Yahweh. This makes us in the 6th day of Yahweh. Yahshua says when he comes back he will bring us rest. That is the 7th day.

On the 6th day though you prepare yourself for the comming of the 7th day. david It is time to Prepare or he will come upon you like a thief in the night. But to those preparing he promises he will let them know when he is comming.


May Yahweh's True Shalom Be With You...Miles

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Sat 03/08/08 02:27 PM
Edited by wouldee on Sat 03/08/08 02:30 PM

David

what i said was a quote from Yahshua about once you are baptized in his name and recieve the Holy Spirit. That if you turn back to your own ways then you are not fit for the kingdom of heaven.

This is the same analogy as when israel came out of egypt. That generation did not make it to the promice land because they kept wanting to leave and go back to Egypt. A type of sin. As our reward also is the promice land.

this road map you speak of where does it begin. To go somewhere you must know where you are to start.Same as in any type job. You learn the basics and then you learn the more complex nature of your job.

This is true of the bible. The OT is the basics we must learn to understand and go on to higher learning. This is why I keep and practice the law. We all know thier is nothing like experience. I have learned through the law that all those animal sacrafises have a very deep meaning. Those sacrafices align perfectly with the trumpets and the woes at the end of the book. Tells me what is going on and where we are at.The commandments do the same thing. The NT is higher learning with the help of Yahweh's spirit. The masters prayer from learning the basics you see is prophecy. Left for those who would do his will. The things that Paul says you can find right out of the law. You can see the marraige supper from the Passover. All the NT goes right back to the basics the OT. This is why Yahweh said he would make a better covenant. He would write his laws in our minds


Heb 8:7-12

For if that first covenant had been faultless, then no place would have been sought for a second. 8 Because finding fault with THEM, He says: "Behold, the days are coming, says Yahweh, when I will make a new covenant with the house of Israel and with the house of Judah — 9 not according to the covenant that I made with their fathers in the day when I took them by the hand to lead them out of the land of Egypt; because they did not continue in My COVENANT, and I disregarded them, says Yahweh 10 For this is the covenant that I will make with the house of Israel after those days, says Yahweh: I will put My LAWS in their mind and write them on their hearts; and I will be their Elohim, and they shall be My people. 11 None of them shall teach his neighbor, and none his brother, saying, 'Know the Master,' for all shall know Me, from the least of them to the greatest of them. 12 For I will be merciful to their unrighteousness, and their sins and their lawless deeds I will remember no more."
NKJV
Notice when he writes these laws on the peoples minds and hearts he says MY LAWS. This is a quote from Jeremiah. Prophecy The Holy Spirit that comes from Yahweh is his Laws that he puts on us.

This is shown with the cloven tongues in Acts 2. Cloven tongues of fire. Why that?

The Tongue represents the word his laws comming upon them. The Fire represents as I have told some people. That it is the presenence of Yahweh. Yahweh is a consuming fire. So this being now if you are attached you are really attacking Yahweh. For he protects you.

The law being done away. What does this mean? These chosen who have the law written on them. And remember Yahweh says he will remember thier sins no more. Is saying when you break no law as you do them because you want to. Thier is no law for you so the law is done away. But the spirit of truth will only come to those who love Yahweh and obey him as an obedient son. So we become like Yahshua. Now those who say we have no law are convicted already in thier hearts and will be judged by Yahshua at the end of the 1000 year regien. Accorroding to thier works. Zechariah says during the 100 year regein all those who are left will keep the OT law. Why? Because they refused to accept the blood of Yahshua. and prefer to stay in egypt. Peter calls the chosen ones a Royal Priesthood. Why? Because Yahshua is King of kings and our High Priest after the order of Melchezidec. We will be Royalty also. We will help him establish the law.

Without practiceing and keeping the law. When Yahshua comes back would we know what to do?

So this Royal Priesthood iis preparing for Yahshua's return and then will be Royal Priests through out the land. Administrating this law. As we will be spirit being but like Yahshua when he came back and showed his wounds to Thomas.


David I can tell in your heart you really want and yearn to do what is right. But if you want to be part of this road map to Royalty. You must practice and keep the law in preparation for Yahshua's return. Because 1 day is as a 1000 years to Yahweh. This makes us in the 6th day of Yahweh. Yahshua says when he comes back he will bring us rest. That is the 7th day.

On the 6th day though you prepare yourself for the comming of the 7th day. david It is time to Prepare or he will come upon you like a thief in the night. But to those preparing he promises he will let them know when he is comming.


May Yahweh's True Shalom Be With You...Miles



Miles,
I highlighted the last of your words with good reason.

The seventh day is the rest of the Lord.

If uyou had the Holy Spirit you would know that rest is indwelling you now, and would be looking forward to the eighth day, which is beyond the age of Grace, when Christ himself will reign.

On that day, and for 1000 years thereafter there is no longer the age of grace or of the filling of the Church of jesus Christ which will then be full;.......

....but rather then, the presence of God revealed in every human heart (soul) without faith, but on command.

The repentance and knowledge of error coming from that is not about Christ any longer but about the revelation of truth to all, like it or not, that Christ is in fact God and him shall they worship as the supreme and Holy (only) lawgiver and judge of mankind.

Now heaven will begin to be filled once these are tested at the end of that particular age yet to come.

In the meantime, the world is in the seventh day whether they recognize the Lordship of Jesus Christ or not.

That is what scripture teaches, Miles.

That is not open to interpretation. nor change.

learn more about it.

you are still a babe and should be quiet.

put you hand to the first plow and learn of Him.

When you are ready to teach, He will do His works through you, you will not teach at all.


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Sat 03/08/08 02:44 PM
I am sorry but you do not know scripture at all. You can not you refuse Yahshua blood. And we do not go to heaven show me where Yahshua sets up a kingdom in heaven.. I showed you a jewel in what i wrote. i doubt if you can understand it.. Come off your high horse. is what you say to me the fruit of the spirit?..Blessings...Miles

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Sat 03/08/08 03:55 PM
Edited by wouldee on Sat 03/08/08 04:07 PM
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quit looking at it only and eat it.

then you will know, Miles.

It is called the Tree of Life.

The other tree is mentioned as being the fruit of the serpent that mingles the mind and creates the second word spoken as though the Living Word was not sufficient, nor abundant.

There is sin and its definition. The word of the serpent couterfeiting the word of God.

Still, you get caught up in everything but the reason Jesus spoke so plainly.

Apparently the mystery of His fellowship eludes you still for your much speaking.

Know yourself first, Miles.

Then show the jewel that abides, not your romantic notions of the jewels of your own making.

Froward is as froward gets, Miles.


By the way, Miles. God is still talking to you about you. Keep those words where they are placed, in your heart for you to ponder about yourself. You still insist that your haughtiness is authority to suppose on another.

Read your own post to yourself and eat it. Quit looking at it only.

As I have said now, twice.

and yet what you are saying , you are also saying to God.

Remember the word. Jesus IS JHWH.

The blood spilled is where you bury your sins, Miles. Not in my lap or in God's face.

Sit down and rest and know that he is God.

you are wrestling with yourself only.

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Sat 03/08/08 04:22 PM
you have been so corrupted, believing in something you do not even know what it is.. your savior is spoken of in john 5 43 and rev 2.the one you call upon. thier was no letter j in any language before 1400ad

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Sat 03/08/08 04:37 PM
Edited by wouldee on Sat 03/08/08 04:47 PM
Kingdom of Heaven, taught by Jesus. Matthew 10:5-7 begins the lesson for the twelve to preach to Israel before the cross and before Pentecost when the Holy Spirit was given them after the LORD rose from the dead.

"These twelve Jesus sent forth, and commanded them, saying. Go not into the way of the Gentiles, and into (any) city of the Samaritans enter ye not:
But go rather to the lost sheep of the house of Israel.

And as ye go, preach, saying, The kingdom of Heaven is at hand."

There you have it, Miles.

Now a little context before you bash me again in your ignorance and lack of spiritual understanding.

The church(in its infancy), while not yet indwelt with the Holy Spirit, was commanded to preach to their own first.

Taking your doctrine to the church first will test its validity, Miles.

Read the rest of Matthew 10:8-42.

Then, as Jesus showed, the world will come to you, that is seeking him. For they shall receive you that receive Him in you.


You are in the fiery trial of your faith here in this thread, Miles.

Your preaching is being tested here, in small part.


Your last post shows that you do not even know what thwe Kingdom of Heaven really is or where to find it.

You seek answers from me, and then refuse them as though you know so much better than God, The Holy Bible, or me(being His).

Ask not man of God, but ask God for the things of God.


You are not ready to preach anything in Christ's (yashua or Yahway's) name.

You don't even know the charge, nor its responsibilities, nor its reward.

You don't even know where to begin.


How could you, by your own admiision, you don't even know what the Kingdom of Heaven is!!!!

Sit down, be still and rest and know that He is God.

You are ill equipped to do anything but learn, and I am not your teacher, I am merely an echo of your own accountability to Jesus Christ, your judge, for your words and actions being said in His name.

God is your judg and the Holy Spirit is your teacher and as yet you have not received it.

God is speaking to your heart for your sake, but Christ is not speaking through you for His sake.

Miles is speaking out of His lack, especially when Miles seeks answers from men that Miles believes are devils and of the synagogue of Satan, as you have so supposed upon me.


You make no sense asking me where the Kingdom of Heaven is, Miles.

It is right in front of your face and ecver present.

But it is spiritually discerned, and that, is not yet upon your person, Miles.

Again,

sit down, be still and know that He is God!!!!

flowerforyou :heart: bigsmile

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Sat 03/08/08 04:45 PM

you have been so corrupted, believing in something you do not even know what it is.. your savior is spoken of in john 5 43 and rev 2.the one you call upon. thier was no letter j in any language before 1400ad



A dog turns again to his own vomit when he eats too much and is still hungry for having regurgitaing the wrong food.

Be it a 'J' or a "y" is only but an English representatiion of something that does not appear in the Hebrew language.

Is "Y" your God, or an Idol, Miles?

Yashua,yahweh? Jesus, JHWH? Jesus, YHWH?

He is still the same, Miles.

The problem is not the "Y" of it , Miles.

The problem is why you insist on being foolish and straining at a splinter when there is a log in your eye.

We have a saying that we teach our children, Miles.

I will share it with you.

See if it riles your contempt for truth beyond measure.

One cannot see the forest for the trees.

Sit down, be still and know that He is God.

flowerforyou :heart: bigsmile

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Sat 03/08/08 05:01 PM
Edited by wouldee on Sat 03/08/08 05:03 PM

you have been so corrupted, believing in something you do not even know what it is.. your savior is spoken of in john 5 43 and rev 2.the one you call upon. thier was no letter j in any language before 1400ad



Miles,

I find this amusing to in the next verse .....

John 5:44.

"How can ye believe, which receive honor one from another, and seek not the honor that (cometh) from God only?"

and then Jesus said this, which he is saying is Him speaking to Moses, even though you insist that JHWH, or YJWH as you now like to put it, are not one in the same.

John 5:46-47, which end His words on the subject, Miles.

"For had ye believed Moses, ye would have believed me: for he wrote of me.
But if ye believe not his writings, how shall ye believe my words?"



There you have it, Miles.

Y or J, it is still Jesus.

And as long as you continue to dance around this like a hatdance, you will continue in your errors.

Jesus is God, your 'Y or J debate' is foolishness, you deny the deity of Christ, you insist you know better than the scriptures themselves and continue to eat the wrong things when you ought to be eating Christ and drinking His blood which are emblems of His word and His Spirit, neither of which, you comprehend as extant.

Sit down, be still, and know that He is God.

flowerforyou :heart: bigsmile

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