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Dragoness Joined Wed 10/17/07 Posts: 23320	Tue 02/26/08 01:53 PM
US Quietly Breaks UN Treaty By Leslie Griffith t r u t h o u t \| Perspective Tuesday 26 February 2008 On Friday, at a United Nations meeting in Geneva, the United States broke a series of legal promises. Keeping those promises would have proved extremely embarrassing to the United States government by pointing out that human rights abuses are being committed here at home and at US military installations abroad. In 1994, the United States Senate ratified the UN CONVENTION ON ELIMINATION OF all forms OF RACIAL DISCRIMINATION, promising to provide reports every two years on racial discrimination in the United States. The reports were to include anywhere in the world where the US military is in charge. In other words, the United States military, no matter where it was on the globe, agreed to report discrimination. That now includes Guantanamo and Abu Ghraib. The treaty is the "supreme law of the land" under the US Constitution, article 6, clause 2. Every nation that signed the treaty (one hundred seventy-seven) was charged with giving a national report on such basic areas of discrimination as health care, education and prison terms. According to the Meiklejohn Civil Liberties Institute and the National Lawyers Guild, the United States on Friday presented a report to the United Nations Committee, never mentioning Abu Ghraib, Guantanamo or the behavior of US corporations working under US military contracts. Instead, US officials presented facts on the federal level explaining (for instance) how much money was given to education, how much money was supplied to prisons, etc. Only four states: Oregon, Illinois, New Mexico and South Carolina, were mentioned, and officials in those states who were contacted by local activists say they never received any phone calls of inquiry by government officials. At least one hundred human rights groups were represented in Geneva on Friday, anxious to hear what the government had to say about racism here at home and abroad. According to the founder of the Meiklejohn Institute, Ann Fagan Ginger, her organization's independent report - also delivered in Geneva on Friday - provides statistics on racism toward Katrina victims, as well as discrepancies in life expectancy and other health care problems among African-Americans, Hispanics, Asian-Americans and Native Americans. In regard to US military interrogation centers, Wayne County [Michigan] Circuit Court Judge Claudia Morcom, (retired) representing the Meiklejohn Institute, told UN officials in Geneva what the world now knows. The basic racism practiced by the US military in both Abu Ghraib and in the detention centers of Guantanamo includes torture, degradation and illegal detention of hundreds of prisoners in these two facilities, based on race, nationality, ethnicity and religions of those arrested. Meiklejohn founder, attorney Ann Fagan Ginger, wrote, "There is no way any US citizen will be safe, even if Caucasian and native born, if the United States government can treat human beings as the US military has treated the men it sent to those two facilities." If only someone were listening. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- To view the report: http://www.mcli.org/MCLI_Report_to_CERD.pdf Leslie Griffith has been a journalist in newspaper, radio and television for 25 years. One of her first assignments was in Moscow during the cold war. Griffith has earned two Edward R. Murrow awards; nine Emmys; 37 Emmy nominations; the prestigious Casey Medal for helping to stop the exploitation of the nation's children; seven Radio Television and News Directors Association awards; the 2006 People's Choice Award for Best Anchor in Oakland Magazine, and the 2005 Associated Press Anchor of the Year. Griffith received commendation from The Associated Press for being the first to confirm on September 11, 2001, that the passengers on Flight 93 fought back. Griffith won the National Genesis Award for exposing abuse at Ringling Bros. and Barnum & Bailey Circus in 2005. Griffith is currently working on a book about corporate censorship of the media called "Shut-up and Read." To reach Griffith, go to Lesliegriffithproductions.com. -------

seaworthy1963 Joined Mon 08/14/06 Posts: 592	Tue 02/26/08 01:56 PM
God, I wish we would have broken it loudly.

itry Joined Sat 10/27/07 Posts: 1236	Tue 02/26/08 02:04 PM


rambill79 Joined Thu 09/14/06 Posts: 5780	Tue 02/26/08 02:06 PM Edited by rambill79 on Tue 02/26/08 02:08 PM
mabe its a small first step for us getting out of the UN WHICH WOULD BE THE SMARTEST THING WE COULD DO. RACIAL PROFILING DURING WAR isnt racist, its damn smart security work. sorryaboutit.

karmafury Joined Sun 11/12/06 Posts: 10156	Tue 02/26/08 02:18 PM Edited by karmafury on Tue 02/26/08 02:23 PM
US Quietly Breaks UN Treaty By Leslie Griffith t r u t h o u t \| Perspective Tuesday 26 February 2008 On Friday, at a United Nations meeting in Geneva, the United States broke a series of legal promises. Keeping those promises would have proved extremely embarrassing to the United States government by pointing out that human rights abuses are being committed here at home and at US military installations abroad. In 1994, the United States Senate ratified the UN CONVENTION ON ELIMINATION OF all forms OF RACIAL DISCRIMINATION, promising to provide reports every two years on racial discrimination in the United States. The reports were to include anywhere in the world where the US military is in charge. In other words, the United States military, no matter where it was on the globe, agreed to report discrimination. That now includes Guantanamo and Abu Ghraib. The treaty is the "supreme law of the land" under the US Constitution, article 6, clause 2. Every nation that signed the treaty (one hundred seventy-seven) was charged with giving a national report on such basic areas of discrimination as health care, education and prison terms. According to the Meiklejohn Civil Liberties Institute and the National Lawyers Guild, the United States on Friday presented a report to the United Nations Committee, never mentioning Abu Ghraib, Guantanamo or the behavior of US corporations working under US military contracts. Instead, US officials presented facts on the federal level explaining (for instance) how much money was given to education, how much money was supplied to prisons, etc. Only four states: Oregon, Illinois, New Mexico and South Carolina, were mentioned, and officials in those states who were contacted by local activists say they never received any phone calls of inquiry by government officials. At least one hundred human rights groups were represented in Geneva on Friday, anxious to hear what the government had to say about racism here at home and abroad. According to the founder of the Meiklejohn Institute, Ann Fagan Ginger, her organization's independent report - also delivered in Geneva on Friday - provides statistics on racism toward Katrina victims, as well as discrepancies in life expectancy and other health care problems among African-Americans, Hispanics, Asian-Americans and Native Americans. In regard to US military interrogation centers, Wayne County [Michigan] Circuit Court Judge Claudia Morcom, (retired) representing the Meiklejohn Institute, told UN officials in Geneva what the world now knows. The basic racism practiced by the US military in both Abu Ghraib and in the detention centers of Guantanamo includes torture, degradation and illegal detention of hundreds of prisoners in these two facilities, based on race, nationality, ethnicity and religions of those arrested. Meiklejohn founder, attorney Ann Fagan Ginger, wrote, "There is no way any US citizen will be safe, even if Caucasian and native born, if the United States government can treat human beings as the US military has treated the men it sent to those two facilities." If only someone were listening. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- To view the report: http://www.mcli.org/MCLI_Report_to_CERD.pdf Leslie Griffith has been a journalist in newspaper, radio and television for 25 years. One of her first assignments was in Moscow during the cold war. Griffith has earned two Edward R. Murrow awards; nine Emmys; 37 Emmy nominations; the prestigious Casey Medal for helping to stop the exploitation of the nation's children; seven Radio Television and News Directors Association awards; the 2006 People's Choice Award for Best Anchor in Oakland Magazine, and the 2005 Associated Press Anchor of the Year. Griffith received commendation from The Associated Press for being the first to confirm on September 11, 2001, that the passengers on Flight 93 fought back. Griffith won the National Genesis Award for exposing abuse at Ringling Bros. and Barnum & Bailey Circus in 2005. Griffith is currently working on a book about corporate censorship of the media called "Shut-up and Read." To reach Griffith, go to Lesliegriffithproductions.com. ------- This is surprising how? There are a few key UN Conventions that the US refuses to deal with. The Convention on the Elimination of All Forms of Discrimination Against Women (CEDAW) On December 18, 1979, the United Nations adopted CEDAW which is the most comprehensive and detailed international agreement which seeks the advancement of women. CEDAW has been ratified by 179 countries. The United States is the only industrialized country that has not ratified the treaty, putting us in the company of countries such as Sudan, Iran and Somalia. The Convention on the Rights of the Child (CRC) The CRC was adopted by the UN in 1989, and is one of the most widely received conventions. The CRC has been accepted by 192 countries. The U.S. may soon be the only country in the world not to ratify this convention. The Convention on the Prohibition, Use, Stockpiling, Production and Transfer of Anti-Personnel Mines and on Their Destruction (The Ottawa Treaty) Five years after the 1992 founding of the International Campaign to Ban Landmines, over 143 countries met in Ottawa, Canada and signed a ban on anti-personnel mines. The United States has still not signed the treaty. Kyoto Protocol In 1997, the Kyoto Protocol legally bound industrialized countries by 2010 to reduce their collective emissions of six greenhouse gases by 5.2% compared to 1990 levels. One hundred forty-one (141) countries have signed the treaty, but the United States ( the largest producer of greenhouse gases) has not. The International Criminal Court (ICC) As of March 2005, 139 countries had signed the ICC, including the United States, and 98 countries had ratified the ICC. However, on May 2, 2002 the United States stated that it did not intend to be bound by its signature to the ICC and that is has no intention to ratify it. President Clinton signed the ICC, and President Bush and the Republican-led Senate refuse to ratify it. The ICC conducts trials of individuals accused of genocide, war crimes and crimes against humanity when there is no other recourse for justice. The ICC identifies gender crimes and the crime of apartheid as crimes against humanity. Article 7 of the Statute presents clear language that defines rape, sexual slavery, enforced prostitution, forced pregnancy, enforced sterilization, or any other form of sexual violence of comparable gravity as gender crimes. The International Covenant on Economic, Social and Cultural Rights (ICESCR) The ICESCR requires states to promote and protect a wide range of social, economic and cultural rights, including the right to health, to an adequate standard of living, to education, and to social protection. It is often referred to as the “International Bill of Rights.” The United States has yet to accept the ICESCR despite the fact that is has been approved by 149 countries. No key human rights treaty has been ratified by the United States under the guidelines by which it was adopted and enforced by the UN General Assembly. http://www.feministcampus.org/fmla/printable-materials/global_project/ratify_factsheet.pdf

celticpride0280 Joined Sat 12/01/07 Posts: 539	Tue 02/26/08 02:23 PM
DIE THREAD DIE!!!!!!!!

rambill79 Joined Thu 09/14/06 Posts: 5780	Tue 02/26/08 02:28 PM
US Quietly Breaks UN Treaty By Leslie Griffith t r u t h o u t \| Perspective Tuesday 26 February 2008 On Friday, at a United Nations meeting in Geneva, the United States broke a series of legal promises. Keeping those promises would have proved extremely embarrassing to the United States government by pointing out that human rights abuses are being committed here at home and at US military installations abroad. In 1994, the United States Senate ratified the UN CONVENTION ON ELIMINATION OF all forms OF RACIAL DISCRIMINATION, promising to provide reports every two years on racial discrimination in the United States. The reports were to include anywhere in the world where the US military is in charge. In other words, the United States military, no matter where it was on the globe, agreed to report discrimination. That now includes Guantanamo and Abu Ghraib. The treaty is the "supreme law of the land" under the US Constitution, article 6, clause 2. Every nation that signed the treaty (one hundred seventy-seven) was charged with giving a national report on such basic areas of discrimination as health care, education and prison terms. According to the Meiklejohn Civil Liberties Institute and the National Lawyers Guild, the United States on Friday presented a report to the United Nations Committee, never mentioning Abu Ghraib, Guantanamo or the behavior of US corporations working under US military contracts. Instead, US officials presented facts on the federal level explaining (for instance) how much money was given to education, how much money was supplied to prisons, etc. Only four states: Oregon, Illinois, New Mexico and South Carolina, were mentioned, and officials in those states who were contacted by local activists say they never received any phone calls of inquiry by government officials. At least one hundred human rights groups were represented in Geneva on Friday, anxious to hear what the government had to say about racism here at home and abroad. According to the founder of the Meiklejohn Institute, Ann Fagan Ginger, her organization's independent report - also delivered in Geneva on Friday - provides statistics on racism toward Katrina victims, as well as discrepancies in life expectancy and other health care problems among African-Americans, Hispanics, Asian-Americans and Native Americans. In regard to US military interrogation centers, Wayne County [Michigan] Circuit Court Judge Claudia Morcom, (retired) representing the Meiklejohn Institute, told UN officials in Geneva what the world now knows. The basic racism practiced by the US military in both Abu Ghraib and in the detention centers of Guantanamo includes torture, degradation and illegal detention of hundreds of prisoners in these two facilities, based on race, nationality, ethnicity and religions of those arrested. Meiklejohn founder, attorney Ann Fagan Ginger, wrote, "There is no way any US citizen will be safe, even if Caucasian and native born, if the United States government can treat human beings as the US military has treated the men it sent to those two facilities." If only someone were listening. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- To view the report: http://www.mcli.org/MCLI_Report_to_CERD.pdf Leslie Griffith has been a journalist in newspaper, radio and television for 25 years. One of her first assignments was in Moscow during the cold war. Griffith has earned two Edward R. Murrow awards; nine Emmys; 37 Emmy nominations; the prestigious Casey Medal for helping to stop the exploitation of the nation's children; seven Radio Television and News Directors Association awards; the 2006 People's Choice Award for Best Anchor in Oakland Magazine, and the 2005 Associated Press Anchor of the Year. Griffith received commendation from The Associated Press for being the first to confirm on September 11, 2001, that the passengers on Flight 93 fought back. Griffith won the National Genesis Award for exposing abuse at Ringling Bros. and Barnum & Bailey Circus in 2005. Griffith is currently working on a book about corporate censorship of the media called "Shut-up and Read." To reach Griffith, go to Lesliegriffithproductions.com. ------- This is surprising how? There are a few key UN Conventions that the US refuses to deal with. The Convention on the Elimination of All Forms of Discrimination Against Women (CEDAW) On December 18, 1979, the United Nations adopted CEDAW which is the most comprehensive and detailed international agreement which seeks the advancement of women. CEDAW has been ratified by 179 countries. The United States is the only industrialized country that has not ratified the treaty, putting us in the company of countries such as Sudan, Iran and Somalia. The Convention on the Rights of the Child (CRC) The CRC was adopted by the UN in 1989, and is one of the most widely received conventions. The CRC has been accepted by 192 countries. The U.S. may soon be the only country in the world not to ratify this convention. The Convention on the Prohibition, Use, Stockpiling, Production and Transfer of Anti-Personnel Mines and on Their Destruction (The Ottawa Treaty) Five years after the 1992 founding of the International Campaign to Ban Landmines, over 143 countries met in Ottawa, Canada and signed a ban on anti-personnel mines. The United States has still not signed the treaty. Kyoto Protocol In 1997, the Kyoto Protocol legally bound industrialized countries by 2010 to reduce their collective emissions of six greenhouse gases by 5.2% compared to 1990 levels. One hundred forty-one (141) countries have signed the treaty, but the United States ( the largest producer of greenhouse gases) has not. The International Criminal Court (ICC) As of March 2005, 139 countries had signed the ICC, including the United States, and 98 countries had ratified the ICC. However, on May 2, 2002 the United States stated that it did not intend to be bound by its signature to the ICC and that is has no intention to ratify it. President Clinton signed the ICC, and President Bush and the Republican-led Senate refuse to ratify it. The ICC conducts trials of individuals accused of genocide, war crimes and crimes against humanity when there is no other recourse for justice. The ICC identifies gender crimes and the crime of apartheid as crimes against humanity. Article 7 of the Statute presents clear language that defines rape, sexual slavery, enforced prostitution, forced pregnancy, enforced sterilization, or any other form of sexual violence of comparable gravity as gender crimes. The International Covenant on Economic, Social and Cultural Rights (ICESCR) The ICESCR requires states to promote and protect a wide range of social, economic and cultural rights, including the right to health, to an adequate standard of living, to education, and to social protection. It is often referred to as the “International Bill of Rights.” The United States has yet to accept the ICESCR despite the fact that is has been approved by 149 countries. No key human rights treaty has been ratified by the United States under the guidelines by which it was adopted and enforced by the UN General Assembly. http://www.feministcampus.org/fmla/printable-materials/global_project/ratify_factsheet.pdf if you take the time to read these documents, you would understand WHY we havent went there. the rights of the child, for example, is about taking away parental rights and giving control of them to the state. the various ways that they could declare a parent unfit would make everybody an " incompetent parent".

Marine1488 Joined Tue 12/18/07 Posts: 323	Tue 02/26/08 02:39 PM
I know hearing this might come as a shock to you dragon. We are not the United Nations. We are the United States. The greatest nation on the face of this earth. You moan like you have it soo bad. Need help finding the door? I bet you can still access this site from Canada. Thats north of us in case you didn't know. I don't wear a blue beret nor will I ever. Stick that in your peace pipe and smoke it!

karmafury Joined Sun 11/12/06 Posts: 10156	Tue 02/26/08 02:41 PM
US Quietly Breaks UN Treaty By Leslie Griffith t r u t h o u t \| Perspective Tuesday 26 February 2008 On Friday, at a United Nations meeting in Geneva, the United States broke a series of legal promises. Keeping those promises would have proved extremely embarrassing to the United States government by pointing out that human rights abuses are being committed here at home and at US military installations abroad. In 1994, the United States Senate ratified the UN CONVENTION ON ELIMINATION OF all forms OF RACIAL DISCRIMINATION, promising to provide reports every two years on racial discrimination in the United States. The reports were to include anywhere in the world where the US military is in charge. In other words, the United States military, no matter where it was on the globe, agreed to report discrimination. That now includes Guantanamo and Abu Ghraib. The treaty is the "supreme law of the land" under the US Constitution, article 6, clause 2. Every nation that signed the treaty (one hundred seventy-seven) was charged with giving a national report on such basic areas of discrimination as health care, education and prison terms. According to the Meiklejohn Civil Liberties Institute and the National Lawyers Guild, the United States on Friday presented a report to the United Nations Committee, never mentioning Abu Ghraib, Guantanamo or the behavior of US corporations working under US military contracts. Instead, US officials presented facts on the federal level explaining (for instance) how much money was given to education, how much money was supplied to prisons, etc. Only four states: Oregon, Illinois, New Mexico and South Carolina, were mentioned, and officials in those states who were contacted by local activists say they never received any phone calls of inquiry by government officials. At least one hundred human rights groups were represented in Geneva on Friday, anxious to hear what the government had to say about racism here at home and abroad. According to the founder of the Meiklejohn Institute, Ann Fagan Ginger, her organization's independent report - also delivered in Geneva on Friday - provides statistics on racism toward Katrina victims, as well as discrepancies in life expectancy and other health care problems among African-Americans, Hispanics, Asian-Americans and Native Americans. In regard to US military interrogation centers, Wayne County [Michigan] Circuit Court Judge Claudia Morcom, (retired) representing the Meiklejohn Institute, told UN officials in Geneva what the world now knows. The basic racism practiced by the US military in both Abu Ghraib and in the detention centers of Guantanamo includes torture, degradation and illegal detention of hundreds of prisoners in these two facilities, based on race, nationality, ethnicity and religions of those arrested. Meiklejohn founder, attorney Ann Fagan Ginger, wrote, "There is no way any US citizen will be safe, even if Caucasian and native born, if the United States government can treat human beings as the US military has treated the men it sent to those two facilities." If only someone were listening. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- To view the report: http://www.mcli.org/MCLI_Report_to_CERD.pdf Leslie Griffith has been a journalist in newspaper, radio and television for 25 years. One of her first assignments was in Moscow during the cold war. Griffith has earned two Edward R. Murrow awards; nine Emmys; 37 Emmy nominations; the prestigious Casey Medal for helping to stop the exploitation of the nation's children; seven Radio Television and News Directors Association awards; the 2006 People's Choice Award for Best Anchor in Oakland Magazine, and the 2005 Associated Press Anchor of the Year. Griffith received commendation from The Associated Press for being the first to confirm on September 11, 2001, that the passengers on Flight 93 fought back. Griffith won the National Genesis Award for exposing abuse at Ringling Bros. and Barnum & Bailey Circus in 2005. Griffith is currently working on a book about corporate censorship of the media called "Shut-up and Read." To reach Griffith, go to Lesliegriffithproductions.com. ------- This is surprising how? There are a few key UN Conventions that the US refuses to deal with. The Convention on the Elimination of All Forms of Discrimination Against Women (CEDAW) On December 18, 1979, the United Nations adopted CEDAW which is the most comprehensive and detailed international agreement which seeks the advancement of women. CEDAW has been ratified by 179 countries. The United States is the only industrialized country that has not ratified the treaty, putting us in the company of countries such as Sudan, Iran and Somalia. The Convention on the Rights of the Child (CRC) The CRC was adopted by the UN in 1989, and is one of the most widely received conventions. The CRC has been accepted by 192 countries. The U.S. may soon be the only country in the world not to ratify this convention. The Convention on the Prohibition, Use, Stockpiling, Production and Transfer of Anti-Personnel Mines and on Their Destruction (The Ottawa Treaty) Five years after the 1992 founding of the International Campaign to Ban Landmines, over 143 countries met in Ottawa, Canada and signed a ban on anti-personnel mines. The United States has still not signed the treaty. Kyoto Protocol In 1997, the Kyoto Protocol legally bound industrialized countries by 2010 to reduce their collective emissions of six greenhouse gases by 5.2% compared to 1990 levels. One hundred forty-one (141) countries have signed the treaty, but the United States ( the largest producer of greenhouse gases) has not. The International Criminal Court (ICC) As of March 2005, 139 countries had signed the ICC, including the United States, and 98 countries had ratified the ICC. However, on May 2, 2002 the United States stated that it did not intend to be bound by its signature to the ICC and that is has no intention to ratify it. President Clinton signed the ICC, and President Bush and the Republican-led Senate refuse to ratify it. The ICC conducts trials of individuals accused of genocide, war crimes and crimes against humanity when there is no other recourse for justice. The ICC identifies gender crimes and the crime of apartheid as crimes against humanity. Article 7 of the Statute presents clear language that defines rape, sexual slavery, enforced prostitution, forced pregnancy, enforced sterilization, or any other form of sexual violence of comparable gravity as gender crimes. The International Covenant on Economic, Social and Cultural Rights (ICESCR) The ICESCR requires states to promote and protect a wide range of social, economic and cultural rights, including the right to health, to an adequate standard of living, to education, and to social protection. It is often referred to as the “International Bill of Rights.” The United States has yet to accept the ICESCR despite the fact that is has been approved by 149 countries. No key human rights treaty has been ratified by the United States under the guidelines by which it was adopted and enforced by the UN General Assembly. http://www.feministcampus.org/fmla/printable-materials/global_project/ratify_factsheet.pdf if you take the time to read these documents, you would understand WHY we havent went there. the rights of the child, for example, is about taking away parental rights and giving control of them to the state. the various ways that they could declare a parent unfit would make everybody an " incompetent parent". The Convention on the Rights of the Child (CRC) Article 5 States Parties shall respect the responsibilities, rights and duties of parents or, where applicable, the members of the extended family or community as provided for by local custom, legal guardians or other persons legally responsible for the child, to provide, in a manner consistent with the evolving capacities of the child, appropriate direction and guidance in the exercise by the child of the rights recognized in the present Convention. Article 7 1. The child shall be registered immediately after birth and shall have the right from birth to a name, the right to acquire a nationality and. as far as possible, the right to know and be cared for by his or her parents. 2. States Parties shall ensure the implementation of these rights in accordance with their national law and their obligations under the relevant international instruments in this field, in particular where the child would otherwise be stateless. Article 9 1. States Parties shall ensure that a child shall not be separated from his or her parents against their will, except when competent authorities subject to judicial review determine, in accordance with applicable law and procedures, that such separation is necessary for the best interests of the child. Such determination may be necessary in a particular case such as one involving abuse or neglect of the child by the parents, or one where the parents are living separately and a decision must be made as to the child's place of residence. 2. In any proceedings pursuant to paragraph 1 of the present article, all interested parties shall be given an opportunity to participate in the proceedings and make their views known. 3. States Parties shall respect the right of the child who is separated from one or both parents to maintain personal relations and direct contact with both parents on a regular basis, except if it is contrary to the child's best interests. 4. Where such separation results from any action initiated by a State Party, such as the detention, imprisonment, exile, deportation or death (including death arising from any cause while the person is in the custody of the State) of one or both parents or of the child, that State Party shall, upon request, provide the parents, the child or, if appropriate, another member of the family with the essential information concerning the whereabouts of the absent member(s) of the family unless the provision of the information would be detrimental to the well-being of the child. States Parties shall further ensure that the submission of such a request shall of itself entail no adverse consequences for the person(s) concerned. (this is what happens currently in a divorce) Article 10 1. In accordance with the obligation of States Parties under article 9, paragraph 1, applications by a child or his or her parents to enter or leave a State Party for the purpose of family reunification shall be dealt with by States Parties in a positive, humane and expeditious manner. States Parties shall further ensure that the submission of such a request shall entail no adverse consequences for the applicants and for the members of their family. 2. A child whose parents reside in different States shall have the right to maintain on a regular basis, save in exceptional circumstances personal relations and direct contacts with both parents. Towards that end and in accordance with the obligation of States Parties under article 9, paragraph 1, States Parties shall respect the right of the child and his or her parents to leave any country, including their own, and to enter their own country. The right to leave any country shall be subject only to such restrictions as are prescribed by law and which are necessary to protect the national security, public order (ordre public), public health or morals or the rights and freedoms of others and are consistent with the other rights recognized in the present Convention. Article 16 1. No child shall be subjected to arbitrary or unlawful interference with his or her privacy, family, home or correspondence, nor to unlawful attacks on his or her honour and reputation. 2. The child has the right to the protection of the law against such interference or attacks. Article 18 1. States Parties shall use their best efforts to ensure recognition of the principle that both parents have common responsibilities for the upbringing and development of the child. Parents or, as the case may be, legal guardians, have the primary responsibility for the upbringing and development of the child. The best interests of the child will be their basic concern. 2. For the purpose of guaranteeing and promoting the rights set forth in the present Convention, States Parties shall render appropriate assistance to parents and legal guardians in the performance of their child-rearing responsibilities and shall ensure the development of institutions, facilities and services for the care of children. 3. States Parties shall take all appropriate measures to ensure that children of working parents have the right to benefit from child-care services and facilities for which they are eligible. Everything thus far protects parental rights. No where doers the State have the right to swoop in and take a child without just cause. Which is what is currently in effect either way with various Children's Protective Services.

northrn_yanke Joined Sun 01/13/08 Posts: 851	Tue 02/26/08 02:47 PM Edited by northrn_yanke on Tue 02/26/08 02:48 PM
This is surprising how? There are a few key UN Conventions that the US refuses to deal with. The Convention on the Elimination of All Forms of Discrimination Against Women (CEDAW) On December 18, 1979, the United Nations adopted CEDAW which is the most comprehensive and detailed international agreement which seeks the advancement of women. CEDAW has been ratified by 179 countries. The United States is the only industrialized country that has not ratified the treaty, putting us in the company of countries such as Sudan, Iran and Somalia. The Convention on the Rights of the Child (CRC) The CRC was adopted by the UN in 1989, and is one of the most widely received conventions. The CRC has been accepted by 192 countries. The U.S. may soon be the only country in the world not to ratify this convention. The Convention on the Prohibition, Use, Stockpiling, Production and Transfer of Anti-Personnel Mines and on Their Destruction (The Ottawa Treaty) Five years after the 1992 founding of the International Campaign to Ban Landmines, over 143 countries met in Ottawa, Canada and signed a ban on anti-personnel mines. The United States has still not signed the treaty. Kyoto Protocol In 1997, the Kyoto Protocol legally bound industrialized countries by 2010 to reduce their collective emissions of six greenhouse gases by 5.2% compared to 1990 levels. One hundred forty-one (141) countries have signed the treaty, but the United States ( the largest producer of greenhouse gases) has not. The International Criminal Court (ICC) As of March 2005, 139 countries had signed the ICC, including the United States, and 98 countries had ratified the ICC. However, on May 2, 2002 the United States stated that it did not intend to be bound by its signature to the ICC and that is has no intention to ratify it. President Clinton signed the ICC, and President Bush and the Republican-led Senate refuse to ratify it. The ICC conducts trials of individuals accused of genocide, war crimes and crimes against humanity when there is no other recourse for justice. The ICC identifies gender crimes and the crime of apartheid as crimes against humanity. Article 7 of the Statute presents clear language that defines rape, sexual slavery, enforced prostitution, forced pregnancy, enforced sterilization, or any other form of sexual violence of comparable gravity as gender crimes. The International Covenant on Economic, Social and Cultural Rights (ICESCR) The ICESCR requires states to promote and protect a wide range of social, economic and cultural rights, including the right to health, to an adequate standard of living, to education, and to social protection. It is often referred to as the “International Bill of Rights.” The United States has yet to accept the ICESCR despite the fact that is has been approved by 149 countries. No key human rights treaty has been ratified by the United States under the guidelines by which it was adopted and enforced by the UN General Assembly. http://www.feministcampus.org/fmla/printable-materials/global_project/ratify_factsheet.pdf that is terrible...so you not being in the US what have you done to force the US to comply. You realize that if you know all of these contraventions and you fail to take action then your as guilty as those your accusing....

karmafury Joined Sun 11/12/06 Posts: 10156	Tue 02/26/08 02:50 PM Edited by karmafury on Tue 02/26/08 02:52 PM
that is terrible...so you not being in the US what have you done to force the US to comply. You realize that if you know all of these contraventions and you fail to take action then your as guilty as those your accusing.... Canada has signed and ratified.

seaworthy1963 Joined Mon 08/14/06 Posts: 592	Tue 02/26/08 02:54 PM
Man, am I glad we have the armed forces to prevent this **** from being imposed on us.

northrn_yanke Joined Sun 01/13/08 Posts: 851	Tue 02/26/08 02:54 PM
that is terrible...so you not being in the US what have you done to force the US to comply. You realize that if you know all of these contraventions and you fail to take action then your as guilty as those your accusing.... Canada has signed and ratified. I wasn't talking about Canada...you were concerned about the US were you not?...so what have you done to force the US to comply?

northrn_yanke Joined Sun 01/13/08 Posts: 851	Tue 02/26/08 02:59 PM Edited by northrn_yanke on Tue 02/26/08 03:00 PM
Man, am I glad we have the armed forces to prevent this **** from being imposed on us. your exactly right on point...the Canadian liberal gov let the military suffer from budget cuts and the only reason they could do that in peaceful times is because the US was right there beside them. The top military quit when the dummy Prime Minister didn't listen to them when the UN was asking for troops. The top military told the PM they had 500 troops to offer but the next day the PM offers up 2000 troops. The top military brass all quit on the spot. They had to take men who had already done a full tour in Bosnia and put them in Afghanistan...the elite paratrooper Canadian force had to hitch a ride with the US hellies cause Canada didn't have anything to get them airborne.

karmafury Joined Sun 11/12/06 Posts: 10156	Tue 02/26/08 03:07 PM
that is terrible...so you not being in the US what have you done to force the US to comply. You realize that if you know all of these contraventions and you fail to take action then your as guilty as those your accusing.... Canada has signed and ratified. I wasn't talking about Canada...you were concerned about the US were you not?...so what have you done to force the US to comply? I stated that I wasn't surprised with the OP. That the US had not signed / ratified other Conventions dealing with Human Rights.

karmafury Joined Sun 11/12/06 Posts: 10156	Tue 02/26/08 03:08 PM
{quote]if you take the time to read these documents, you would understand WHY we havent went there. the rights of the child, for example, is about taking away parental rights and giving control of them to the state. the various ways that they could declare a parent unfit would make everybody an " incompetent parent". Perhaps another reason for not signing is, Article 37 States Parties shall ensure that: (a) No child shall be subjected to torture or other cruel, inhuman or degrading treatment or punishment. Neither capital punishment nor life imprisonment without possibility of release shall be imposed for offences committed by persons below eighteen years of age; Jurisdiction....Juvenile........Juv. Offenders ................Offenders........Under Death ................Executed..........Sentence Texas.............13...............28 Virginia...........3............... 1 Oklahoma...........2............... 0 Louisiana..........1............... 5 Georgia............1............... 2 South Carolina.....1............... 3 Missouri...........1............... 0 Alabama............0...............14 Arizona............0................4 Mississippi........0................5 North Carolina.....0................5 Florida............0................3 Pennsylvania.......0................2

northrn_yanke Joined Sun 01/13/08 Posts: 851	Tue 02/26/08 03:09 PM
I stated that I wasn't surprised with the OP. That the US had not signed / ratified other Conventions dealing with Human Rights. but you don't feel it is necessary to force the US to comply?..if not then why did you bother posting it?

karmafury Joined Sun 11/12/06 Posts: 10156	Tue 02/26/08 03:12 PM
I stated that I wasn't surprised with the OP. That the US had not signed / ratified other Conventions dealing with Human Rights. but you don't feel it is necessary to force the US to comply?..if not then why did you bother posting it? Because it takes the American people to wake up their government. Most probably don't even know that Conventions aren't signed / ratified. the elite paratrooper Canadian force had to hitch a ride with the US hellies cause Canada didn't have anything to get them airborne. What elite paratrooper force would that be?

northrn_yanke Joined Sun 01/13/08 Posts: 851	Tue 02/26/08 03:35 PM
Because it takes the American people to wake up their government. Most probably don't even know that Conventions aren't signed / ratified. oh so the American people need you to wake them up and educate them....somewhat arrogant don't you think.... What elite paratrooper force would that be? I'm not sure what force thy would be but it was a funny incident near the start of the Afghanistan war when the Canadians had nothing to get them airborn and they had to get a lift on a US helicopter. I thought you would have been aware of that being Canadian. You do realize that Canada has very little in transportation and relies on the US almost exclusively to transport troops and equipment around the world..

madisonman Joined Sun 12/23/07 Posts: 4573	Tue 02/26/08 04:21 PM
we broke another treaty? I thought we were the pillar of piety?