Topic: "Freedom is never more than one generation away from extinct
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Tue 02/26/08 02:03 PM
Show me da money lady!!! Show me da trufe, that you see...show me, with evidential proof of what you say.....

Where was this mass genocide???

I know way more about the Stolen generation than you know about soap...

Care to show me yours????

Oh and the far nastier part of my history???

Would that have been in recent history, when a boatload of illegal refugees were turned back, by a navy vessel when it was under thread of sinking, with women and children aboard???

Go on, tell me it is.... please?bigsmile


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Tue 02/26/08 02:06 PM
Leahmarie:

The Aftermath of Native American Genocide and the Legacy it Has Left Behind:

http://www.scribd.com/doc/94331/The-Aftermath-of-Native-American-Genocide-and-the-Legacy-it-Has-Left-Behind


Assimilating the Natives in the U.S. and Australia

http://www.kooriweb.org/gst/genocide/essay_15.html




And yes just as guilty in Canada with the Residential Schools.

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Tue 02/26/08 02:10 PM


Karmafury:
The Spaniards that came to this country all but wiped out the indiginous population, much like they did in Mexico and the rest of Latin America. It is a bloody and shameful history that only now is getting attention.

The indigenious people were not welcoming and resisted being colonized (since they were literally worked to death in the gold and silver mines) and baptized. But little could they do against the weapons and diseases that the Spaniards brought with them.

The name used here is "negro" when talking about the "lower classes".


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symbelyne.......

You said that the term "negro" refers to the "lower classes." I thought that "negro" refers to people who have a high melanen content in their skin, that is dark skinned people, those of African ethnic origin.

I also thought the term "lower classes" incorporates references to education, to occupation, to culture, and to income.

In Mexico the Spaniards wiped out the Aztek (? spell) Indians and in the USA, the colonists wiped out the Indians although political correctness has turned them from Indians into Native Americans.

Do you mean that "negro" refers to "lower classes" in your country? Or, is that termonology that goes way back before our time?


we use negro as a generic term that includes race, ethnicity and
class....its also used as a term of endearment...so go figure??

Jess642's photo
Tue 02/26/08 02:15 PM

what I'm wondering about is who the native people stole the land from....noway


Just to answer your query there Northern Yanke....here in AUstralia, the Indigenous Australians are the original inhabitants, they have 40 000 plus years of history here...and are the purest race of original man...bigsmile

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Tue 02/26/08 10:19 PM



Karmafury:
The Spaniards that came to this country all but wiped out the indiginous population, much like they did in Mexico and the rest of Latin America. It is a bloody and shameful history that only now is getting attention.

The indigenious people were not welcoming and resisted being colonized (since they were literally worked to death in the gold and silver mines) and baptized. But little could they do against the weapons and diseases that the Spaniards brought with them.



Thank you ......

The name used here is "negro" when talking about the "lower classes".


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symbelyne.......

You said that the term "negro" refers to the "lower classes." I thought that "negro" refers to people who have a high melanen content in their skin, that is dark skinned people, those of African ethnic origin.

I also thought the term "lower classes" incorporates references to education, to occupation, to culture, and to income.

In Mexico the Spaniards wiped out the Aztek (? spell) Indians and in the USA, the colonists wiped out the Indians although political correctness has turned them from Indians into Native Americans.

Do you mean that "negro" refers to "lower classes" in your country? Or, is that termonology that goes way back before our time?


we use negro as a generic term that includes race, ethnicity and
class....its also used as a term of endearment...so go figure??

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Tue 02/26/08 10:27 PM

Show me da money lady!!! Show me da trufe, that you see...show me, with evidential proof of what you say.....

Where was this mass genocide???

I know way more about the Stolen generation than you know about soap...

Care to show me yours????

Oh and the far nastier part of my history???

Would that have been in recent history, when a boatload of illegal refugees were turned back, by a navy vessel when it was under thread of sinking, with women and children aboard???

Go on, tell me it is.... please?bigsmile





Jesse...... The first words you utter above are show [you] the money. Okay, here it is. The average income of a worker in the United States is $46,000, which ranks us 9th in the world. The average income in Australia is $37,500, which ranks you 23rd in the world. For Argentine the average income of a worker is $13,000, which ranks Argentina 82nd in the world.

https://www.cia.gov/library/publications/the-world-factbook/rankorder/2004rank.html

9 United States $ 46,000

23 Australia $ 37,500

82 Argentina $ 13,000








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Wed 02/27/08 04:04 AM
Edited by Jess642 on Wed 02/27/08 04:19 AM
There's that search anywhere on the net and get any figures you want... try this site Leahmarie, and others interested in the average Australian wage... for last year.... not back in 1953, or thereabouts, like leah marie has pulled up...

This is the Government Bureau of Statistics site for Australia, they may have more of a clue...:wink:

oh, and by the way... the average WEEKLY wage for an Australian is around $1 112.70...I am sure that's around $56 000 per annum, we have 52 weeks in a year here, how many do you have?bigsmile

So does that mean, we earn more than you ? Us paltry descendants of thieves, rapists and murderers? Imagine that....bigsmile

http://www.abs.gov.au/AUSSTATS/abs@.nsf/
ProductsbyTopic/BA84BBB55B643021CA2568A90013934E?OpenDocument

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Wed 02/27/08 07:18 AM


Jesse...... The first words you utter above are show [you] the money. Okay, here it is. The average income of a worker in the United States is $46,000, which ranks us 9th in the world. The average income in Australia is $37,500, which ranks you 23rd in the world. For Argentine the average income of a worker is $13,000, which ranks Argentina 82nd in the world.

https://www.cia.gov/library/publications/the-world-factbook/rankorder/2004rank.html

9 United States $ 46,000

23 Australia $ 37,500

82 Argentina $ 13,000



I live in Argentina (for others who may not know) I live on $300 US dollars a month (roughly 950 pesos), I have a 2 bedroom home on 3 1/2 acres of land which I purchased for 20.000 US dollars, when I am old enough to collect Social Security (for which I worked 30 years and am entitled to receive) I may be lucky enough to collect about 300 a month, can you live on 300 dollars a month in the US???? It doesnt matter how much you earn, what matters is how much you need to live....

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Wed 02/27/08 07:19 AM
by the way Leah...nice to see you break out of the "blue box"
happy

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Wed 02/27/08 07:28 AM
A pissing contest over whose country is better? That's cool, but now you guys should argue over who has the better daddy.

Jess642's photo
Wed 02/27/08 02:40 PM

A pissing contest over whose country is better? That's cool, but now you guys should argue over who has the better daddy.



laugh laugh laugh laugh flowerforyou

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Thu 02/28/08 06:22 AM

by the way Leah...nice to see you break out of the "blue box"
happy



Thanks, but I am still in a "blue box," so to speak. This is my Haloween custome. I copied it from a computer game. I am an elf princess! Can you believe that, a five foot seven inch woman dressed up like an elf?!

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Thu 02/28/08 06:24 AM
stop...now you're putting ideas in my head..
devil
:wink:

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Thu 02/28/08 06:50 AM

stop...now you're putting ideas in my head..
devil
:wink:



You want to be an elf? laugh

Frankly, I like the mermaid better. I love mermaids so much my son bought me a beautiful collectible pewter mermaid.

Whoops! Got to go. Traffic is finally moving. I was caught behind a traffic accident. No one seems to be hurt, other than minor injuries, but what a mess all over the road .... three cars involved.

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Thu 02/28/08 06:56 AM
Edited by armydoc4u on Thu 02/28/08 07:09 AM



November 28, 2007 12:00am

AUSTRALIA is the third-most desirable country in which to live according to an annual United Nations report that looks at wealth, life expectancy and educational levels.

Australia came in behind top ranking Iceland, and Norway in second spot.

The top three nations have not changed since last year's report, when Australia was again in third, but Norway was on top and Iceland second.

AIDS-afflicted sub-Saharan African states occupied the lowest rankings of the UN Human Development Index, which assesses 177 countries and territories on the three key indicators.

As expected, rich free-market countries dominate the top places.

Behind Iceland, Norway and Australia come Canada and Ireland. But the United States has slipped to 12th place, from eighth last year.


http://www.news.com.au/dailytelegraph/story/0,22049,22833504-5013605,00.html


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kermafury.......

So Australia is the third ranked country in which to live. Your survey doesn't mean squat. I found one in which your country wasn't even listed.

Ireland was listed as the most desirable country in which to live, followed by Switzerland, Norway and Luxembourg.

I found another survey, which listed different countries other than the above in various rankings. Considering your report and mine, this tells me that if I kept searching I could probably find one that would show the USA in the top three. In other words, these surveys don't mean a darn thing.




Here's the 2007 / 2008 United Nations Human Development Report taken from United Nations page: http://hdr.undp.org/en/statistics/


2007/2008 Human Development Index rankings
High Human Development

1. Iceland
2. Norway
3. Australia
4. Canada
5. Ireland
6. Sweden
7. Switzerland
8. Japan
9. Netherlands
10. France
11. Finland
12. United States
13. Spain
14. Denmark
15. Austria
16. United Kingdom
17. Belgium
18. Luxembourg
19. New Zealand
20. Italy
21. Hong Kong, China (SAR)
22. Germany
23. Israel
24. Greece
25. Singapore
26. Korea, Rep. of
27. Slovenia
28. Cyprus
29. Portugal
30. Brunei Darussalam
31. Barbados
32. Czech Republic
33. Kuwait
34. Malta
35. Qatar
36. Hungary
37. Poland
38. Argentina
39. United Arab Emirates
40. Chile
41. Bahrain
42. Slovakia
43. Lithuania
44. Estonia
45. Latvia
46. Uruguay
47. Croatia
48. Costa Rica
49. Bahamas
50. Seychelles
51. Cuba
52. Mexico
53. Bulgaria
54. Saint Kitts and Nevis
55. Tonga
56. Libyan Arab Jamahiriya
57. Antigua and Barbuda
58. Oman
59. Trinidad and Tobago
60. Romania
61. Saudi Arabia
62. Panama
63. Malaysia
64. Belarus
65. Mauritius
66. Bosnia and Herzegovina
67. Russian Federation
68. Albania
69. Macedonia, TFYR
70. Brazil


Medium Human Development

71. Dominica
72. Saint Lucia
73. Kazakhstan
74. Venezuela, Rep. Bov.
75. Colombia
76. Ukraine
77. Samoa
78. Thailand
79. Dominican Republic
80. Belize
81. China
82. Grenada
83. Armenia
84. Turkey
85. Suriname
86. Jordan
87. Peru
88. Lebanon
89. Ecuador
90. Philippines
91. Tunisia
92. Saint Vincent and the Grenadines
93. Fiji
94. Iran, Islamic Rep. of
95. Paraguay
96. Georgia
97. Guyana
98. Azerbaijan
99. Sri Lanka
100. Maldives
101. Jamaica
102. Cape Verde
103. El Salvador
104. Algeria
105. Viet Nam
106. Occupied Palestinian Territories
107. Indonesia
108. Syrian Arab Republic
109. Turkmenistan
110. Nicaragua
111. Moldova
112. Egypt
113. Uzbekistan
114. Mongolia
115. Honduras
116. Kyrgyzstan
117. Bolivia
118. Guatemala
119. Gabon
120. Vanuatu
121. South Africa
122. Tajikistan
123. São Tomé and Principe
124. Botswana
125. Namibia
126. Morocco
127. Equatorial Guinea
128. India
129. Solomon Islands
130. Lao, People's Dem. Rep.
131. Cambodia
132. Myanmar
133. Bhutan
134. Comoros
135. Ghana
136. Pakistan
137. Mauritania
138. Lesotho
139. Congo
140. Bangladesh
141. Swaziland
142. Nepal
143. Madagascar
144. Cameroon
145. Papua New Guinea
146. Haiti
147. Sudan
148. Kenya
149. Djibouti
150. Timor-Leste
151. Zimbabwe
152. Togo
153. Yemen
154. Uganda
155. Gambia


Low Human Development

156. Senegal
157. Eritrea
158. Nigeria
159. Tanzania, U. Rep. of
160. Guinea
161. Rwanda
162. Angola
163. Benin
164. Malawi
165. Zambia
166. Côte d'Ivoire
167. Burundi
168. Congo, Dem. Rep.
169. Ethiopia
170. Chad
171. Central African Republic
172. Mozambique
173. Mali
174. Niger
175. Guinea-Bissau
176. Burkina Faso
177. Sierra Leone

FACT: Inequalities in ability to cope with climate change are emerging as an increasingly powerful driver of wider inequalities between and within countries.


theres no way kuwait is 33 beating out the bahamas at 49, have you ever been to that disgusting filth ridden place, just terrible.... and where the heck is Tahiti, thats my number one place, not norway ireland or whatever else you said. or is tahiti not a country, damn I shoud have paid attention in school!

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Thu 02/28/08 07:18 AM



Just to answer your query there Northern Yanke....here in AUstralia, the Indigenous Australians are the original inhabitants, they have 40 000 plus years of history here...and are the purest race of original man...bigsmile


Hummm....

"the purest race of original man?" Gee, now, if we go back to Adam and Eve, the original humans here on Earth according to the Bible (which stands the test of time and knowledge), and then the destroying of Earth by the flood, with only Noah and his family being chosen by God to survive, and the rest of the world descending from Noah's lineage, where do the Australians originate from? Did God have a special place on earth for them, separate and apart from the rest of mankind?

Or, if you believe in the theory of evolution, could you kindly provide documentation to prove Australians are the purest of original humans? Where did those original humans come from? Was there a mass explosion of atoms forming people? Some atoms being more pure than others?

As a matter of fact, if they are a race of original man, who are/were the "original man"? And, likewise, please provide documentation. This should be very interesting to read.

Lindyy
:heart: :heart:

armydoc4u's photo
Thu 02/28/08 07:28 AM
YEAH YEAH YEAH, ok?

what about Tahiti? right now Im devastated here!:cry: sad

Lindyy's photo
Thu 02/28/08 09:26 AM

YEAH YEAH YEAH, ok?

what about Tahiti? right now Im devastated here!:cry: sad


Lindyy says:

Doc, please don't cry. What does the UN know anyway?

Lindyy

armydoc4u's photo
Thu 02/28/08 09:31 AM
:wink: ok, thanks i'll compose myself:tongue:

seriously tho, 5000 dollars a nite at some of those places in tahiti, its a tiny little three(?) island country, lots of tourist and polinesian women, white beaches its got to be up there somewhere.glasses got my shades and im saving up.

karmafury's photo
Thu 02/28/08 09:39 AM
Tahiti is a territory of France. It is a part of French Polynesia.

http://www.mapsouthpacific.com/tahiti/index.html



"It was not, however, until after World War II, when Tahitians who had served France returned home, that pressure forced the French government to extend French citizenship to all islanders. The first territorial assembly was established in 1946, and by 1949 the islands obtained representation in the French Assembly."

http://gohawaii.about.com/cs/frenchpolynesia/a/fp_history.htm