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Topic: Pardoning yourself???? How did we miss this?
leahmarie Joined Fri 12/28/07 Posts: 1482	Mon 02/18/08 11:40 PM
does not lowering your standards to the methods of the terrorist not make you a terrorist as well just a thought adj4u..... do unto others as they do unto you.

adj4u Joined Sun 04/08/07 Posts: 21254	Mon 02/18/08 11:42 PM
hey i am just asking i do agree with that philosophy usually but there is also two wrongs do not make a right

gardenforge Joined Tue 01/16/07 Posts: 1322	Tue 02/19/08 12:11 AM
The original subject of this thread was not missed, unfortunately ya all must have a very short memory this same thread was posted about a month or two ago SSDD

madisonman Joined Sun 12/23/07 Posts: 4573	Tue 02/19/08 01:24 AM
its a nice indicator how far above the law bush thinks he is, why my goodness if I broke the law I will just write a new law that pardonsme..wtf......and what is with all hthis dribble about clinton and all the other stuff?this topic is about Bush parodneing himself it isnt about what clinton did or nixon or any other past criminal and chief but no one ever passed a law to pardon themselve, not even Nixon. wake up america this is a bannana republic madman...... Where are your facts? Banana Republic ..... I have read a number of threads initiated by you and the so-called facts that you post in those threads make out as if our country is a banana republic. Incidentally, I cut/pasted part of your second post wherein you state "........ no wonder the world hates america so bad....." I want to explain why part of that is happening. We are on a site that is international. There are people not only from the United States on this Dating Site who participate in these political forums, but also people from Europe and South America and elsewhere. Part of the reason we are hated is because of people such as yourself. Your threads bash Bush and America and do not offer solutions or alternatives. You encourage posters to vent anti-Americanism and hatred towards our country and at our president. The above type of threads you post give those who are not American citizens a bad perspective of our country. Furthermore, you post items from websites without checking out the facts, and I have found that most of the time the stuff you post is wrong. So, if you want people to stop hating our country, be part of the solution and not the problem by posting threads that offer hope and solutions as to what is wrong in our country. I would think that if you find a fact that isworng you would point it out and not bring it up a this late date, talk about the pot calling the kettle black

leahmarie Joined Fri 12/28/07 Posts: 1482	Tue 02/19/08 02:54 AM Edited by leahmarie on Tue 02/19/08 03:13 AM
its a nice indicator how far above the law bush thinks he is, why my goodness if I broke the law I will just write a new law that pardonsme..wtf......and what is with all hthis dribble about clinton and all the other stuff?this topic is about Bush parodneing himself it isnt about what clinton did or nixon or any other past criminal and chief but no one ever passed a law to pardon themselve, not even Nixon. wake up america this is a bannana republic madman...... Where are your facts? Banana Republic ..... I have read a number of threads initiated by you and the so-called facts that you post in those threads make out as if our country is a banana republic. Incidentally, I cut/pasted part of your second post wherein you state "........ no wonder the world hates america so bad....." I want to explain why part of that is happening. We are on a site that is international. There are people not only from the United States on this Dating Site who participate in these political forums, but also people from Europe and South America and elsewhere. Part of the reason we are hated is because of people such as yourself. Your threads bash Bush and America and do not offer solutions or alternatives. You encourage posters to vent anti-Americanism and hatred towards our country and at our president. The above type of threads you post give those who are not American citizens a bad perspective of our country. Furthermore, you post items from websites without checking out the facts, and I have found that most of the time the stuff you post is wrong. So, if you want people to stop hating our country, be part of the solution and not the problem by posting threads that offer hope and solutions as to what is wrong in our country. I would think that if you find a fact that isworng you would point it out and not bring it up a this late date, talk about the pot calling the kettle black MADMAN......First you are using the analogy about the "pot calling the kettle black" in a context that doesn't make sense. Second, I have been on threads you initiated and pointed out that the material you have plagerized from who-knows-what website was incorrect. You have never responded to me. You do one of two things. You get Dragoness to post a back-biting answer that is usually full of foul curse words, such as she has used on this thread, or you ignore me since, of course, there is no defense for initiating factless plagerized posts. Third, how about addressing the points I have made instead of trying to hijack the issue by throwing in a proverb that is not applicable to what I posted?

symbelmyne Joined Mon 01/14/08 Posts: 5356	Tue 02/19/08 05:54 AM
does not lowering your standards to the methods of the terrorist not make you a terrorist as well just a thought adj4u..... do unto others as they do unto you. hmmmm, what about turning the other cheek? Or is that something done only when its conveniant? hmmm, typical.

leahmarie Joined Fri 12/28/07 Posts: 1482	Tue 02/19/08 07:30 AM
does not lowering your standards to the methods of the terrorist not make you a terrorist as well just a thought adj4u..... do unto others as they do unto you. hmmmm, what about turning the other cheek? Or is that something done only when its conveniant? hmmm, typical. symbelnyne........ Okay I get where you are coming from. Americans must accept terrorist nations torturing our soldiers, but we should turn the other cheek.

karmafury Joined Sun 11/12/06 Posts: 10156	Tue 02/19/08 07:33 AM
does not lowering your standards to the methods of the terrorist not make you a terrorist as well just a thought adj4u..... do unto others as they do unto you. hmmmm, what about turning the other cheek? Or is that something done only when its conveniant? hmmm, typical. symbelnyne........ Okay I get where you are coming from. Americans must accept terrorist nations torturing our soldiers, but we should turn the other cheek. Terrorists as the name implies use terror, follow no laws of any nation. The United States as a nation follows International Law and its own Constitution both of which make torture illegal.

leahmarie Joined Fri 12/28/07 Posts: 1482	Tue 02/19/08 07:39 AM
does not lowering your standards to the methods of the terrorist not make you a terrorist as well just a thought adj4u..... do unto others as they do unto you. hmmmm, what about turning the other cheek? Or is that something done only when its conveniant? hmmm, typical. symbelnyne........ Okay I get where you are coming from. Americans must accept terrorist nations torturing our soldiers, but we should turn the other cheek. Terrorists as the name implies use terror, follow no laws of any nation. The United States as a nation follows International Law and its own Constitution both of which make torture illegal. I understand that, but I am not talking about illegal/legal, I am referring to my personal beliefs.

adj4u Joined Sun 04/08/07 Posts: 21254	Tue 02/19/08 07:41 AM
http://blogcritics.org/archives/2006/09/28/180806.php Urgent Legislation (H.R.6054) Contains Hidden Retroactive Presidential War Crimes Pardon. ................................. bill site http://www.govtrack.us/congress/bill.xpd?bill=h109-6054 This bill never became law. This bill was proposed in a previous session of Congress. Sessions of Congress last two years, and at the end of each session all proposed bills and resolutions that haven't passed are cleared from the books.

wiley Joined Thu 12/13/07 Posts: 19738	Tue 02/19/08 08:20 AM
did you not see the bill did not pass there was no pardon sites are listed above They don't care. It doesn't help to further their argument.

adj4u Joined Sun 04/08/07 Posts: 21254	Tue 02/19/08 08:32 AM
i hear that i guess that is called smear campaign tactics by the supporter of the ""others"" thus it can not be attributed to any political party

Spidercmb Joined Fri 04/27/07 Posts: 13137	Tue 02/19/08 08:56 AM
does not lowering your standards to the methods of the terrorist not make you a terrorist as well just a thought adj4u..... do unto others as they do unto you. hmmmm, what about turning the other cheek? Or is that something done only when its conveniant? hmmm, typical. Turn the other cheek must be read in context. To take it out of context makes it immoral. The guilty should be punished, that is made clear by the Old and New Testaments.

adj4u Joined Sun 04/08/07 Posts: 21254	Tue 02/19/08 09:00 AM
does not lowering your standards to the methods of the terrorist not make you a terrorist as well just a thought adj4u..... do unto others as they do unto you. hmmmm, what about turning the other cheek? Or is that something done only when its conveniant? hmmm, typical. Turn the other cheek must be read in context. To take it out of context makes it immoral. The guilty should be punished, that is made clear by the Old and New Testaments. what about two wrongs do not make a right to lower to the methods of the terrorist makes one a terrorist

Dragoness Joined Wed 10/17/07 Posts: 23320	Tue 02/19/08 09:35 AM
its a nice indicator how far above the law bush thinks he is, why my goodness if I broke the law I will just write a new law that pardonsme..wtf......and what is with all hthis dribble about clinton and all the other stuff?this topic is about Bush parodneing himself it isnt about what clinton did or nixon or any other past criminal and chief but no one ever passed a law to pardon themselve, not even Nixon. wake up america this is a bannana republic madman...... Where are your facts? Banana Republic ..... I have read a number of threads initiated by you and the so-called facts that you post in those threads make out as if our country is a banana republic. Incidentally, I cut/pasted part of your second post wherein you state "........ no wonder the world hates america so bad....." I want to explain why part of that is happening. We are on a site that is international. There are people not only from the United States on this Dating Site who participate in these political forums, but also people from Europe and South America and elsewhere. Part of the reason we are hated is because of people such as yourself. Your threads bash Bush and America and do not offer solutions or alternatives. You encourage posters to vent anti-Americanism and hatred towards our country and at our president. The above type of threads you post give those who are not American citizens a bad perspective of our country. Furthermore, you post items from websites without checking out the facts, and I have found that most of the time the stuff you post is wrong. So, if you want people to stop hating our country, be part of the solution and not the problem by posting threads that offer hope and solutions as to what is wrong in our country. I would think that if you find a fact that isworng you would point it out and not bring it up a this late date, talk about the pot calling the kettle black MADMAN......First you are using the analogy about the "pot calling the kettle black" in a context that doesn't make sense. Second, I have been on threads you initiated and pointed out that the material you have plagerized from who-knows-what website was incorrect. You have never responded to me. You do one of two things. You get Dragoness to post a back-biting answer that is usually full of foul curse words, such as she has used on this thread, or you ignore me since, of course, there is no defense for initiating factless plagerized posts. Third, how about addressing the points I have made instead of trying to hijack the issue by throwing in a proverb that is not applicable to what I posted? Noone "gets" me to do anything. I do what I want. The posts I post are my true beliefs and understandings of situations, sorry, if for one you consider them "back biting" and two if I use a curse word once in a while, that is not foul mouthed. I will continue to post how I feel you continue to post how you feel, if we cross hairs we cross hairs, that will just be. Back to point, I CAN NOT BELIEVE HE PARDONED HIMSELF FOR CRIMES HE KNEW HE COMMITTED, UNBELIEVABLE!!!!!!!! Oh I forgot my cuss word this time, well I will make it up later...lol

adj4u Joined Sun 04/08/07 Posts: 21254	Tue 02/19/08 09:41 AM
he may have tried to pardon himself but the bill DID NOT PASS

Dragoness Joined Wed 10/17/07 Posts: 23320	Tue 02/19/08 09:56 AM Edited by Dragoness on Tue 02/19/08 10:00 AM
http://blogcritics.org/archives/2006/09/28/180806.php Urgent Legislation (H.R.6054) Contains Hidden Retroactive Presidential War Crimes Pardon. ................................. bill site http://www.govtrack.us/congress/bill.xpd?bill=h109-6054 This bill never became law. This bill was proposed in a previous session of Congress. Sessions of Congress last two years, and at the end of each session all proposed bills and resolutions that haven't passed are cleared from the books. ADJ Thank you for this link, I was looking for the followup information yesterday and could not find it. I am so glad it did not pass but now how do I feel about HIM attempting pardoning HIMSELF for crimes he supposedly never did???? That is still pompous and above the law attitude, don't ya think???\ He actually tried to pardon himself this is still unbelievable!!!!

Dragoness Joined Wed 10/17/07 Posts: 23320	Tue 02/19/08 09:59 AM
does not lowering your standards to the methods of the terrorist not make you a terrorist as well just a thought adj4u..... do unto others as they do unto you. hmmmm, what about turning the other cheek? Or is that something done only when its conveniant? hmmm, typical. symbelnyne........ Okay I get where you are coming from. Americans must accept terrorist nations torturing our soldiers, but we should turn the other cheek. Terrorists as the name implies use terror, follow no laws of any nation. The United States as a nation follows International Law and its own Constitution both of which make torture illegal. We can exercise laws without becoming terrorists ourselves and we can wage a war on terror without illegally entering a country that DID NOT DO 9/11!!!!!!!!!!!

Dragoness Joined Wed 10/17/07 Posts: 23320	Tue 02/19/08 10:03 AM
he may have tried to pardon himself but the bill DID NOT PASS THIS IS TRUE, HE ATTEMPED AND IT DID NOT PASS BECAUSE CONGRESS CLOSED SESSSION BEFORE SO CONSIDER THIS AN UPDATE TO THE INFORMATION EVERYONE. BUSH ATTEMPTED TO PARDON HIMSELF FOR WAR CRIMES.

Dragoness Joined Wed 10/17/07 Posts: 23320	Tue 02/19/08 10:05 AM
did you not see the bill did not pass there was no pardon sites are listed above They don't care. It doesn't help to further their argument. This is not true I do care, but it really doesn't change the fact that he tried to pardon himself for war crimes. Just attempting to do it means he knows he is in trouble.