Yeah, the government knew too. You don't recall the USA going after the terrorists and bombing the caves in Afghanistan after 9/11 trying to get Bin Laden et al? While we were in Afghanistan, we freed the people and whipped a little old fashioned "democracy" on the country, freeing the people of the "laws" imposed on them by Bin Laden and friends. It was all for their good and the country is better off than it was. Women can uncover their faces and go to school again among other freedoms. Then we should have left the middle east, even though we never did find Bin Laden himself, the slippery devil!! We did put Al Queida(sp?) on the run. Last I heard they were reorganizing in Pakistan. I guess you were drinking through all that?? I was too, but, I remember it on the news. Google Afghanistan

Rise and Fall of the Taliban
The Taliban had risen to power in the mid 90's in reaction to the anarchy and warlordism that arose after the withdrawal of Soviet forces. Many Taliban had been educated in madrassas in Pakistan and were largely from rural southern Pashtun backgrounds. In 1994, the Taliban developed enough strength to capture the city of Kandahar from a local warlord and proceeded to expand its control throughout Afghanistan, occupying Kabul in September 1996. By the end of 1998, the Taliban occupied about 90% of the country, limiting the opposition largely to a small mostly Tajik corner in the northeast and the Panjshir valley.

The Taliban sought to impose an extreme interpretation of Islam--based upon the rural Pashtun tribal code--on the entire country and committed massive human rights violations, particularly directed against women and girls. The Taliban also committed serious atrocities against minority populations, particularly the Shi'a Hazara ethnic group, and killed noncombatants in several well-documented instances. In 2001, as part of a drive against relics of Afghanistan's pre-Islamic past, the Taliban destroyed two huge Buddha statues carved into a cliff face outside of the city of Bamiyan.

From the mid-1990s the Taliban provided sanctuary to Osama bin Laden, a Saudi national who had fought with the mujahideen resistance against the Soviets, and provided a base for his and other terrorist organizations. Bin Laden provided both financial and political support to the Taliban. Bin Laden and his Al-Qaida group were charged with the bombing of the U.S. Embassies in Nairobi and Dar Es Salaam in 1998, and in August 1998 the United States launched a cruise missile attack against bin Laden's terrorist camp in southeastern Afghanistan. Bin Laden and Al-Qaida have acknowledged their responsibility for the September 11, 2001 terrorist attacks against the United States.

Following the Taliban's repeated refusal to expel bin Laden and his group and end its support for international terrorism, the U.S. and its partners in the anti-terrorist coalition began a military campaign on October 7, 2001, targeting terrorist facilities and various Taliban military and political assets within Afghanistan. Under pressure from U.S. military and anti-Taliban forces, the Taliban disintegrated rapidly, and Kabul fell on November 13, 2001.

Afghan factions opposed to the Taliban met at a United Nations-sponsored conference in Bonn, Germany in December 2001 and agreed to restore stability and governance to Afghanistan--creating an interim government and establishing a process to move toward a permanent government. Under the "Bonn Agreement," an Afghan Interim Authority was formed and took office in Kabul on December 22, 2001 with Hamid Karzai as Chairman. The Interim Authority held power for approximately 6 months while preparing for a nationwide "Loya Jirga" (Grand Council) in mid-June 2002 that decided on the structure of a Transitional Authority. The Transitional Authority, headed by President Hamid Karzai, renamed the government as the Transitional Islamic State of Afghanistan (TISA). One of the TISA's primary achievements was the drafting of a constitution that was ratified by a Constitutional Loya Jirga on January 4, 2004.

GOVERNMENT AND POLITICAL CONDITIONS
On October 9, 2004, Afghanistan held its first national democratic presidential election. More than 8 million Afghans voted, 41% of whom were women. Hamid Karzai was announced as the official winner on November 3 and inaugurated on December 7 for a five-year term as Afghanistan's first democratically elected president. On December 23, 2004, President Karzai announced new cabinet
*From Bureau of South and Central Asian Affairs 12/2007**

So you also heard all these things about Bush...you say you never verified that those things were true about Clinton, or Ted Kennedy, did you verify that everything you have heard about Bush is true?

jeeze, that's like when the generals pardoned themselves here after their dirty war and 30 years of torture, murder and disapearances....power..all for the lust of power.

I verify almost everything I speak up on and I verified this thread before posting it so I know this is valid.

verification henley says it best





The Garden of Allah Lyrics
Artist(Band):Don Henley

It was a pretty big year for fashion
A lousy year for rock and roll
The people gave their blessing to crimes of passion
It was a dark, dark night of the collective soul
I was somewhere out on Riverside
By the El Royale Hotel
When a stranger appeared in a cloud of smoke
I thought I knew him all too well

He said, "Now that I have your attention
I got somethin' I wanna say
You may not wanna hear it
I'm gonna tell it to you anyway
You know, I've always liked you, boy
'Cause you were not afraid of me
But things are gonna get mighty rough
Here in Gomorrah-By-The-Sea"

He said, "It's just like home
It's so damned hot, I can't stand it
My fine seersucker suit is all soakin' wet"

And the hills are burning
The wind is raging
And the clock strikes midnight
In the Garden of Allah

"Nice car.........
I love those Bavarians.....so meticulous
Y'know, I remember a time when things were a lot more fun around here
When good was good and evil was evil
Before things got so.......fuzzy
Yeah, I was once a golden boy like you
And I was summoned to the halls of power in the heavenly court
And I dined with the deities who looked upon me with favor
For my talents; my creativity
We sat beneath the palms in the warm afternoon
And drank the wine with Fitzgerald and Huxley

They pawned a biting phrase
From tongues hot with blood
And drained their pens of bitter ink
Vainly reaching for the bottle full of empty Edens
Branded specially for the ones
Who had come with great expectations
To the perfumed halls of Allah
For their time in the sun

We were stokin' the fires
And oilin' up the machinery
Until the gods found out we had ideas of our own"

And the war was coming
The earth was shaking
And there was no more room
In the Garden of Allah

"Today I made and appearance downtown
I am an expert witness, because I say I am
And I said, 'Gentleman....and I use that word loosely...I will testify for you
I'm a gun for hire, I'm a saint, I'm a liar
Because there are no facts,there is no truth,just data to be manipulated
I can get you any result you like....what's it worth to ya?
Because there is no wrong, there is no right
And I sleep very well at night
No shame, no solution
No remorse, no retribution
Just people selling t-shirts
just opportunity to participate in this pathetic little circus
And winning, winning, winning' "

It was a pretty big year for predators
The marketplace was on a roll
And the land of opportunity
Spawned a whole new breed of men without souls
This year, notoriety got all confused with fame
And the devil is downhearted
Because there's nothing left for him to claim

He said, "It's just like home
It's so low-down, I can't stand it
I guess my work around here has all been done

And the fruit is rotten
The serpent's eyes shine
As he wraps around the vine
In the Garden of Allah
in the Garden of Allah
in the Garden of Allah

Yeah right

insert the sitting around watching the comedy routine emoticon here

adj are you hanging around here? Oh yea you posted about moving on but you know what, I cannot move forward with the devil at the helm, I have a problem with that. at least a lower demon would be more almost stomachable..

not fair she didnt swallow so it doesn't count !!

does that go with Clintons claim that he smoked pot once, but, he never inhaled?

Ever had a contact buzz??

its a nice indicator how far above the law bush thinks he is, why my goodness if I broke the law I will just write a new law that pardonsme..wtf......and what is with all hthis dribble about clinton and all the other stuff?this topic is about Bush parodneing himself it isnt about what clinton did or nixon or any other past criminal and chief but no one ever passed a law to pardon themselve, not even Nixon. wake up america this is a bannana republic

sure looks like a bannana republic from where I stand....

Madison of course he does. He thought we should attack Saddam and Iraq for 9/11 and he got his way, He SAYS TO US that he cares not if we like what he does and he got his way, He has pretty much been able to tear this country at it core and he gets away with it, so of course HE WILL WRITE A LAW THAT PARDONS HIM FROM WAR CRIMES AS HE KNOWS HE IS GOING TO BE CHARGED WITH THEM

Which part are you referring to?

so much for the respect for the rule of law.no wonder the world hates america so bad . mass hypocracy . it sickens me that those who call themselves patriots can defend all these criminal acts. Its no wonder they are building a police state for when the rest of america wakes up they are going to be royaly pissed off

Oh Yes, I heard that Vince Foster committed suicide: he shot himself twice in the base of the skull.They say no foul play occurred .

Bush is one of the better presidents EVER.
At least he does not let people sway his decision, and he doesn't let people push him around.
Here's to you G.W. Bush


It sounds more like an ego leading rather than good decision making. I remember a game from childhood called "King of Hill" and it reminds me of Bush's attitude.

king of the hill is not that a cartoon for adult veiwing

i find it funny some of the battles that people want to fight when they have no control over

why not instead of falling for the distractions fight the real battles