the idea that anyone and their opinion should be more relevant

as to how they choose to live their life

and raise their children when it is in the constitution

it is totally an infringement of their rights

------------------

then maybe kids should be locked in their room and play with their toys and not be prepared for the world they live in

-------------------

oh wait pull all the electrical outlets out of your house
children should not have to worry about being electricuted
when they stick one of their toys in the slot of the outlet

-------------------

after all you can not teach them do not do that

just like you can not teach them

THIS IS NOT A TOY DO NOT PLAY WITH IT

Glock basics 101" at the tender age of four no

should be at least 8 but that is only my opinion

if someone wants to start at two that is THEIR RIGHT

Huh? I must have overlooked the part of the Constitution that covers parental rights...

And the one that says that you have the right to put others in imminent danger.

How completely thoughtless of me!

yeah a lot of things

i do have to say knowlage is never a bad thing, but instead of leaving the responsibility with schools it should be the parents that teach them this like gun safety.

i would agree with that

but for one thing

some think that it is more important that

children be left to play with barbies and such

and remain a child as long as possible

(not that teaching gun safety lessons their childhood)

and do not take the responsibility to teach them such things

besides if the parent is antigun

they may not know how to teach them gun safety

and just because they have no gun in their home

does not mean when they go to a friends house

that there will not be a gun there

after all if they can teach sex and hand out condoms

what is the issue with teaching them how to

NOT HANDLE A GUN

--------

just a thought

but hey what do i know

---------

(now i know some one will pull a line or to out of this
and quote it and turn it around to be totally out of context
but hey if that is how they roll i hope others see them for what they are)

yeah i agree. The goal of parents should be to raise their children. Let them play with other children but keep them well informed about the life around them. Teach them there is a time to play and a time not to. Sooner or later that child will be exposed to the cold hearted realities of life around him/her. And btw as far as the sex ed thing....i think a lot of people are starting to push for an abstinence only education (which i think is retarded). But once again, i've seen different parts of the world and therefore have my own understanding of human(animal) nature. And i for one have not had a child of my own. But i was always taught that knowledge is a good thing.

Knowledge is wonderful, I am not arguing with that. If people want to teach their children all about guns and gun safety when the children are little...kudos to them. I am just saying that the nation as a whole does not do that. It's a "woulda, coulda, shoulda" situation. Yes, we as Americans have rights and that is wonderful also. No disputing that fact either. I just think that despite people's rights to own firearms and the desire to teach children not to touch guns...there are way too many innocent little kids and also teenagers getting killed by guns in the household that are not secured properly. That's all. I once went to a Million Moms March in the 90's even though I am not an activist or anything. Someone had just told me about it and it sounded very interesting. I took my eight month old son and we had a great time. Seeing all of those other mothers and other caregivers sharing their stories and talking about gun safety really must have hit home. What other parents do with guns in their homes is their business, yes, but I just hate to see kids die for no reason.

Out of context you say? No..I'm afraid it isn't.
It is a very appropriate point.

I'm interested to know where in the Constitution it says my rights are more important then yours, or vice versa.

Where does it say that your right to bear arms supersedes my right to feel safe from your arms?

Sure.. there are parts in the Amendments and Supreme Court decisions on the subject...that speak to the right of parents to parent... Id check out 'due process' for instance...

My claiming there is nothing in the Constitution itself that mentions this? Is very apropos.

where in the constitution does it say anything about

anything about your right to feel safe about the fact another

has a right to bear arms

yes this is a ggod post

and if those kids would have been taught gun safety

maybe they would not have so many incidents

that cause so many tragedies

here let me help it has been a bit since i asked

the constitution does have this provision

that grants you the right to feel safe

from those that do have guns

and here it is


















Amendment II

A well regulated militia, being necessary to the security of a free state, the right of the people to keep and bear arms, shall not be infringed.

interesting

things that make you go hhhhhmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm

i guess i killed it

and I like to point out you did it without firing a shot..

well ididn't want to go to me storage facility for a gun

A well regulated militia?
Is your definition of a well regulated militia: Anyone of 8 + years of age who has access to a gun?

Is your definition of 'right': Something inalienable... and legally abridges every one else's right to life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness?
There are many of us here, who feel that living in an armed camp has nothing to do with the preamble of the Deceleration of Independence.

the 2nd amendment is there for a reason as all other amendments are. The whole purpose is the people themselves have a right to keep and bear arms. This would be a deterant to tyranny. You can't protect against tyranny when the government controls your firearms. Our forefathers knew this and thus put the right of the people to keep and bear arms in the bill of rights. It has a purpose. In my opinion people have been given a certain power, and "with great power comes great responsibility". It is up to the people to keep each other in check. To make sure we all behave responsibly. I believe it is not our rights that are out of line, but sometimes the people get that way.

It all depends on how you read it. Personally.. I do not consider a bunch of hillbillies with guns to be a 'Well regulated militia'. I see that as an accident waiting to happen.

First of all i hear what you are saying. There are people who wield their weapons irresponsibly. But i still think that falls on the people themselves not the right. The right is for the people to keep and bear arms, not just a well regulated militia. I'm thinking if that were the case it would say the the members of the militia have the right to bear arms. I agree we can't have people buy grenade launchers and such. And once again the people need to take responsibility. If you disagree with what the 2nd amendment actually meant look back the quotes from the people that wrote it.


"No free man shall ever be debarred the use of arms. The strongest reason for the people to retain the right to keep and bear arms is, as a last resort, to protect themselves against tyranny in government."
-Thomas Jefferson, Proposed Virginia Constitution, 1776, Jefferson Papers 344

but, as you said, people that wield these weapons irresponsibly are dangerous...

They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither safety nor liberty. - Benjamin Franklin

i also believe people are dangerous no matter what he or she holds in their hands.