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laidroccordial
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Mon 02/04/08 07:54 PM
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Um..... how about the MURDER of his only begotten son...  by appeasment, of course.  And that is twisted...that you argue away the murder by the statement of the reborn. That is like my saying that it is OK to break your arm because in due time, it will again heal. Now, are you sure you want to argue this? |
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mm - intersting. So let's make up some rules that we think God should follow.
Rule 1: Thou shalt make no temptation greater than an individuals ability to overcome it. Rule 2: Sorrows and disappointment will be equally distributed with no individual receiving more or less than any other one. Rule 3: Thou shalt take responsiblity over the proper and adequate physical and mental functions of all thy creations. Rule 4: Wipe out all false protrayals of the divine. Rule 5: After rule 4 in complete remember that Divine intervention indicates error on the part of the Divinity, and therefore, no intervention should ever be required. OK - WHOSE NEXT! |
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There really is no reason to argue this except for the sake of arguement. If you are blessed enough to have God in your life, then you are aware that the non-believers will constantly argue over that which you can not provide.
I'm not here to change anyones mind. I'm just glad to be here. |
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Gotta love a god who cures the blind but not blindness. I guess that is just one of those little mysteries I'll have to live long enough to understand.
-Drew |
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I just love arguing. but arguing that the lord has not followed his own rules is bad, especially since I haven't seen a good argument yet.
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cuz He makes the rules!
 Alpha and omega means beginning and end, not first and feminine. This is the context. That context and original elucidation is found in Revelation 1: 8. , 1:11. , 21:6. , and finally 22:13. Point being that Omega is the last letter of the Greek alphabet. The context is that Jesus is the last 'Adam '. The first Adam was made after the image and likeness of God, and Jesus was made the infallable 'Adam' by virtue of His deity within. The analogy is furthered in the principle that through Christ, we are indwellt with that deity's inspiration to overcome the carnal selfwilled nature and be conformed into the likeness of Christ wherein righteousnwess dwells by faith, and thereby justified. The concept involves a spiritual metamorphasis(sic), the transmutation of the spirit of man that is now of God and testifying of God and a perfect will for our personal life. This faith is not one of unfounded belief, but of revealed knowledge that is received dependent upon faith in Christ and a belief in God and the promises fulfilled. The purpose of this analogy was not for religious adaptation, but for evidence of that which comes upon the believer from God to testify of the truth of His word in Christ. It was never intended as a mutually exclusive doctrine outside of the baptism of the Holy Spirit and fire that was promised the believer. The evidence to the unbelieving is the lack of the inheritance of the promised blessing. Not that anyone is excluded, but that ones own heart testifies that doubt and unbelief remain. Remove the doubt and unbelief and the promise comes to pass. That is the condition of acceptance. But with great reward comes great responsibility. To whom much is given, much is required. What is required and the responsibilities given are carried to fruition in the believer by God alone. We only become witnesses of His life in us. He still does the work, even though He shares the joy within us. That our fullness of joy be overflowing to the praise and glory and honor to God. No man woman or child can give God anything except for thanksgiving, and even that God plants within us! He does it all, my friend. We only witness it and testify of it. The rest is up to each person to receive. Hope that clears it up.   
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I just love arguing. but arguing that the lord has not followed his own rules is bad, especially since I haven't seen a good argument yet. Actually you've "seen" a couple of them...you've just failed to believe. Drew |
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Not you creative soul.....not you. I was arguing with Isaac. The thought never crossed my mind... It is no secret that the omni-god is fictitous... DOES NOT EXIST... |
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cuz He makes the rules!
Wow, well, if I ever have "a son" and I decide to hang one of them from a cross, I hope you'll come to court with that argument on my behalf. -Drew |
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I just love arguing. but arguing that the lord has not followed his own rules is bad, especially since I haven't seen a good argument yet. Actually you've "seen" a couple of them...you've just failed to believe. Drew |
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I am said to have been born with a sinful mind, one incapable of loving and accepting a "all-loving" god, save for "grace." It would be interesting to find out who provided you with that information. You are that which you believe yourself to be. We all have the ability to love, but those that find it difficult to do so, usually are filled with fear. QUITCHER.... WOW!!!! you got it right on the money, dear. God Bless You!!!
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I am said to have been born with a sinful mind, one incapable of loving and accepting a "all-loving" god, save for "grace." It would be interesting to find out who provided you with that information. You are that which you believe yourself to be. We all have the ability to love, but those that find it difficult to do so, usually are filled with fear. QUITCHER.... WOW!!!! you got it right on the money, dear. God Bless You!!!
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Hey, wouldee, I can't help but note that you left my response to her out of your affirmation of her argument. Hmmmmmm.
Drew |
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Yup... I remember the story... Murder is murder... Ok murder is murder? So God killed Jesus? he struck him with lighting? I don't think so...Man killed Jesus because they couldn't understand him....But i am going to give you a question that i hope helps shed some light on the mystery. Let's say for instance you had 25 kids, and your youngest..the only boy that you had been waiting for for 50 years. Lets say that you also know that your youngest son has two lifes...you know that if he dies he will come back to life...fitter and stronger and a better man than ever. But him being your son you don't want any harm to come to him. You love him a lot but you also love the rest of your kids as well. Ok now the setup is complete. Here is the question...You get kidnapped in a foreign country you and all 25 of your kids. The Guards tell you that if you don't give them your son for them to kill than they will keep the rest of your family their and tortue them until they die...do you give them your son to save your other children? in essence that is exactly what God did for us...he didn't kill Jesus...He handed him over...knowing that he would raise up...But in the process he saved us all! |
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Gotta love you all....
I absolutely believe in 'God'... just not the god of the Bible.... hiya wouldee... hiya Di... nice meetin' ya drew... All else... Peace... Live Learn Laugh Love... Good night... |
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Yup... I remember the story... Murder is murder... Ok murder is murder? So God killed Jesus? he struck him with lighting? I don't think so...Man killed Jesus because they couldn't understand him....But i am going to give you a question that i hope helps shed some light on the mystery. Let's say for instance you had 25 kids, and your youngest..the only boy that you had been waiting for for 50 years. Lets say that you also know that your youngest son has two lifes...you know that if he dies he will come back to life...fitter and stronger and a better man than ever. But him being your son you don't want any harm to come to him. You love him a lot but you also love the rest of your kids as well. Ok now the setup is complete. Here is the question...You get kidnapped in a foreign country you and all 25 of your kids. The Guards tell you that if you don't give them your son for them to kill than they will keep the rest of your family their and tortue them until they die...do you give them your son to save your other children? in essence that is exactly what God did for us...he didn't kill Jesus...He handed him over...knowing that he would raise up...But in the process he saved us all! 
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cuz He makes the rules! Wow, well, if I ever have "a son" and I decide to hang one of them from a cross, I hope you'll come to court with that argument on my behalf. -Drew equally facetious, Drew. Nonetheless, the point is lost on you if you choose to decline to follow through and accept that truth can exist in a finite representation with infinite ramifications. I'll leave the rest up to your conscience to wrestle with some more, seeing that you are capable of making intelligent judgements.  
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I have heard believers come up with so many different personal fabrications for explaining away the insanity of the notion of the omni-god... the creator of all things... he is everywhere... the alpha... the omega(which makes him part female)... All this and that... Yadda... yadda... yadda... so on and so forth... Why doesn't the Christian 'God' follow 'his' own rules? The worst parents are the 'do as I say not as I do' ones. My personal view is that there really are no rules. If you CHOOSE to follow Christ, he shows you the path by setting guidelines, commandments, rules/laws, whatever you want to call them. IMO, God pretty much shows/explains how he would like us to be, but he does not force it upon us. IDK, that's just my thought. |
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Isaac, if your analogy does not strike you as fantasitcal and absurd then please, go on believing as you will. I don't seek to limit your belief, I just know that I've never met a father in my life (worth antything) that would not die for his son..not the other way around.
Sad little illustration and yet no closer to truth. Drew |
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No, wouldee, my question stands..and is not out of line in the least. You have yet to point out how such logic is wrongheaded or misguided, and so you now rest comfortably in your faith. Talk about the easy way.
-Drew |
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