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Topic: so if GOD is real
JaymeStephens84a0lc's photo
Sat 02/02/08 03:24 PM
No thanks, I can see quite clearly that your head is so far up your butt you can almost see again...

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Sat 02/02/08 03:24 PM

Just to let you know I am not judging you or anyone else.
That is not my job.
I have a lot of friends that do not believe. This is a religious chat room, and that is what we are doing.
Wether you believe or not, these things were brought up here and I am just addressing them.
I consider all the people here my friends, and if you ever need anything, please ask me. I love to help anyone I can.
I do care , and I do care about the truth.
I am speaking the truth so that you will not be misled. Just like you believe in what you say.
You should always stand up for what you believe in, and I applaud you for doing so.


Kenneth -- Same here. Please don't take anything I have said as being intended in any way to denigrate you or your beliefs. These discussions can get a little heated at times, and I don't think there's anything wrong with that, as long as everyone maintains respect. I'm not trying to be antagonistic; I am simply raising some points about my own beliefs, in contrast to others'.

I have read the Bible seven times, and have studied it extensively. I just don't happen to believe it's the inspired word of God -- I don't believe there is a God. I acknowledge that I could be wrong about that. And if he ever shows up at my door with proper ID, I'll reassess my position.

:wink:

KennethP5206's photo
Sat 02/02/08 03:26 PM


Just to let you know I am not judging you or anyone else.
That is not my job.
I have a lot of friends that do not believe. This is a religious chat room, and that is what we are doing.
Wether you believe or not, these things were brought up here and I am just addressing them.
I consider all the people here my friends, and if you ever need anything, please ask me. I love to help anyone I can.
I do care , and I do care about the truth.
I am speaking the truth so that you will not be misled. Just like you believe in what you say.
You should always stand up for what you believe in, and I applaud you for doing so.


I really am laughing right now, b/c you're judging everyone that doesn't follow the exact same belief pattern as yourself, assuming that if they don't follow that book that they're somehow misled. I'm getting along JUST fine, I think its you, sir, who is severely misled.

No I am not judging...I am just telling you what the bible say's.

KennethP5206's photo
Sat 02/02/08 03:27 PM

No thanks, I can see quite clearly that your head is so far up your butt you can almost see again...

Oh...come on Honey don't be like that...lets kiss and make uplaugh laugh laugh laugh

JaymeStephens84a0lc's photo
Sat 02/02/08 03:29 PM
I KNOW what the bible says, thank you. I just don't happen to personally believe a word it says. Thats just me. You do, and thats fine. However, you have NO right to push it on anyone else. I do not force my beliefs on anyone else, and I really do not like it when others do it to me. I get enough for it from my family, I dont' need it from you.

KennethP5206's photo
Sat 02/02/08 03:29 PM


Just to let you know I am not judging you or anyone else.
That is not my job.
I have a lot of friends that do not believe. This is a religious chat room, and that is what we are doing.
Wether you believe or not, these things were brought up here and I am just addressing them.
I consider all the people here my friends, and if you ever need anything, please ask me. I love to help anyone I can.
I do care , and I do care about the truth.
I am speaking the truth so that you will not be misled. Just like you believe in what you say.
You should always stand up for what you believe in, and I applaud you for doing so.


Kenneth -- Same here. Please don't take anything I have said as being intended in any way to denigrate you or your beliefs. These discussions can get a little heated at times, and I don't think there's anything wrong with that, as long as everyone maintains respect. I'm not trying to be antagonistic; I am simply raising some points about my own beliefs, in contrast to others'.

I have read the Bible seven times, and have studied it extensively. I just don't happen to believe it's the inspired word of God -- I don't believe there is a God. I acknowledge that I could be wrong about that. And if he ever shows up at my door with proper ID, I'll reassess my position.

:wink:

I already knew that. And I take no offense at all.

KennethP5206's photo
Sat 02/02/08 03:32 PM

I KNOW what the bible says, thank you. I just don't happen to personally believe a word it says. Thats just me. You do, and thats fine. However, you have NO right to push it on anyone else. I do not force my beliefs on anyone else, and I really do not like it when others do it to me. I get enough for it from my family, I dont' need it from you.

Lol...I am not pushing it on anyone, you are in a religious chat room, and I am just adressing the issues that you and everyone has brought up.I have the right here in America to say what I want, just like you do.
Now let's kiss and make up and be friends:wink:

JaymeStephens84a0lc's photo
Sat 02/02/08 03:41 PM
Yes, and I came in here to help this kid out. Not to be persecuted for my beliefs. RELIGIOUS doesn't just mean Christian, I'm very religious. Wicca is a religion, darling. Oh, and that kiss and make up thing won't happen... once I decide I don't like you, there's really not much you can do to change my mind.

KennethP5206's photo
Sat 02/02/08 03:42 PM

Yes, and I came in here to help this kid out. Not to be persecuted for my beliefs. RELIGIOUS doesn't just mean Christian, I'm very religious. Wicca is a religion, darling. Oh, and that kiss and make up thing won't happen... once I decide I don't like you, there's really not much you can do to change my mind.

Lol...come on Peachesflowerforyou

KennethP5206's photo
Sat 02/02/08 03:45 PM

Yes, and I came in here to help this kid out. Not to be persecuted for my beliefs. RELIGIOUS doesn't just mean Christian, I'm very religious. Wicca is a religion, darling. Oh, and that kiss and make up thing won't happen... once I decide I don't like you, there's really not much you can do to change my mind.

Again I did not persecute you and I apollogize to you if that is what you truly think.flowerforyou

PublicAnimalNo9's photo
Sat 02/02/08 04:59 PM
I guess I'm lucky in that I've seen more than the average bear.
I've seen or experienced many things I cannot explain. I have seen TRUE magic at work. I've seen the wonder and beauty of God.
And we all have witnessed the "miracles" of science.
I've seen paranormal stuff and even astral travelled.
And there are probably as many "rational" reasons those things happened as there are religions in this world.
The simple matter is, belief and faith are based on PERSONAL experience. To even try to convince someone that what they saw or felt wasn't real would like trying to fight a grizzly bear with a thumb tack. It's pointless AND useless.
If only we could just accept others belief systems, and LEARN instead of being close minded.
Just because it doesn't jive with your belief doesn't mean you still can't learn something positive from it.

KKLove's photo
Sat 02/02/08 09:51 PM
Bravo Jayme for stating such good things.
If we are not right and happy with ouselves, we won't be attracting the right people in our life. You go girl! :)

KK

JaymeStephens84a0lc's photo
Sat 02/02/08 10:02 PM
I just stated the truth, and thank you. I know exactly how he feels. Because I KEEP getting my heart broken, I decided its time to step back and take a look at myself. Once I did I realized how much I was truly hating what I saw, mentally and physically. I realized I'm better BOTH ways when I'm accomplishing something. What I need to accomplish right now is to get the extra weight off that I've gained so I can feel better in my body. Some people are comfortable with themselves bigger, but I'm NOT one of those people.

I wish for this young man to do the same...lol, not for the weight thing b/c he looks perfectly healthy to me, but to look deep inside and find out what is keeping him from being happy with himself that allowed HER to treat him badly. People can only treat us how they allow them to. Men were treating me like trash b/c I was allowing it and letting them have weight on my self esteem. Thats no way to live. Good luck Alex, you'll be okay.

creativesoul's photo
Sat 02/02/08 10:08 PM
To the original OP...

Heartbreak is no fun for any of us...

A balance must include both ends of any given spectrum...

Think about that which brings hope, joy, and promise... believe it will happen, know 'that', and you will see 'that' begin to materialize...

What do you feel?

ok im a preachers son and God said in the bible that he wants what right for us. and i think this one girl is right for me but all i got was a broken heart why would God let u hurt soooo bad u wanna just die


Perhaps 'God' does not meddle in human affairs...

jonlaw's photo
Sat 02/02/08 10:15 PM
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But the bible also tells us if we are living in sin he does not hear our prayers.
And if your not married and your sleeping with this girl you are living in sin, and your prayers will not be heard
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Boy my friend I have always believed in God but what I did not realize that He was you. Gods love is unconditional and we all have sinned and fell short of the gloy of God. he even sent his holy prophet to talk with king david right after he committed first degree murder so for you to say that God will not answer this young mans prayers suggests that you know Gods plan for this man. I feel that nobody has that right to say what God will or will not do. no offense.:smile:

Differentkindofwench's photo
Sat 02/02/08 10:16 PM
Or perhaps the answer was just......um, no, but you won't believe me so learn for yourself. Most do get annoyed when they don't get what they "want", but ya usually do get what ya need, whether you're aware of it or not.

JaymeStephens84a0lc's photo
Sat 02/02/08 10:22 PM

Or perhaps the answer was just......um, no, but you won't believe me so learn for yourself. Most do get annoyed when they don't get what they "want", but ya usually do get what ya need, whether you're aware of it or not.


He'll learn that eventually, after all, he is still very young and has lots of time to go through this stuff. I dont' wish it on him, but it IS one of those inevitable things that happens. He's allowed to question and be a little naive, thats what being young is for. I'm still only 23 and the only thing I've learned is I know NOTHING....lol, he'll learn that eventually too. We all do at some point, just takes some longer than others.

Foliel's photo
Sat 02/02/08 11:01 PM
I have been in the broken hearts club more than once. You will heal, this is true, it is als true that it will take time. Someday whn you least expect it, the right girl will come along. You'll know when it happens.

I will withhold comment on the religion part of the discussion as i myself do not believe in it.

Thanks for the lmao Jayme some of your posts had me laughing too hard to type.


"No thanks, I can see quite clearly that your head is so far up your butt you can almost see again..."

cpegus's photo
Sun 02/03/08 07:05 AM
I know people I'll start a new religion:::

One where you are not Allowed to Blame God for the Crap that happens in your own life!!!!

The end result of everything in your life stems from the choices you made--

A woman will leave you for several reasons-

Did you brush your teeth and used mouth wash before going over to her place?
Were you respectful of/towards her or just talked a bunch of dirty talk when you saw her?
Were you a lil couch potato and decided not to do anything with her?
Were you cheap and didn't want to take out and show her a good time?
Were you a bad kisser?
These are some of the MANY reasons why a woman will leave you-- SO tell me where does GOD come into any of the statements that I just made?
Maybe before you get a new girlfriend/mate you should stop at a local Barnes and Nobel and buy/read up on the rules of dating-- make sure you have your finances right so that you can afford to take her out to some nice dinners----
read up on the places/attractions that your local city has to offer so that you know where you can take her that'll be fun.
Brush up on your Hygiene
Exercise and get into shape --loose the gut.
If you don't have one get a commanding knowledge of the English language so you can captivate her with your eloquence and express yourself when it comes time to telling her how special she is.
Buy a joke book and brush up on your Humor
Keep up to date with current events so you can have meaningful conversations with her.
And For God sake!!! If you're too lazy or choose not do any of these things to improve yourself and make yourself a better catch...PLEASE DON'T BLAME GOD FOR THE POOR CHOICES YOU MADE

UNgreateful people are the ones that tend to Blame God for their short comings


JaymeStephens84a0lc's photo
Sun 02/03/08 08:18 AM

Thanks for the lmao Jayme some of your posts had me laughing too hard to type.


"No thanks, I can see quite clearly that your head is so far up your butt you can almost see again..."


Haha, no problem. I become a regular smart @$$ when people stand on a soap box like that.

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