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Topic: questions that believers are afraid to answer - part 2
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Mon 01/28/08 05:47 PM

I’ll kick the feces out of the way with a staff
Then sit back and just have a good laugh.
What you think is a delusion
Might just be confusion huh
And to think you could’ve made us a graph.


imageorgiagirl saids shes a believer
but it's really herself that deceived her
that she feels it in her heart
it sounds more like a fart
and remind me of Leave it to Beaver

iamgeorgiagirl's photo
Mon 01/28/08 06:38 PM
laugh laugh laugh

Good one!



iamgeorgiagirl's photo
Tue 01/29/08 10:36 AM


I’ll kick the feces out of the way with a staff
Then sit back and just have a good laugh.
What you think is a delusion
Might just be confusion huh
And to think you could’ve made us a graph.


imageorgiagirl saids shes a believer
but it's really herself that deceived her
that she feels it in her heart
it sounds more like a fart
and remind me of Leave it to Beaver


I don't think The Creator had a creator
I know it's been a great big debater
Now it seems when you die
You'll know it sweetie pie
And remember this JSH's potential dater.


:smile: :wink: :smile:

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Tue 01/29/08 11:05 AM



I’ll kick the feces out of the way with a staff
Then sit back and just have a good laugh.
What you think is a delusion
Might just be confusion huh
And to think you could’ve made us a graph.


imageorgiagirl saids shes a believer
but it's really herself that deceived her
that she feels it in her heart
it sounds more like a fart
and remind me of Leave it to Beaver


I don't think The Creator had a creator
I know it's been a great big debater
Now it seems when you die
You'll know it sweetie pie
And remember this JSH's potential dater.


that one must die to meet God
seems more like a fear driven facade
is it really your intention
that God exist in another dimension
to believe this seems very odd

scttrbrain's photo
Tue 01/29/08 11:13 AM




I’ll kick the feces out of the way with a staff
Then sit back and just have a good laugh.
What you think is a delusion
Might just be confusion huh
And to think you could’ve made us a graph.


imageorgiagirl saids shes a believer
but it's really herself that deceived her
that she feels it in her heart
it sounds more like a fart
and remind me of Leave it to Beaver


I don't think The Creator had a creator
I know it's been a great big debater
Now it seems when you die
You'll know it sweetie pie
And remember this JSH's potential dater.


that one must die to meet God
seems more like a fear driven facade
is it really your intention
that God exist in another dimension
to believe this seems very odd


To me Jesus is awesome
But to lie down and play dead
For some to play possum
To me sounds very odd
To deny the exsistance of God
To say what one feels
Sounds like a fart
Cuts me to the core
It breaks my very heart



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Tue 01/29/08 11:37 AM

To deny the exsistance of God


"scttrbrain"..the original question does not dispute the existence of God the original question just suggest that going by believer's logic that God also has a God or a creator creator



To say what one feels
Sounds like a fart


which means that feelings could be the end result from one's eating habits



Cuts me to the core
It breaks my very heart


that something breaks your heart is just a "feeling" and doesn't mean that your heart is really broke ...it's an indication of irrational emotions

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Tue 01/29/08 12:23 PM
"that something breaks your heart is just a "feeling" and doesn't mean that your heart is really broke ...it's an indication of irrational emotions"

Depending on perspective. True enough her heart is not really physically (mechanically) broken by your choice of words; this I cannot dispute. Metaphorically or symbolically her heart may indeed be broken by your words with the rationalization such a sad event in humanity does destroy the "spirit" of "good will toward men".

Chazster's photo
Tue 01/29/08 12:25 PM
its not an irrational motion. its a figure of speech.
And no the creators logic doesn't say God has to have a creator it says God always existed. No matter if you believe in God or not for the Universe to be something had to already exist whether it be the creator or the matter and energy that created the universe.

Chazster's photo
Tue 01/29/08 12:25 PM

"that something breaks your heart is just a "feeling" and doesn't mean that your heart is really broke ...it's an indication of irrational emotions"

Depending on perspective. True enough her heart is not really physically (mechanically) broken by your choice of words; this I cannot dispute. Metaphorically or symbolically her heart may indeed be broken by your words with the rationalization such a sad event in humanity does destroy the "spirit" of "good will toward men".

Well said Sir.

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Tue 01/29/08 12:31 PM

"that something breaks your heart is just a "feeling" and doesn't mean that your heart is really broke ...it's an indication of irrational emotions"

Depending on perspective. True enough her heart is not really physically (mechanically) broken by your choice of words; this I cannot dispute. Metaphorically or symbolically her heart may indeed be broken by your words with the rationalization such a sad event in humanity does destroy the "spirit" of "good will toward men".


"feisty wench" ..you included the terms "metaphorically" and "symbolically" but left out the one term that would explain it all which is FANTASY" because it's all "hypothetically"

Chazster's photo
Tue 01/29/08 12:34 PM
you realize a fantasy and a hypothesis are 2 different things dont you?

Differentkindofwench's photo
Tue 01/29/08 12:36 PM
One person's fantasy may well become the favored reality of humanity tomorrow. If necessity is the mother of invention, perhaps "Fantasy" is the father.

Chazster's photo
Tue 01/29/08 12:38 PM
Either way, her saying her heart is broken is neither a fantasy or a hypothetical.

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Tue 01/29/08 12:38 PM

its not an irrational motion. its a figure of speech.
And no the creators logic doesn't say God has to have a creator it says God always existed. No matter if you believe in God or not for the Universe to be something had to already exist whether it be the creator or the matter and energy that created the universe.


now Chaster you are sounding like a scientologist..making assumptions and not explaining rationally why you made the assumptions ...all your assumptions are fixated on your religious beliefs

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Tue 01/29/08 12:42 PM

you realize a fantasy and a hypothesis are 2 different things dont you?


right..."Chazster".. just like water and ice are two different things

Chazster's photo
Tue 01/29/08 12:43 PM
No its based on physics. Matter can neither be created or destroyed (law of conservation of mass)
Energy cannot be created or destroyed (first law of thermodynamics)
With this laws then the matter and energy in the universe always existed hence something that was always there. Don't you know physics?

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Tue 01/29/08 12:45 PM


you realize a fantasy and a hypothesis are 2 different things dont you?


right..."Chazster".. just like water and ice are two different things

Technically, they are in two different states or forms of being.

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Tue 01/29/08 12:46 PM
Edited by Chazster on Tue 01/29/08 12:46 PM


you realize a fantasy and a hypothesis are 2 different things dont you?


right..."Chazster".. just like water and ice are two different things

no water and ice are 2 forms of the same thing. Fantasy is something someone makes up. A hypothesis is an educated guess based on observations to answer questions about something unknown. You can test and validate a hypothesis making it true. If something is fantasy it cant be true.
Again I remind you to learn the meanings of words before you use them.

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Tue 01/29/08 12:46 PM

One person's fantasy may well become the favored reality of humanity tomorrow. If necessity is the mother of invention, perhaps "Fantasy" is the father.


..er..remember "feisty wench" "scttrbrain" was talking about a broken heart...so what..they going to start inventing broken hearts... you're beginning to sound delusional now

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Tue 01/29/08 12:48 PM

Either way, her saying her heart is broken is neither a fantasy or a hypothetical.


Chazster why do you say stuff and never explain why you said it..

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