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Topic: questions that believers are afraid to answer - part 2
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Tue 01/29/08 01:48 PM


Point taken. One can also feel intense sorrow at the callousness of others without being deemed irrational.


intense sorrow? how does one knows that it just not average sorrow
"To me Jesus is awesome
But to lie down and play dead
For some to play possum
To me sounds very odd
To deny the exsistance of God
To say what one feels
Sounds like a fart
Cuts me to the core
It breaks my very heart"

Last two lines are indicative to my perception of intense rather than average.

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Tue 01/29/08 01:52 PM


To deny the exsistance of God


"scttrbrain"..the original question does not dispute the existence of God the original question just suggest that going by believer's logic that God also has a God or a creator creator



To say what one feels
Sounds like a fart


which means that feelings could be the end result from one's eating habits



Cuts me to the core
It breaks my very heart


that something breaks your heart is just a "feeling" and doesn't mean that your heart is really broke ...it's an indication of irrational emotions
"doesn't mean that your heart is really broke" I'm all agog if your meaning of "really broke" has been misconstrued in some way?

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Tue 01/29/08 02:00 PM



Point taken. One can also feel intense sorrow at the callousness of others without being deemed irrational.


intense sorrow? how does one knows that it just not average sorrow
"To me Jesus is awesome
But to lie down and play dead
For some to play possum
To me sounds very odd
To deny the exsistance of God
To say what one feels
Sounds like a fart
Cuts me to the core
It breaks my very heart"

Last two lines are indicative to my perception of intense rather than average.



I meant what I wrote..that I was explaining how a fart and a broken heart was just irrational feelings as pertaining to religious belief

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Tue 01/29/08 02:02 PM
Edited by Differentkindofwench on Tue 01/29/08 02:04 PM
Irrelevant to point of discussion.

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Tue 01/29/08 02:02 PM



To deny the exsistance of God


"scttrbrain"..the original question does not dispute the existence of God the original question just suggest that going by believer's logic that God also has a God or a creator creator



To say what one feels
Sounds like a fart


which means that feelings could be the end result from one's eating habits



Cuts me to the core
It breaks my very heart


that something breaks your heart is just a "feeling" and doesn't mean that your heart is really broke ...it's an indication of irrational emotions
"doesn't mean that your heart is really broke" I'm all agog if your meaning of "really broke" has been misconstrued in some way?


"feisty wench" it was you that came up with the idea of inventing broken hearts...you are the one that took it to that physical level

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Tue 01/29/08 02:04 PM

Wrong argument.


you went off topic with that mother and father of inventions stuff when the conversation had nothing to do with inventing anything ...it was about irrational feelings

Differentkindofwench's photo
Tue 01/29/08 02:05 PM
Evasion. Was your meaning of "really broken" misconstrued by me?

Differentkindofwench's photo
Tue 01/29/08 02:07 PM
My rational response involved the process of invention - not off topic and I incorporated to how it pertained to your use of "fantasy"

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Tue 01/29/08 02:08 PM

Evasion. Was your meaning of "really broken" misconstrued by me?


explain why you brought invention into it and you will have your answer

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Tue 01/29/08 02:15 PM

My rational response involved the process of invention - not off topic and I incorporated to how it pertained to your use of "fantasy"


"feisty wench"..we were talking about irrational feelings that I said could be the result of a fart or Gas and mistaken for a broken heart ..so it was not fantasy...it was about the mis-interpetation of one's emotions

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Tue 01/29/08 02:20 PM
Actually, I did not bring up "inventing broken hearts", you accused me of doing so in your post.

Nope, that still does not answer if I misunderstood your meaning of "really broken" to which you seem disinclined to answer.

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Tue 01/29/08 02:23 PM




you realize a fantasy and a hypothesis are 2 different things dont you?


right..."Chazster".. just like water and ice are two different things

no water and ice are 2 forms of the same thing. Fantasy is something someone makes up. A hypothesis is an educated guess based on observations to answer questions about something unknown. You can test and validate a hypothesis making it true. If something is fantasy it cant be true.
Again I remind you to learn the meanings of words before you use them.


fantasy belief hypothesis ...all comes to the same conclusion ...assumption

a fantasy is in no way an assumption

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Tue 01/29/08 02:25 PM



its not an irrational motion. its a figure of speech.

I did explain it earlier. Its called a figure of speech. People using the term "broken heart" is so common that if you haven't heard it you must live under a rock.


"Chazster"...everything you say can be viewed as being a figure of speech ..."scuttrbrain" said she had a broken heart what do you assume that means that her hair hurts

No its not an assumption because its a common phrase that people know the meaning too. Broken heart is a term used to describe a feeling. There is no assumption needed unless of course you don't have a heart and must assume what the pain would feel like.

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Tue 01/29/08 02:27 PM

Actually, I did not bring up "inventing broken hearts", you accused me of doing so in your post.

Nope, that still does not answer if I misunderstood your meaning of "really broken" to which you seem disinclined to answer.


well doesn't all this depends on Kat's response to my last post to her ...maybe she actually believes that her heart is broken

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Tue 01/29/08 02:29 PM





you realize a fantasy and a hypothesis are 2 different things dont you?


right..."Chazster".. just like water and ice are two different things

no water and ice are 2 forms of the same thing. Fantasy is something someone makes up. A hypothesis is an educated guess based on observations to answer questions about something unknown. You can test and validate a hypothesis making it true. If something is fantasy it cant be true.
Again I remind you to learn the meanings of words before you use them.


fantasy belief hypothesis ...all comes to the same conclusion ...assumption

a fantasy is in no way an assumption


a belief that is claimed as being truth can be considered as being a fantasy to others ...an an assumption of a truth

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Tue 01/29/08 02:33 PM

No its not an assumption because its a common phrase that people know the meaning too. Broken heart is a term used to describe a feeling. There is no assumption needed unless of course you don't have a heart and must assume what the pain would feel like.


and as I said "Chazster".. a "feeling" could be the end results from eating a bad burrito

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Tue 01/29/08 02:33 PM
Edited by Chazster on Tue 01/29/08 02:34 PM
you are considering it a fantasy. that doesnt make it a fantasy. The fantasy itself is not the assumption but the fact that it is one could be. Yet that doesn't make a fantasy an assumption. Either way you were referring to her broken heart which again I say is neither fantasy or assumption.

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Tue 01/29/08 02:37 PM
Edited by Differentkindofwench on Tue 01/29/08 02:46 PM


Actually, I did not bring up "inventing broken hearts", you accused me of doing so in your post.

Nope, that still does not answer if I misunderstood your meaning of "really broken" to which you seem disinclined to answer.


well doesn't all this depends on Kat's response to my last post to her ...maybe she actually believes that her heart is broken

Are you telling me you have no clue what you meant by your own words "really broken"? At this point Kat's response has nothing to do with your intended meaning of a phrase you chose to write.

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Tue 01/29/08 02:38 PM

you are considering it a fantasy. that doesnt make it a fantasy. The fantasy itself is not the assumption but the fact that it is one could be. Yet that doesn't make a fantasy an assumption. Either way you were referring to her broken heart which again I say is neither fantasy or assumption.


..er.."Chazster" my money is on Kat's broken heart being a product of fantasy

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Tue 01/29/08 02:41 PM
Then I guess you are gonna go bankrupt. Cause its a description of a emotional response not to be take literally. The heart is considered the area the is connected with love and when you fell a certain degree of sadness and you have a physical pain in your chest people often refer to that as a broken heart.

But I will allow you to wallow in your ignorance and consider it a fantasy.

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