bah-ZING!

Abracadabra will be here all week folks! Tip your waitress! Try the veal!

lying? ...the politically correct term is faith

lying is ok when you're cheating and stealing

or if i ask you if my butt looks big while wearing spandex and you say no.

Oops!

Sorry,… my humblest apologies.

soxfan94 wrote ;



There appears to be some confusion between our posts indeed.

You may be referring to the act itself, while that is not at all my point. Quite to the contrary, I suggest that the act itself means little in this context, until intent kicks in.

And while you may be under the impression that I'm referring to the result, I used the words 'sound moral and ethical INTENT', where deceiving would apply to that which is morally and ethically accepted as right, as opposed to deceiving specific individuals. Intent, not result.



Read the definition again, it is not '... to speak falsely and have the intent to deceive...'

but rather,



To speak falsely alone does not in any way shape or form automatically constitute a lie!!! '... what time is it? It is 5pm. No sir, it is 5'03!' If it is in fact 5'03, te 5pm answer could hardly constitute a lie while it is spoken fasely!

Only if spoken falsely knowingly, as with intent to deceive! does it contitute a lie.

I was going to mention that.

If the reason a person is lying is to cover up an already immoral act then isn't the question moot to begin with?

And if their reason for lying is to instill (ahem) "faith" in their children then it's cool, right?

Clearly people treat the concept of lying within the context of its moral purpose as Voileazur has already elucidated.

Boy, that sounds sinful doesn’t it? Voil, are you an “elucidator”? A pervader of elucidations.

I think feel a song coming on.

Youupppeee!!!

Allright!!!

Bring on the song!!!

i thought it was ok if you cross your fingers behind your back????? maybe not.......

'Abra' wrote ;



A pervador!!! ... as in 'spreading trough every possible and imaginable part!?!?!?

That would definitely be me!!!

what about if an insecure friend asks you if their giant hairy mole is visible under the makeup? do you tell them yes?

(btw, no, i cannot be serious tonite. sorry.)

never ok, you should always be truthful. if they can't handle the truth, that's their problem.

a white lie is still a lie

That's what they invented lipstick for.

To paint those little white lies bloody red!

Is a pig's ass pork?

in a religious belief there is no such thing as a lie

Now that is not an easy one 'winnie' !!!

Giant hairy moles must always be addressed with great diplomacy! (there's another term which means speaking falsely, but not necessarily lying!!!).

If you were to spend the whole day with your 'giant hairy mole' friend, were sure not even accidentally mention the 'thing', and were certain that no other male, or otherwise potentially courting pretendors were to 'show-up', i wouldn't mention the 'thing', and IMO it wouldn't constitute a lie!

Anything else, puts you in the league of hopeless sinners!!!

:)

of course to quote austin powers "moley moley moley moley moley. i just want to chop it up and put it in guacaMOLE. "



and voil, we are all sinners remember? some of us are just better at it than others.

I think it depends more on the intentions of the liar.