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| Topic: I'll be damned.. Hillary won me over.. | |
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She has some things going in her favor. It leads me to believe she has a good chance in this race. One is the bigotry against Obama and the second in Ron Paul splitting the republican vote if he runs as a 3rd party candidate. Well, that was almost, kinda, maybe a possilbe little bit of a consideration of support.....lol Just pulling your leg there. I understand some of the points against her. Alot of the people against her are judging her on Bill and this should not happen she stands alone. Yes, there are similarities as they are from the same party and same background ect... I happen to have liked Bill too, and felt he got a rotten deal with the Monica thing. I personally believe that in the presidential seat, sex should be allowed and as long as parties are of age and consenting, go for it. I was glad he was having sex. It is one of the great joys of being human. But that is the past. I have hesitations with Obama, I think it is his newness. I guess some would say that is a good thing in some ways. Not corrupt, etc... I just would like to have a little more experience especially with the folly of Iraq to deal with. Okay I am writing a book again 
My point was if the republicans can't unite on a single candidate and Ron Paul runs as a 3rd party candidate, the election will go to the democrates. I think there is too much bigotry today to give Obama the DNC nomination so it would go to Hillary and thus the presidency. I didn't say I liked it. Honestly, I don't see a dimes worth of difference between any of the democrat candidates. They have pretty much the same message. As for sex in the oval office....  Why not have an orgy? but not with Hillary
She does not appeal to you at a sexual level then I take it
Yes, I have seen from your other posts that you are a repub. I have never been and won't. I have seen too many racists join the bandwagon for the repubs. I also was raised around those type of repubs and it is ugly to me. The bush type repubs. No offense of course. I have so little respect for our sitting pres, I can barely stand it. He is so incompetent. But that is my opinion. I will say when Hillary first started hinting at her possible running, I was not an advocate. But I have since began to have a slight understanding of her. Plus, she is a b*tch and I admire that....lol
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I was hoping for a Dem I could vote for. I don't like Hillary at all. Nothing to do with her a woman. I don't see why people think it would be weird. Not in this day and age. It would be just as normal as anyone else. I felt we needed a dem next. I'm not entirely happy with either the current Dem or Rep front runners. I'm not sure who I'll vote for at this point.
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I was hoping for a Dem I could vote for. I don't like Hillary at all. Nothing to do with her a woman. I don't see why people think it would be weird. Not in this day and age. It would be just as normal as anyone else. I felt we needed a dem next. I'm not entirely happy with either the current Dem or Rep front runners. I'm not sure who I'll vote for at this point. I would love to be on this earth to see a woman pres or a minority in the office. As America we should have already had it happen. Of course, I was not a fan of the reverend who always ran for the black ticket before but it would have been nice. We are America and we are diverse and should show it at all levels of our government. If you do not like her. You do not like her. I always feel we are picking the less of two evils so I feel given our options of a rock and a hard place, she is the best bet. |
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Edited by
mrtxstar
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She has some things going in her favor. It leads me to believe she has a good chance in this race. One is the bigotry against Obama and the second in Ron Paul splitting the republican vote if he runs as a 3rd party candidate. Well, that was almost, kinda, maybe a possilbe little bit of a consideration of support.....lol Just pulling your leg there. I understand some of the points against her. Alot of the people against her are judging her on Bill and this should not happen she stands alone. Yes, there are similarities as they are from the same party and same background ect... I happen to have liked Bill too, and felt he got a rotten deal with the Monica thing. I personally believe that in the presidential seat, sex should be allowed and as long as parties are of age and consenting, go for it. I was glad he was having sex. It is one of the great joys of being human. But that is the past. I have hesitations with Obama, I think it is his newness. I guess some would say that is a good thing in some ways. Not corrupt, etc... I just would like to have a little more experience especially with the folly of Iraq to deal with. Okay I am writing a book again
My point was if the republicans can't unite on a single candidate and Ron Paul runs as a 3rd party candidate, the election will go to the democrates. I think there is too much bigotry today to give Obama the DNC nomination so it would go to Hillary and thus the presidency. I didn't say I liked it. Honestly, I don't see a dimes worth of difference between any of the democrat candidates. They have pretty much the same message. As for sex in the oval office.... Why not have an orgy? but not with Hillary
She does not appeal to you at a sexual level then I take it
Yes, I have seen from your other posts that you are a repub. I have never been and won't. I have seen too many racists join the bandwagon for the repubs. I also was raised around those type of repubs and it is ugly to me. The bush type repubs. No offense of course. I have so little respect for our sitting pres, I can barely stand it. He is so incompetent. But that is my opinion. I will say when Hillary first started hinting at her possible running, I was not an advocate. But I have since began to have a slight understanding of her. Plus, she is a b*tch and I admire that....lol
Being a B*tch is not a qulification to be president. She has very little experience but then, the same can be said for Obama. Hillary wants to socialize health care... Do you understand what this means? Government ran programs are crap. She says she will withdraw the troops in Iraq but she can't. She knows she can't. But that's what you want to hear... so she lies and you believe. Read this link to understand why she can not withdraw the troops in Iraq. http://www.danielpipes.org/comments/24898 Bottom line, withdrawl from Iraq would be political suicide and you know she wants a second term. Give me a better reason than what you've already stated for voting for Hillary. Just being a woman, or to quote you, a B*tch, is not a logical reason. Respectfully to: Dragoness
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I think anyone who votes for Hillary is a damned fool. Voting because she looked sincere when she cried??? If you want to see your paycheck cut in half and not be able to see a doctor for about 8 months. Feel free to cast your vote. I have talked with people from Canada and England where they have socialized health care and it doesn't work. The ones I talked to now live here because of that. Seeing how easy people can be won over in this room you have now answered my questions on how people end up in cults.
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I am still reading about the candidates so far I like Ron Paul, I can't say hillary wouldn't be good but neither can I say Ron Paul would be good.
I am not fond of Huckabee, no it's not because he was a minister. I read the issues and listened to them on TV and his views don't match mine. Most of them don't agree with one of my views but oh well can't be helped. |
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She has some things going in her favor. It leads me to believe she has a good chance in this race. One is the bigotry against Obama and the second in Ron Paul splitting the republican vote if he runs as a 3rd party candidate. Well, that was almost, kinda, maybe a possilbe little bit of a consideration of support.....lol Just pulling your leg there. I understand some of the points against her. Alot of the people against her are judging her on Bill and this should not happen she stands alone. Yes, there are similarities as they are from the same party and same background ect... I happen to have liked Bill too, and felt he got a rotten deal with the Monica thing. I personally believe that in the presidential seat, sex should be allowed and as long as parties are of age and consenting, go for it. I was glad he was having sex. It is one of the great joys of being human. But that is the past. I have hesitations with Obama, I think it is his newness. I guess some would say that is a good thing in some ways. Not corrupt, etc... I just would like to have a little more experience especially with the folly of Iraq to deal with. Okay I am writing a book again
My point was if the republicans can't unite on a single candidate and Ron Paul runs as a 3rd party candidate, the election will go to the democrates. I think there is too much bigotry today to give Obama the DNC nomination so it would go to Hillary and thus the presidency. I didn't say I liked it. Honestly, I don't see a dimes worth of difference between any of the democrat candidates. They have pretty much the same message. As for sex in the oval office.... Why not have an orgy? but not with Hillary
She does not appeal to you at a sexual level then I take it
Yes, I have seen from your other posts that you are a repub. I have never been and won't. I have seen too many racists join the bandwagon for the repubs. I also was raised around those type of repubs and it is ugly to me. The bush type repubs. No offense of course. I have so little respect for our sitting pres, I can barely stand it. He is so incompetent. But that is my opinion. I will say when Hillary first started hinting at her possible running, I was not an advocate. But I have since began to have a slight understanding of her. Plus, she is a b*tch and I admire that....lol
Being a B*tch is not a qulification to be president. She has very little experience but then, the same can be said for Obama. Hillary wants to socialize health care... Do you understand what this means? Government ran programs are crap. She says she will withdraw the troops in Iraq but she can't. She knows she can't. But that's what you want to hear... so she lies and you believe. Read this link to understand why she can not withdraw the troops in Iraq. http://www.danielpipes.org/comments/24898 Bottom line, withdrawl from Iraq would be political suicide and you know she wants a second term. Give me a better reason than what you've already stated for voting for Hillary. Just being a woman, or to quote you, a B*tch, is not a logical reason. Respectfully to: Dragoness
I stated earlier, I reviewed her voting record in congress and she stands for alot of my personal beliefs and perspectives. I very rarely go on what they say, I look at voting records, I look for actions. I did not agree with some of her votes though but one cannot find a perfect fit. As for Iraq, we will be withdrawing now or later. It is only a matter of time before the black hole there sucks us dry of money and lives. We (at least some of us) understood that region of the world and what would happen if we went there before the war but noone would listen to us. Now we are stuck in the mire of a civil dispute that will not be resolved. We have no place democracizing other nations. They did not ask to be "democracized" by us in the first place. |
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She has some things going in her favor. It leads me to believe she has a good chance in this race. One is the bigotry against Obama and the second in Ron Paul splitting the republican vote if he runs as a 3rd party candidate. Well, that was almost, kinda, maybe a possilbe little bit of a consideration of support.....lol Just pulling your leg there. I understand some of the points against her. Alot of the people against her are judging her on Bill and this should not happen she stands alone. Yes, there are similarities as they are from the same party and same background ect... I happen to have liked Bill too, and felt he got a rotten deal with the Monica thing. I personally believe that in the presidential seat, sex should be allowed and as long as parties are of age and consenting, go for it. I was glad he was having sex. It is one of the great joys of being human. But that is the past. I have hesitations with Obama, I think it is his newness. I guess some would say that is a good thing in some ways. Not corrupt, etc... I just would like to have a little more experience especially with the folly of Iraq to deal with. Okay I am writing a book again
My point was if the republicans can't unite on a single candidate and Ron Paul runs as a 3rd party candidate, the election will go to the democrates. I think there is too much bigotry today to give Obama the DNC nomination so it would go to Hillary and thus the presidency. I didn't say I liked it. Honestly, I don't see a dimes worth of difference between any of the democrat candidates. They have pretty much the same message. As for sex in the oval office.... Why not have an orgy? but not with Hillary
She does not appeal to you at a sexual level then I take it
Yes, I have seen from your other posts that you are a repub. I have never been and won't. I have seen too many racists join the bandwagon for the repubs. I also was raised around those type of repubs and it is ugly to me. The bush type repubs. No offense of course. I have so little respect for our sitting pres, I can barely stand it. He is so incompetent. But that is my opinion. I will say when Hillary first started hinting at her possible running, I was not an advocate. But I have since began to have a slight understanding of her. Plus, she is a b*tch and I admire that....lol
Being a B*tch is not a qulification to be president. She has very little experience but then, the same can be said for Obama. Hillary wants to socialize health care... Do you understand what this means? Government ran programs are crap. She says she will withdraw the troops in Iraq but she can't. She knows she can't. But that's what you want to hear... so she lies and you believe. Read this link to understand why she can not withdraw the troops in Iraq. http://www.danielpipes.org/comments/24898 Bottom line, withdrawl from Iraq would be political suicide and you know she wants a second term. Give me a better reason than what you've already stated for voting for Hillary. Just being a woman, or to quote you, a B*tch, is not a logical reason. Respectfully to: Dragoness
I stated earlier, I reviewed her voting record in congress and she stands for alot of my personal beliefs and perspectives. I very rarely go on what they say, I look at voting records, I look for actions. I did not agree with some of her votes though but one cannot find a perfect fit. As for Iraq, we will be withdrawing now or later. It is only a matter of time before the black hole there sucks us dry of money and lives. We (at least some of us) understood that region of the world and what would happen if we went there before the war but noone would listen to us. Now we are stuck in the mire of a civil dispute that will not be resolved. We have no place democracizing other nations. They did not ask to be "democracized" by us in the first place. Thanks Dragoness couldn't figure out how to put it in words, you did it beautifully. |
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Edited by
Dragoness
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Wed 01/23/08 10:52 AM
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Thanks Dragoness couldn't figure out how to put it in words, you did it beautifully.
Your welcome
They will be back though. Their hatred of her is ingrained deep. Also there are many who still believe all the bull used to promote the war there. My only question to them is WHERE THE HELL IS BIN LADEN??????? That is the only question that should be answered. He did 9/11 right? Saddam paid for 9/11 with his life, Iraq has paid with their blood but where the hell is bin laden? |
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YEA,SHE SEEMS SINCERE ABOUT HER EMOTIONS. ITS JUST WIERD HAVING A LADY POSIBLY BECOMING OUR PRESIDENT. BUT,BILL C. WAS A GREAT PRESIDENT! IF SHE WINS,I HOPE SHE'LL BE GREAT TOO. If by great you mean, drive the country into an economic crap hole, loose all credibililty in the world, and make a mockery of the constitution, then yea. The best work clinton did was left on a red dress. |
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YEA,SHE SEEMS SINCERE ABOUT HER EMOTIONS. ITS JUST WIERD HAVING A LADY POSIBLY BECOMING OUR PRESIDENT. BUT,BILL C. WAS A GREAT PRESIDENT! IF SHE WINS,I HOPE SHE'LL BE GREAT TOO. If by great you mean, drive the country into an economic crap hole, loose all credibililty in the world, and make a mockery of the constitution, then yea. The best work clinton did was left on a red dress. Umm no buddy I think you are wrong. I am not going to even this debate this becuse you have no clue. The economy was in great shape we had respect around the world. A bj is a bj nothing unconstitutional about that. Bush has violated the constitution six times. Clinton 0. |
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oh please.. just because she cried does not mean anything except she's not (wo)man enough to be president. she flip flops on important issues- like immigration. i HATE hillary more then life itself. edit: bill was a crappy president. he made many stupid mistakes.. HELLO he was impeached! and his personal life issues have nothing to do with me not liking him- it's that he just wasted everyones time. Reagan was an amazing president- we need someone like him in office asap. Where do you get your information? Bill Clinton did more for this country than the presidents before him and after him. By the way, he was not impeached. And Hilary, was a proponent for great change in health care and many other issues, if you are a woman and don't know what Hilary has and will do for woman's issues, I suggest you read up and read up quick. |
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If by great you mean, drive the country into an economic crap hole, loose all credibililty in the world, and make a mockery of the constitution, then yea. If that's the case, nothing will change *shrug* |
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Where do you get your information? Bill Clinton did more for this country than the presidents before him and after him. By the way, he was not impeached. Really? So he did more than Lincoln who reunited the country after civil war and freed the slaves? What about Washington who actually fought for our countries freedom. What about Jefferson who ,by way of the Louisiana purchase, doubled the size of our great nation. I think you have your facts mixed up. |
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