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Topic: immigrants fair or unfair
mrtxstar Joined Sun 12/30/07 Posts: 436	Wed 01/09/08 08:54 PM
I don't feel like adding a serious point to the topic, I have debated this so many times over. ditto

Fade2Black Joined Mon 10/08/07 Posts: 50752	Thu 01/10/08 04:46 AM
mrtxstar asked if we had his vote. well, not mine .. but heck Dave does Well.. thank you for your support! Unfortunately that would never happen. Not in my lifetime anyway. Anyone who is solution oriented in this will never hold office, let alone be on a ballot. The Good 'ol Boys club will never allow it. It simply does not make 'business' sense. The walls, laws, playing on prejudices of our population, manifesting divisions in our streets... All that, in its impracticality and ineffectiveness does. At least in the short term. I'm sure that at some point 'We the People' will have enough of being played.. but we aren't any where close yet. Maybe when our economy and living conditions are more like the third world peoples we are trying so hard to keep out... We will have had enough. By then.. the only thing we will be throwing over the border will be ~ Politicians, legislators, lawyers and Corporate Presidents... by gun point. Fortunately we will have a really cool wall to keep them out. Unfortunately I have to agree with that .. no one really WANTS solutions. The problems are what keep people in reverse instead of fourth gear forward. sigh

Fade2Black Joined Mon 10/08/07 Posts: 50752	Thu 01/10/08 04:47 AM
Just put mines on the border, they are extremely cheap. Make sure to put a sign in Spanish and English, just in case they can actually speak English, and that SHOULD deter people from trying to cross the border. However, if someone is actually able to get past the minefield and enter the country then they should be given citizenship because that took some serious balls to get through a minefield to live here. lol, I'm kidding, almost completely :D I don't feel like adding a serious point to the topic, I have debated this so many times over. hmmmmmmmmmm sounds like it might work

daniel48706 Joined Fri 03/16/07 Posts: 8566	Thu 01/10/08 06:54 AM
Just put mines on the border, they are extremely cheap. Make sure to put a sign in Spanish and English, just in case they can actually speak English, and that SHOULD deter people from trying to cross the border. However, if someone is actually able to get past the minefield and enter the country then they should be given citizenship because that took some serious balls to get through a minefield to live here. lol, I'm kidding, almost completely :D I don't feel like adding a serious point to the topic, I have debated this so many times over. hmmmmmmmmmm sounds like it might work Has anyone here ever seen what a mine can do to a person? and if so, now think about the fact that people are walking across this area with their CHILDREN. I agree with using force to keep illegals out, dont get me wrong, but NOT ON CHILDREN

toastedoranges Joined Thu 01/03/08 Posts: 11042	Thu 01/10/08 07:30 AM
Immigrants taking your job??? As far as i know they come here to take a Chance of the opportunities So if they take a job is cuz YOU don't want it Plain and simple ... They DO pay taxes they pay SOME taxes

toastedoranges Joined Thu 01/03/08 Posts: 11042	Thu 01/10/08 07:32 AM
you know, those wanting amnesty for illegals are in the minority and there's a reason for that.

Fanta46 Joined Sat 11/11/06 Posts: 29361	Thu 01/10/08 09:10 AM
Come on Jess! Dont be scared.............

SharpShooter10 Joined Tue 11/20/07 Posts: 11271	Thu 01/10/08 10:29 AM Edited by SharpShooter10 on Thu 01/10/08 10:31 AM
it's inexcusable to have a problem with illegals. The process for entering the country could be expedited, Fences can be built, come on, its politicians, that we elect with their heads up their fourth point of contact that cant get the job done. I mean, come on. you can get a loan, a credit card, a criminal history background check instantly. I don't hate em, and I would probably try to be coming here as well if I were in their shoes, however, I dont want them here, it is a dangerous security risk for the country, we can't just stroll on into another country just because we want to and it angers me that so many enter ours illegally. I am mostly upset with our beauracrats and politicians, Republicans, Democrat, Independent, green party, it doesn't matter, none of them have been able to effectively address the problem, thats sad. Their favorite phrase is "We can't do" when it should be, must be,"We CAN and We WILL Do". Our governmet is giving lame excuses,yet if they want something from you, I assure you , excuses would not be accepted. VOTE,VOTE,VOTE

Chazster Joined Tue 08/28/07 Posts: 6206	Thu 01/10/08 11:08 AM Edited by Chazster on Thu 01/10/08 11:09 AM
anyone that does not want to integrate needs to be booted. too many people live here and pump up their culture over america's. America is the melting pot of cultures, so what are you talking about here? English language, the great illegitimate fear of English not being our "official language"? You will never need to worry about that. Other countries have people speaking all kinds of languages. It is encouraged. Other languages make people more global and in this world, the more global the better. The up and coming especially need to keep this in consideration. If they hold to their traditions and language it only makes it harder on them here so why is it a worry of others? Yes they do, but if you can't use a language that allows you to be involved in a society then you can't really add anything to that society. I personally think that english should be the national language just so that they can pass immigrations laws with that in mind. The educated people that come here from other countries almost always already know the language. I would rather our country use its immigration slots to bring in skilled workers such as doctors, engineers, etc. then non skilled minimum wage workers. I also don't like the laws that allow illegal immigrants to have a child in the states and that child is an American Citizen. I don't think it matters though. A large majority of the country has problems with illegal immigration yet our Congress does nothing about. That just shows that they no longer represent the people.

cosmoisin Joined Mon 12/31/07 Posts: 97	Thu 01/10/08 03:03 PM
Immagration is Fair, LOOTING IS UNFAIR... You have to see from Both Sides of The Border to understand... On the one hand, Americans are seen as soft and stupid and you must admit that we are... On the other hand,The Bronks that Crash our Borders are not greatly educated,they are here TO GET everything they can... NOW SEE MEXICO AS IT REALLY IS, A ONE WAY VALVE... We Americans are free to go down there and spend our MONEY,The Poor Mexican Bronks are free to come up to The USA and take our money, But The USA is not making any money in Mexico... As I said, IMMAGRATION IS FAIR, BUT LOOTING IS NOT FAIR... Fill out your papers, wait for your Visa,go to The USA apply for a Green Card,Get a Job... Immagration by The Numbers is Fair, running accross the border and Looting all you can and running back is NOT FAIR !!! MEXICAN IMAGRATION LAW IS CLEAR, you crash into Mexico,you go to a mexican JAIL... What part of that did you not understand ???