Topic: Western Countries Conspiring Against Russia?
Jaan Doh 's photo
Sun 03/03/24 04:31 PM
Edited by Jaan Doh on Sun 03/03/24 04:33 PM
Do you think that while supporting Ukraine against Russia, the west is also secretly Conspiring against Russia?

With reference to this news
www.msn.com/en-gb/news/world/germany-spills-british-military-secrets-to-russia/ar-BB1jgxEm?cvid=9f36a714295b4667801c4b902689c4eb&ei=10

And after Russia falls, China will be next in line?


Rock's photo
Sun 03/03/24 08:51 PM
In chaos, there is profit.
Russia won't fall. Ukraine won't fall.
The west won't fall.

Mortman's photo
Sun 03/03/24 09:19 PM
Secretly conspiring? I don't know how secret you think it is, but they're not being too secret about their intentions. The West wants Russia out of Ukraine, and is working to get ammunition and weapons to Ukraine. The West doesn't want to take down Russia any further than that, despite what Putin or Medvedev say. Russia is dangerous, but a collapsed Russia is dangerous and unpredictable.

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Sun 03/03/24 11:12 PM
There might be an issue of secrecy here regarding whether there are any NATO troops inside Ukraine.

Jaan Doh 's photo
Mon 03/04/24 02:10 AM
Well thank you all for that reassurance...

When you put it all together, it makes sense...

The profit from the chaos, the wanting Russia out of Ukraine, the need to get weapons to Ukraine undected, and the lapse of security in using unsecured phone lines...


Slim gym 's photo
Mon 03/04/24 01:47 PM
Never mind the secret or open secret about Russia , China etc etc, I think someone or something is trying to take down USA .... from the inside at that .... look at the chaos inside the USA ..... facing the same in Canada ..... just saying !!!!!

Jim's photo
Wed 03/06/24 06:26 AM
Do you think that while supporting Ukraine against Russia, the west is also secretly Conspiring against Russia?

With reference to this news
www.msn.com/en-gb/news/world/germany-spills-british-military-secrets-to-russia/ar-BB1jgxEm?cvid=9f36a714295b4667801c4b902689c4eb&ei=10

And after Russia falls, China will be next in line?

actually they did. but not boycotting Russian oil,instead continue buys from them that's indirectly supporting Russia against Ukraine. that's the hypocrisy of the west.

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Wed 03/06/24 08:26 AM
Edited by Farid on Wed 03/06/24 08:33 AM

... but not boycotting Russian oil,instead continue buys from them that's indirectly supporting Russia against Ukraine. that's the hypocrisy of the west.

If not entirely, most of the crude or refined Russian oil which is reaching the West, gets through sanction's loopholes.

Jaan Doh 's photo
Wed 03/06/24 12:09 PM

Never mind the secret or open secret about Russia , China etc etc, I think someone or something is trying to take down USA .... from the inside at that .... look at the chaos inside the USA ..... facing the same in Canada ..... just saying !!!!!


I didn't know or think that, but I'll keep an eye on future news..

I did always think (and still do) that the various agencies in usa work against each other, like cia fbi dea etc...

Jaan Doh 's photo
Wed 03/06/24 12:15 PM

Do you think that while supporting Ukraine against Russia, the west is also secretly Conspiring against Russia?

With reference to this news
www.msn.com/en-gb/news/world/germany-spills-british-military-secrets-to-russia/ar-BB1jgxEm?cvid=9f36a714295b4667801c4b902689c4eb&ei=10

And after Russia falls, China will be next in line?

actually they did. but not boycotting Russian oil,instead continue buys from them that's indirectly supporting Russia against Ukraine. that's the hypocrisy of the west.


I hear you, was the same here during covid with Boris (the clown), he gave all his chums upto 26M pound contracts for covid gear (masks etc) which never materialised, and the ruling party (Conservatives) advised everyone daily, to isolate if they so much as farted, put limits on numbers at weddings/funerals (maximum 3 guests) while all time partying on down, behind the closed doors of downing street.... :rolling_eyes:

Slimme's photo
Thu 03/07/24 06:38 AM

There might be an issue of secrecy here regarding whether there are any NATO troops inside Ukraine.



Also US special forces...

Slimme's photo
Thu 03/21/24 10:37 AM
Special forces are ususally the first to go into a war zone so it wouldn't surprised me that UK and US SF are there already.... but this leak means regular british troops are on Ukraine soil also.

When NATO sent its troops (officially) to Ukraine, that will not go down well with Russia.



https://youtu.be/lDPyrQUJr1I?si=_7OJ5d-yWcWNsrIL

Mortman's photo
Thu 03/21/24 10:48 AM
Special forces are ususally the first to go into a war zone so it wouldn't surprised me that UK and US SF are there already.... but this leak means regular british troops are on Ukraine soil also.

When NATO sent its troops (officially) to Ukraine, that will not go down well with Russia.



https://youtu.be/lDPyrQUJr1I?si=_7OJ5d-yWcWNsrIL


Both Russia and Ukraine welcomed foreign troops to come help them, but there are no official US or British troop deployments to Ukraine. Any such people there are serving as regular Ukraine militia. I know some Ukrainians in the US Army, so it wouldn't surprise me if someone like them went to Ukraine to notionally fight with the Ukraine forces, but secretly act as US military advisers. The war in Ukraine is a huge military intelligence gold mine.

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Fri 03/22/24 09:39 AM
It's not a secret. It's pretty much fact lol

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Fri 03/22/24 09:40 AM

Special forces are ususally the first to go into a war zone so it wouldn't surprised me that UK and US SF are there already.... but this leak means regular british troops are on Ukraine soil also.

When NATO sent its troops (officially) to Ukraine, that will not go down well with Russia.



https://youtu.be/lDPyrQUJr1I?si=_7OJ5d-yWcWNsrIL


Both Russia and Ukraine welcomed foreign troops to come help them, but there are no official US or British troop deployments to Ukraine. Any such people there are serving as regular Ukraine militia. I know some Ukrainians in the US Army, so it wouldn't surprise me if someone like them went to Ukraine to notionally fight with the Ukraine forces, but secretly act as US military advisers. The war in Ukraine is a huge military intelligence gold mine.

Ukraine has been hurting Russia bad lately. Hitting targets with accuracy and devastating effect. Guarenteed that's with help from us special forces.

Slimme's photo
Mon 03/25/24 06:17 AM
France urging NATO to send troops to Ukraine


https://youtu.be/fMa44kEMxko?si=RijpmD7y6I0Mmdu9


France whose feelings have been hurt by Russia believe the best way to avenge Russia is to start a global conflict.


What a spoilt brat.