Topic: Murder in the name of Ala
iMacWayneO's photo
Thu 12/27/07 09:04 AM
I am deeply Saddened by the Murder of Mrs Butto in Pakistan. It hurts to see that region and all Muslim countrys fighting amung themselves like 3 year old childern.
What is the problem here?, Can't they and rest of the world see the problem with the Muslim Faith? You can say "It's not all Muslim's that practice terrorism in the name of Ala" but so far all the terrorism has been the through Muslim faith, and no one of the faith condems the evil acts No One! I'm Ashamed to be on the same planet with people of Murder, Hate, and Death in the name of some Bozo, Knothead GOD the named "ALA" So far it seems He must have been (If indeed he even exsisted) a very Conceeded, Hateful, aberition tool of Hell.

lilith401's photo
Thu 12/27/07 09:10 AM
Ummm, it's Allah.

Try to think of it this way. You only hear about the plane crashes on the news, right? When was the last time you heard about the thousands of flights that land safely? About the children who were not abducted?

Or this way... What do you think Muslims hear about us? Waco? Jim Jones? All the Petersons? OJ? The Patriot Act?

The perspectives we have are there for a reason. There is no problem with the Muslim faith, any more than there is a problem with Christianity. You're talking about extremists and extrapolating that into a generalization.

You're being ETHNOCENTRIC.

azrae1l's photo
Thu 12/27/07 09:16 AM
granted there is a lot of fighting over there but it's not all bad. and you might wanna read up on islam before you make those claims, the islam god is the same person as the christian god.

muslims are just like everybody else in the world, there's good and bad in all of them. you only hear about it more cuz of the "war" and they really have no government structure in a lot of those areas.

but thats doesn't mean they all are evil monsters hell bent of the destruction of us perfect innoocent americans who do no wrong........

Mcats3's photo
Thu 12/27/07 09:17 AM
Edited by Mcats3 on Thu 12/27/07 09:17 AM
Allah Means God. What the Muslims forgot was Christ himself.God has many names and which all mean god.But you can't forget his son. Not all Muslims are the same. Not all of them kill themselfs in the name of Allah. Some have forgotten and were told wrong about what god wants us to do. brokenheart

parttime_vikingfan's photo
Thu 12/27/07 09:19 AM
First let me say that I am not condoning what terrorists do. Have you ever heard of Manifest Destiny? It basically meant that we had the right to expand to the west coast, for what ever reason we wanted. How about what we did to the Native Americans? There are 1,000s of movies seen all over the world of us killing off the people who owned this land before we got here. To top it off, most of the barbarian acts that we have done was in the name of God. Its time to take a look in the mirror.

PhoenixRisingNC's photo
Thu 12/27/07 09:20 AM
I'm sorry you feel that way, but I have known several muslim's that I would be grateful to call my friends, as well as pagan's christian's, jew's and people of just about any other faith. There are extremists everywhere and from every faith, and throughout history more human atrocities have been carried out in the name of the Almighty be it God, Allah or any other than for any other single reason. So the problem is not faith... but extremism, which is a whole different topic in how it is bred and festers that I won't go into here. Milan

Turtlepoet78's photo
Thu 12/27/07 09:31 AM
As has been said, Allah is the arabic word meaning God which derives from the sumerian Alla which also means God. Let's not forget about protestant extremists who protest soldiers funerals and bomb abortion clinics, extremism is not exclusive to the muslim population. Also, there are muslims standing against the extremism, just because you don't see them doesn't mean they aren't there. Remember, muslims are cousins to us christians and our differances aren't really that great;^]

iMacWayneO's photo
Thu 12/27/07 09:31 AM
Thank you all, for your thoughts and I agree I went over the top a bit. I want everyone one to know that is not easy to write or comment on such a topic and not be biest to one side or the other (Media please take note) espessialy when one does not know the religion thru and thru, for this I appoligize. However the Muslim Comunity in this country as well as the world needs to take a MAJOR stand on the good thier faith is,and they need to be media savy as well. Maybe then will it get better.

no photo
Thu 12/27/07 09:33 AM

I am deeply Saddened by the Murder of Mrs Butto in Pakistan. It hurts to see that region and all Muslim countrys fighting amung themselves like 3 year old childern.
What is the problem here?, Can't they and rest of the world see the problem with the Muslim Faith? You can say "It's not all Muslim's that practice terrorism in the name of Ala" but so far all the terrorism has been the through Muslim faith, and no one of the faith condems the evil acts No One! I'm Ashamed to be on the same planet with people of Murder, Hate, and Death in the name of some Bozo, Knothead GOD the named "ALA" So far it seems He must have been (If indeed he even exsisted) a very Conceeded, Hateful, aberition tool of Hell.



Ummm hello!!!???? Ever read a little book called the BIBLE??? (NOT being "religous" here).. but people of that region have been fighting since the beginning of FREAKIN TIME!!!

I grew up hearing CONSTANT conflicts in the middle east. ANYONE GOT A CLUE!!!???

NOTHING and I mean ABSOLUTELY NOTHING is going to STOP the fight there! PERIOD! When we FINMALLY get our troops out of there, you think "peace: will occur? If you do, then you're an IDIOT!

The "proof is in the pudding"! All the WORDS in the WORLD won't help. They will FIGHT til the END OF TIME in that region.

You can "wish" in one hand and crap in the other..let us know which one fills up first (for those of you who don;t know what that term means...it means what is REALITY is what you have to deal with! Hopes and drsams are good things to have, but REALITY is what you MUST deal with".

So such an even like this is not at all surprising.

LCBart's photo
Thu 12/27/07 09:34 AM
There are two possible perpetrators of this act. One of them would be Islamic fanatics. The other, and this quite possible taking into account his past record, would be our ally, Pakistani President Pervez Musharraf. There are parliamentary elections coming on January 8th in Pakistan, and don't think for a minute that he won't take whatever steps deemed necessary to hold on to power.
The fact that you attribute all terrorism to Muslims shows a very narrow viewpoint of the world. While there are certainly many fanatical Muslims who are indeed perpetrating acts of terrorism, they had very good teachers. Ever heard of the Irish Republican Army? The Ku Klux Klan? The Army of God? The Kurdistan Workers Party (PKK)?

Turtlepoet78's photo
Thu 12/27/07 09:34 AM
Muslims are already taking a stand and have been doing so for quite some time, don't blame them blame the media for not reporting it;^]

http://www.freemuslims.org/

Robm248's photo
Thu 12/27/07 09:36 AM
I hate to bring this up, but most of the barbarian acts that people have done have been because of their own motivations. God is an excuse for most such people, not a reason. However, there are other excuses as well, including that Manifest Destiny.
What it really boils down to is that some people in this world do not care about others, only themselves. It's not extremism, or god, or some policy or the other that is the problem.
Let's not blame anything other than the people who commit these acts. Please.

robinlynn42's photo
Fri 01/04/08 11:33 PM
the media basically reports sensational news,that's what sells. u have the right to pick what u want to see,hear and make a buying decsion from that. one of the reasons for so many advertisers.

Belushi's photo
Sat 01/05/08 01:30 AM
Musharraf was going to lose his seat to Bhutto (he still is .. to her son)

So, she had to go ...

Simple dictatorial politics.

After all, he was at the seat of the 1999 military coup. you think he is above a little sneaky behaviour after all that.

The elections are now put back until February .. if they ever happen.

There will be more bloodshed in the name of politics, and this time it will have only a miniscule amount to do with religion.

Civil war on the horizon.
.. and they have nuclear capability
[ponders] Wonder where they got that from?

no photo
Sat 01/05/08 07:47 AM
iMac..... I see where you are coming from. Here is the reality ....

While it may be true – and probably is – that not all Muslims are terrorists, it also happens to be true that nearly all terrorists are Muslim.


Additionally, I fall into that category of never having heard a Muslim group denounce terrorism. That factor probably comes into play, because I read somewhere, don't know if it is fact or fiction, that one in every four Muslims sympathizes with terrorists and their actions.

mrtxstar's photo
Sat 01/05/08 11:27 AM
Edited by mrtxstar on Sat 01/05/08 11:28 AM
Not all terrorists are muslim, for example... Oklahoma city. If you are not aware of any muslim groups against terrorists then you are spending too much time getting your information from the wrong sources. CNN had a show on call "Banned on PBS, muslims against jihad". Didn't see it? Glenn Beck on CNN has invited many muslims on his show that protest terrorists. The message is out there.