Topic: Now in the Supreme Court
jaish's photo
Mon 11/09/20 06:53 AM
Edited by jaish on Mon 11/09/20 07:22 AM

It is in the powers of the Supreme Court to investigate the Election Processes for reasons beyond evidences filed by a political party (in this case the Republicans) if something extraordinary is present and self evident (smells like a rat). In the 2020 elections one or more of the following may be deemed as extraordinary evidences and the Court deems it necessary to satisfy itself in the interest of National Justice.

1. It is Media’s business to report state-wise official ballot count. It is not Media’s business to decide the Call. This is Election Interference, as it dissuades remaining voters from casting their votes once the unofficial call has been announced. This is clear and evident in swing states, particularly in Penn.

2. Ballots received by Mail cannot be overwhelmingly in favor of one candidate, as in certain counties, 100%. It is against statistics.

3. Nevada’s rule of 30 day residency in that State making the resident eligible for vote while not striking off the citizen from the roster in the state he was previously registered to vote – makes it double jeopardy.

4. As software glitch in counting Ballots marked for Trump as that for Biden has been admitted to by a County official in Michigan, it is the concern of the SC to enquire whether software used in all other states have been accredited by the Election Commission and if so, why has it failed in one particular case.

Advisory to Media All media channels are hereby advised to disband their Decision Desk forthwith and hold off from further opining and complicating matters till this Court has arrived at its conclusions.

This advisory includes ...

jaish's photo
Mon 11/09/20 07:31 AM
The above is not Solomon's wisdom, just commonsense.

Tom4Uhere's photo
Mon 11/09/20 08:05 AM
See:
http://constitution.congress.gov/constitution/

jaish's photo
Mon 11/09/20 08:29 AM
Edited by jaish on Mon 11/09/20 08:51 AM
Thanks Tom, but you do realize that the fundamentals in the Indian Constitution are copied from US'and that precedence in US Courts are considered in Indian Courts.

Here on occasion, Court may take initiative in public interest against a government official or office even when there is no person or party filing a case.

Excellent reading material though. I've a copy of Rights of Man - will be interesting to see if & where there's a match.





Tom4Uhere's photo
Mon 11/09/20 08:58 AM
Yeah, I thought you might find it interesting to see a comparison.

jaish's photo
Wed 11/11/20 12:28 AM
Edited by jaish on Wed 11/11/20 12:43 AM
For those who are unconvinced about influence of American political behavior on India here is today's an excerpt from the ongoing Bihar State election.



Election Commission asserted that the counting process has been completely glitch free and dismissed the oft-repeated charge of any tampering of EVMs.


When the initial vote count was in favor of the socialists (RJD) they asserted complete faith in the EVMs. As the final count began to go against them, they began to allege tampering.

https://www.outlookindia.com/website/story/india-news-ec-dismisses-rjd-cong-allegations-says-not-under-anyones-pressure/364038

The difference is, the Indian Election Commission is a federal (central) level institution that conducts state and national elections.

Our political parties often complain about misuse of official machinery by candidates - but so far, nothing on the grand scale.


The commission is empowered with prohibiting dissemination or publication of voting trends that seek to influence voters by opinion polls or exit polls





mysticalview21's photo
Fri 11/13/20 02:42 PM
First very happy about Biden and Kamala win ...

I heard a couple of things today ... second ... the President said new Vaccine
from pfizer came from warp speed ... so says he ... but looking up 1 fact ck says ... read an let you decide ... but still happy about Biden an Kamala

is Fake news about the corona virus can do real harm. Polygraph.info is spotlighting fact-checks from other reliable sources here​.​
Daily Debunk

Claim: The research and development of Pfizer COVID-19 vaccine, which was proven to be 90% effective against SARS-CoV-2 in November 2020, was funded by U.S. President Donald Trump’s Operation Warp Speed.

Verdict: False -> https://www.voanews.com/covid-19-pandemic/infodemic/infodemic-pfizer-covid-19-vaccine-wasnt-part-warp-speed-program

________________________

and then this along with no job growth since Jan...only ones that went back to work our the ones ...that may have been lay offs from the Virus ...
and hopefully the vaccines work ... but again will not know much till after the beginning of the yr... also hear say...they have to make sure they do have enough for two vaccines ... and I would like to say that those telling those that are sick they need to get back to work ... is not helping heal anything ...


Covid-19: Pandemic Shatters More Records in U.S., as States and Cities Tighten Restrictions

jaish's photo
Fri 11/13/20 06:51 PM
Edited by jaish on Fri 11/13/20 06:53 PM

First very happy about Biden and Kamala win ...

I heard a couple of things today ... second ... the President said new Vaccine
from pfizer came from warp speed ... so says he ... but looking up 1 fact ck says ... read an let you decide ... but still happy about Biden an Kamala

is Fake news about the corona virus can do real harm. Polygraph.info is spotlighting fact-checks from other reliable sources here​.​
Daily Debunk

Claim: The research and development of Pfizer COVID-19 vaccine, which was proven to be 90% effective against SARS-CoV-2 in November 2020, was funded by U.S. President Donald Trump’s Operation Warp Speed.

Verdict: False -> https://www.voanews.com/covid-19-pandemic/infodemic/infodemic-pfizer-covid-19-vaccine-wasnt-part-warp-speed-program

________________________

and then this along with no job growth since Jan...only ones that went back to work our the ones ...that may have been lay offs from the Virus ...
and hopefully the vaccines work ... but again will not know much till after the beginning of the yr... also hear say...they have to make sure they do have enough for two vaccines ... and I would like to say that those telling those that are sick they need to get back to work ... is not helping heal anything ...


Covid-19: Pandemic Shatters More Records in U.S., as States and Cities Tighten Restrictions


I think you are suggesting that Trump be tried for misinformation on Covid and mis-reporting on vaccines - that's a new thought :thumbsup:

As Justice has to be applied evenly - lower level executives - the state governors and city mayors - who defied President's initial edict on quarantine - will also have to be charged.

The Italian mayor of NYC - for example - stacking up bodies in containers on the bridges of NYC to NJ - all the while the bars drinks remained open - prime example.

Note: Barrack Obama may also have to be charged
Chinese Wuhan Virus Research Lab was funded some half a billion dollars during his tenure. He left behind no Control & Safety monitoring system. frustrated

It's like selling F15s to Pakistan without GPS. The planes get lost - keep wandering in and out of neighboring territories.


jaish's photo
Sun 11/15/20 04:20 AM
Edited by jaish on Sun 11/15/20 04:32 AM

Dominion Software - Subsidiary of Diebold failed in Texas used in Penn

As we aggregate information on whether

1. voter fraud occurred through software?
2. voter fraud is possible? (in future)

Based on Vinane's post on the use of Dominion Software in Penn. (posted in the Bidden as President thread) here is additional info


It is relevant to note that:
Dominion Software failed to receive certification in Texas in 2019

https://www.sos.texas.gov/elections/forms/sysexam/oct2019-sneeringer.pdf

The report is titled: Voting System Examination - Dominion Voting Systems -

Prepared for: Secretary of State of Texas

Submitted by: James Sneeringer, Ph.D.
Designee of the Attorney General

-----xxxxxxxxxxxxxx-------------------------------


For those interested: In their website Diebold has not given any investigative information on 'Voter Fraud' but referred media to County Officials

What is termed as 'Circular Reporting' -- https://www.dominionvoting.com

1. Diebold has referred to statements by Pennsylvania county officials to support their claim.

2. All mainstream media has clamored around Diebold's statement.

(As you may know, whether Biden runs the USA / World or Trump does - is your internal matter. My focus is limited to whether Media has taken control of our worlds.

jaish's photo
Sun 11/15/20 04:30 AM
Edited by jaish on Sun 11/15/20 04:33 AM
To understand wht Dominion Software failed to pursue certification in Texas
here is Profiling of Diebold / Dominion

Diebold is solution provider for: ATM machines, Point of Sales & Security Access Control card systems. EVMs is a new service

Unlike most s/w companies, it is headquartered in NYC

Based on my experience with Diebold - they are more a systems integrator firm
i.e., they buy off-the-shelf software & hardware components
and don't carry a dedicated software team.

In other words, if there is a software glitch - they are dependent on third party to resolve & this takes time.


Toodygirl5's photo
Sun 11/15/20 08:12 AM
Edited by Toodygirl5 on Sun 11/15/20 08:13 AM
Demos haven't got a clue of the real problems
in America it's not Trump.

The Radical Left hope is to make this country
Communist.

That's not going to happen, anytime soon if at all.



bobtail76's photo
Sun 11/15/20 08:31 AM

To understand wht Dominion Software failed to pursue certification in Texas
here is Profiling of Diebold / Dominion

Diebold is solution provider for: ATM machines, Point of Sales & Security Access Control card systems. EVMs is a new service

Unlike most s/w companies, it is headquartered in NYC

Based on my experience with Diebold - they are more a systems integrator firm
i.e., they buy off-the-shelf software & hardware components
and don't carry a dedicated software team.

In other words, if there is a software glitch - they are dependent on third party to resolve & this takes time.




There really isn't a reason for software to be counting votes. There is no monitoring of the counting when a computer program (which can be corrupted unnoticed) is doing the job where transparency is NECESSARY. Sure there will always be corrupt people that will do corrupt things - but when you display their actions in front of more eye's, the likelihood of getting caught is much higher, which allows people to put more faith into the process.

If people were voting in both World Wars, Coronavirus shouldn't be an excuse to circumvent processes to keep elections on the straight and narrow.

jaish's photo
Sun 11/15/20 01:59 PM


1. There really isn't a reason for software to be counting votes.

2. There is no monitoring of the counting when a computer program (which can be corrupted unnoticed) is doing the job where transparency is NECESSARY.


:thumbsup:

Normal process (???) - Software Count followed by Sample Manual Audit

Optionally:
Instead of Manual Audit - Soft Audit from competitor's software

The soft audit option - may also have high initial costs


Costs
Georgia (I think) paid $180 million to Dominion (180 x 24 states = 4 billion)


Reuters: Dominion Voting Systems was used in at least 24 states in November 2020, not only the five states where Trump has filed lawsuits


When it comes to software systems Reuters has no clue on what they are talking about - most basic of basics being: software can be manipulated over the net.






bobtail76's photo
Sun 11/15/20 02:09 PM



1. There really isn't a reason for software to be counting votes.

2. There is no monitoring of the counting when a computer program (which can be corrupted unnoticed) is doing the job where transparency is NECESSARY.


:thumbsup:

Normal process (???) - Software Count followed by Sample Manual Audit

Optionally:
Instead of Manual Audit - Soft Audit from competitor's software

The soft audit option - may also have high initial costs


Costs
Georgia (I think) paid $180 million to Dominion (180 x 24 states = 4 billion)


Reuters: Dominion Voting Systems was used in at least 24 states in November 2020, not only the five states where Trump has filed lawsuits


When it comes to software systems Reuters has no clue on what they are talking about - most basic of basics being: software can be manipulated over the net.








Competitor's software is just as corruptible as the one tendered. No software, PERIOD.

jaish's photo
Sun 11/15/20 02:37 PM

Demos haven't got a clue of the real problems
in America it's not Trump.

The Radical Left hope is to make this country
Communist.

That's not going to happen, anytime soon if at all.



From socialism to State Control by the elites is a short step.
It probably began around the time when

Edward Snowden leaked NSA files on Mass Surveillance of US citizens
(China has a simpler system. You pay or receive through facial recognition.
No cash transactions)




jaish's photo
Tue 11/17/20 08:26 PM

Trump has a strong case pending in the U.S. Supreme Court.

Trump and the Republican Party of Pennsylvania have challenged the vote in Penn. on the grounds that the Pennsylvania Supreme Court unconstitutionally interfered with the state legislature’s sole authority over the time, place, and manner of federal elections and over the selection of presidential electors.
----xx

If the U.S. Constitution directly grants those powers to the legislature of Pennsylvania, state courts have no authority to alter state election law for federal office, including the presidency. As a result, the U.S. Supreme Court could strike down the extension of the Pennsylvania deadline to accept ballots until Friday and order the state to reject any ballots that arrived after Election Day on Tuesday.


This is not some constitutional flight of fancy.
SC Justice Samuel Alito: Pennsylvania Supreme Court has violated the U.S. Constitution by allowing mail-in ballots to be accepted until Friday.

Alito wrote: “The Supreme Court of Pennsylvania has issued a decree that squarely alters an important statutory provision enacted by the Pennsylvania Legislature pursuant to its authority under the Constitution of the United States to make rules governing the conduct of elections for federal office.”

Alto is joined by:
Justice Clarence Thomas
Justice Neil Gorsuch and
Justice Brett Kavanaugh

Opposing the above view are others including :

Chief Justice John Roberts who is Buffalo

Democrats and liberals have attacked the political legitimacy of the Supreme Court ever since Bush vs A Gore decision
--xx
If,
Justice Amy Coney Barrett
does not recluse herself from this case then
Supreme Court could intervene in Pennsylvania or from deciding in favor of invalidating all mail-in ballots that came in after Election Day.
--xx

All eyes on Justice Amy Coney Barrett.

Toodygirl5's photo
Wed 11/18/20 02:06 PM
Edited by Toodygirl5 on Wed 11/18/20 02:06 PM
At least Leftist will have a battle in Congress.
Their agenda won't go too smooth.

Once they actually get in the white house.

ivegotthegirth's photo
Wed 11/18/20 09:45 PM
rofl
rofl
rofl
rofl
rofl
rofl

Nice to see the Trump brain trust still in action!

slaphead

jaish's photo
Thu 11/19/20 12:34 AM

I readily admit that when this thread was started - intent was viewing SC as a life line for Trump. Now that sufficient time has passed and it seems even Republicans agree - the New President has a right and deserves an even chance, if not the best - from Day 1 in Office. Who knows, Biden Presidency may take the world to a deeper level of peace.

As far as the angst on the 'perceived irregularities in the election process'; that is also fading - since matters are in SC. This thread is limited to tracking SC rulings as it plays out.

Including questions like -
Whether Supreme Court has the jurisdiction to interfere in elections conducted by the States.

If so, whether SC has without evidences of large scale fraud - have any further basis to set aside ballot by mail - considering Covid.

Or, demand authentication of the 'ballots by mail'

Etc.

To summarize, SC's interpretation of the Federal Structure of the United States interests me - since in India we also have large states and find ourselves in a bind. I don't think any other country, except may be Australia - has a problem of this size. If they have, as they are small both in size and population - they have been called 'banana republic'.

jaish's photo
Mon 11/30/20 07:09 AM
Edited by jaish on Mon 11/30/20 07:11 AM

Jones Day, a venerable 127-year-old firm that boasts the likes of Walmart and General Motors among its clients, says, its client is the Pennsylvania Republican Party.


Jones Day’s statement also pushed back against the notion that the litigation it has filed is frivolous—noting that four Justices of the Supreme Court have expressed support for the Pennsylvania GOP’s position that the state’s decision to count ballots received after Election Day is unconstitutional.


My interests were not whether the mail ins were legal - but whether they were from actual Penn State voters in the first place. That's all.

Although I admit I would like to see the entire Nevada State machinery fill the prisons.