Topic: that's right
andreajayne's photo
Tue 12/25/07 08:03 AM

If she doesn't like kissing do you think you are ever going to change that? If this girl is not meeting your needs (both emotional and physical) then why do you hang on? Don't you feel you DESERVE to have what YOU need in a relationship? If you think this will change (unlikely) then hang in there... but I have my doubts.


Very good questions.

unsure's photo
Tue 12/25/07 08:19 AM
I would say that I have my doubts also that this whole situation is going to change. I also think that maybe something has happened to her and everytime you get close to her, all those memories start flooding back to her. I really think IF you stick this one out, you are going to have a very tough road ahead of you.
I myself, IF this was going on with me....I think I would just move on. If someone wouldn't even give me a kiss without feeling uncomfortable, I would have to question how hard is things going to be on down the road? I am a patient person, BUT I do not have the patience to wait a few years to deal with someone that doesn't seem to want to deal with their problems. Trust me, its going to take you a few years to get anywhere with this issue.
I say move on...save your own sanity because you are going to end up thinking its something that you are doing. You have been very patient and kind...but now its time to move on!!! I think this goes way deeper then anyone can really handle!!

stevenpwis's photo
Tue 12/25/07 02:43 PM
I was at my parents house, and everyone noticed I was very quiet and looked depressed, everyone kept asking me if I was ok. I told them I was fine, I felt awkward talking to my family about something like this. My mom finally got it out of me what was going on. She told me that I am always trying to make people happy, but I never get anything in return, which is true. I don't know, maybe I will move on, I have been way too patient just for a kiss.

stevenpwis's photo
Tue 12/25/07 03:32 PM
i guess i should break it off, back to looking for women again.

Kravynn's photo
Tue 12/25/07 03:44 PM
I just read through the thread. At 26 this seems a little odd, unless shes trying to ward you off. I jump at just about any chance to kiss someone. Its an incredible, personal way to say " I care" "Im thinking about you" or " I really want you" - Shoop Shopp its in his kiss...thats where it is. Sorry. Lil goofy tonight, and a bit of pent up tension I really need to release.

no photo
Tue 12/25/07 04:02 PM
noway noway Hey Steve,,,,,DUDE,,HELLO???
A month and a half DATING, and YOU TWO HAVE NOT EVEN HAD A PECK ON THE LIPS.
At 26 years old MALE or FEMALE, to KISS is like three dates. TOPS,,,,,FOUR DATES!!!!

So (let me get this stright)YOU "BOTH" haven't even KISSED YET, and SEX is EVEN IN YOUR SMALLEST THOUGHTS?????

I would right her off as NOT MY KIND OF GIRL and MOVE ON!


BUT,,,,,,I WOULD HAVE DONE ""DID THAT"" as soon as she had TOLD ME she was a VIRGIN.....

I've NEVER been with one,,,BECAUSE "THE GIRL" or "LADY" can FIND another MAN to start her down the painful feelings of LOVE and SEX,,,I have never wanted to be a chicks FIRST because,,,,,I"NEVER" had to do that. SO WHY????

I grew HEARING and HELPING ALL the women that GUYS had USED, so ,,,,WHY CROSS a LINE that YOU KNOW, is SOooooo
"POSSIBLY" HURTFUL to THAT WOMAN?

Just an experience I never WANTED to GET INVOLVED with!

So, WHY, are YOU trying so hard to get close to this women if all YOUR interest so far HERE is TELLING US she is a VIRGIN and DOESN'T like to KISS,,,,,

GEE,YA GOT GREAT THINGS TO TELL US ABOUT HER BEAUTY, HER PERSONALITY??????
You MAIN FOCUSS SEEMS to be ONLY SEXUAL?????


YOUR TURN????smokin

stevenpwis's photo
Tue 12/25/07 04:14 PM
I have talked about her personality, which is she makes me laugh, she is very smart, she listens to me, she is caring, there is so much more to her that I adore. The kiss is an important part of a relationship, that is why i bring it up.

no photo
Tue 12/25/07 04:27 PM
Ok, Steve, SORRY, I missed THAT!!

If YOU feel she is already a PART of your EVERYDAY thought, 10 to 20 times,lol Then your falling in love with her.
NOW, THATS BAD, because YOU and HER have some issues to TALKING,,,because YOU and HER should be close enough NOW to tell EACH OTHER your INNER most THOUGHTS.
aND then, you WOULD NOT HAVE TO ASK us?

bUT BECAUSE you AND her have not TALKED,
sorry, my caps locked,lol.
Two people FIRST """"HAVE TO"" be able to talk to each other BEFORE ANYTHING can GROW...

So if SHE is a VIRGIN, and HAS a ISSUE with KISSING.
Then SHE MAY have some GREAT INNER ISSUES that YOU will NOT CHANGE, she may have some very DEEP PROBLEMS that need professional help?
And to DEAL with it YOU and HER have to talk, and SEEK her HELP if she needs it or BOTH seek out a third party to OPENLY REVIEW ""BOTH"" of your opinions of each other and your experiences together...
BUT, if she has HIDDEN PROBLEMS, and you find that out,
YOU BETTER BE WILLING TO STAND BESIDE HER THROUGH IT.

Or YOU are JUST ANOTHER PERSON in her LIFE to ADD TO HER HURT!!!

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Tue 12/25/07 04:30 PM
i thought there was more importing things than a kiss. like the way you treat one anther

stevenpwis's photo
Tue 12/25/07 04:35 PM
yes, but a month and a half in, a kiss does say a lot

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Tue 12/25/07 04:38 PM
yes, but more important the kiss or the way you feel about echother and treat one anther

stevenpwis's photo
Tue 12/25/07 04:43 PM
I realize that, but what if you were with a woman for a year and you still haven't kissed her?

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Tue 12/25/07 04:47 PM
I would of been gon a long time ago. but I think if there not getting from me then where is she getting from. but thats just me

no photo
Tue 12/25/07 04:51 PM
Steve, im a REALIST,,,I COULDN'T BE "THAT" MAN.

I would never THINK I had a LADIES "LOVE" if WE NEVER EVEN KISSED!!!

If a lady has not kissed me or Me Her, by the 3rd or 4th date, IM TALKIN,,,,,ALOT,,,,about WHY??????????????????????????????

I HAVE GREAT PATIEANCE , but I have also GREAT COMMON SENSE!

But im older,,to....drinker

stevenpwis's photo
Tue 12/25/07 04:54 PM
Edited by stevenpwis on Tue 12/25/07 04:54 PM
but she says she has thought kissing was awkward for 10 years. Maybe something has happened to her? which i am going to ask her when I can get in touch with her.

unsure's photo
Tue 12/25/07 04:54 PM
You know, I agree..it is important about the way you treat each other. BUT all he wants is a kiss? Is that so bad?? I mean, I do not kiss on the first date...but they have been together for a month and a half, surely they have had more then one date?
It is very important to keep the lines of communication open and I don't think she is telling him a lot of things. I really think that if you like her, you need to talk to her and just ask her what is going on! Ask her what the big deal is with the kissing, find out if it goes further then what you think.
If you are getting depressed and your family is noticing...its time to do something. Being with someone is suppose to make you happy, its not suppose to make you depressed!! Never let someone bring you down and if they do, then you really need to re-evalute the relationship!!

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Tue 12/25/07 05:02 PM
yes you are right, so he just needs to deside if she is worth watting for. if she is and he pushes her than its likely he will just push her a way

stevenpwis's photo
Tue 12/25/07 05:37 PM
she just broke it off with me, she says I was the best person she has ever met and most romantic...She says she is asexual, she has no feelings or attraction to people. What a great Christmas.

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Tue 12/25/07 05:48 PM
:heart: Ok, Steve, FIRST. IF YOU want to know ANYBODY, you have to,,,,,HAVE TO, be open to talk to each other!!!

And if the OTHER is NOT willing, then just move on before you allow yourself to FEEL CLOSE to THEM.

THIS is NOT """ONLY"" her fault,,it's YOURS to..
Because YOU should have done took the time to MAKE a conversation towards "HOW" you were feeling..
NOT just let HER put YOU off, and PLAY YOU along...
It all STARTS with an open mind to see and hear about each other, and to have the ability to ASK each other ANY QUESTIONS, the OTHER has???

If any TWO people START with this communication up front.

THEN, and ONLY "THEN" can "THEY GROW" closer together as a future couple or even in just dating..:heart:

And DON'T dive into self pity.
Because she is the one who ALOS SHOULD HAVE TOLD YOU HER "TRUTH" UP FRONT!!

Just chalk it up as one of life's lessons and go on, to NEVER let this happen to you again...:wink: drinker smokin

stevenpwis's photo
Tue 12/25/07 05:57 PM
I don't like how I was led on like this