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So, tomorrow is the first General Election to be held in winter for about a hundred years and it's a crucial one. The result will determine the future direction of the UK for some considerable time. If the Conservative party under Boris Johnson wins a clear majority in Parliament, then we are out of the EU. If the Labour party under Jeremy Corbyn wins, then we'll remain in the EU despite the result of the referendum in 2016. Any other result, such as a hung Parliament and the Labour Party, Liberal Democrats and other remainders will undoubtedly work together to prevent the UK from leaving.
Get out and vote tomorrow for the future that you want to see. |
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Already done mine by post, just sick of the last three years of lies and treachery,if the referendum is not delivered this will be my last ever vote as it would appear worthless
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Already done mine by post, just sick of the last three years of lies and treachery,if the referendum is not delivered this will be my last ever vote as it would appear worthless That is the dilemma we face. No point in voting if it can be ignored and hence no Democracy. |
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Well let's keep our fingers crossed and pray for the right outcome!
I might end up being a close call, although I do not know the general feelings in the UK of course. |
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I've never voted
Unfortunately I've never thought any of them, are worth voting for They promise the same things, every time, and never deliver If they did deliver, it stands to reason, that they wouldn't be promising the same things, again. Plus then, they'll just put me on the electoral role, and sell my information to companies, even if I tick the, ' don't sell my information to companies' box |
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Whatever the result tomorrow, it's unlikely to repair the damage caused to our democracy over the last three or four years because around 50% of the electorate will still be deeply unhappy about the outcome.
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I've never voted Unfortunately I've never thought any of them, are worth voting for They promise the same things, every time, and never deliver If they did deliver, it stands to reason, that they wouldn't be promising the same things, again. Plus then, they'll just put me on the electoral role, and sell my information to companies, even if I tick the, ' don't sell my information to companies' box That type of thinking is why countries go down the drain as the ones you don't want in power at all usually have a strong support group who DO vote. Over here voting is anonymous so it won't give you BS afterwards either. No need for such a checkbox. Don't know if you got that over there, but here you can also vote blank if your not for any of the parties. That way your vote doesn't go to waste, making the ones most don't want get in power after all. I'm not sure how that works in the system, I do know it works. |
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I've never voted Unfortunately I've never thought any of them, are worth voting for They promise the same things, every time, and never deliver If they did deliver, it stands to reason, that they wouldn't be promising the same things, again. Plus then, they'll just put me on the electoral role, and sell my information to companies, even if I tick the, ' don't sell my information to companies' box That type of thinking is why countries go down the drain as the ones you don't want in power at all usually have a strong support group who DO vote. Over here voting is anonymous so it won't give you BS afterwards either. No need for such a checkbox. Don't know if you got that over there, but here you can also vote blank if your not for any of the parties. That way your vote doesn't go to waste, making the ones most don't want get in power after all. I'm not sure how that works in the system, I do know it works. I always used to say that if you don't vote, then you can't complain when they put you up against the wall and shoot you and in this case, I agree with sparkling crystal. Remember the saying: the only thing that evil requires to flourish is that good men do nothing. |
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Edited by
The Wrong Alice
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Wed 12/11/19 09:48 PM
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Yes, I know that saying
I'm from Leeds I told the police about Jimmy Saville And that I could take them to where he lived They did nothing As far as I know, there is no, I think your all rubbish box So how does voting for somebody, I don't believe in, help anything If you want to vote, that's your business I choose not to, for reasons I've explained I don't care to be pariahed for that The truth of the matter for me is If the majority, don't vote Then, they have spoken What then That's 1 of the reasons I don't think democracy works a lot of the time In essence, just 1 single vote, could get somebody in And then I could turn your logic on you. But I won't Who you voting for anyway, and why? Brexit now always seems linked to tax evasion by the top 5% , and the better the devil you know attitude As somebody said to me, ' I don't like conservatives or what goes on, but labour don't seem to have anything to replace it with' People seem to think Corbyn is such a hardcore socialist, that he's basically a communist, and that scares people So it's either him, or another of the Eton, let's all masturbate together club Only this one, pretends to be a buffoon And who else is there? People tell you, if you vote for anybody else, it's a wasted vote The lib dems seem to have reappeared out of nowhere, with a new female leader, who spouts the same old rhetoric As a child I loved the greens, and swore I'd vote for them. But they got infiltrated long ago, and just pay lip service to things, while going on jaunts I don't think the monster raving loony party exist anymore And that Farage fella is just way too pally with 'The Donald' for my liking Boris wants out, for devious reasons Jezza wants in, but doesn't have the balls to say it Have I missed anything out? |
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Yes, I know that saying I'm from Leeds I told the police about Jimmy Saville And that I could take them to where he lived They did nothing As far as I know, there is no, I think your all rubbish box So how does voting for somebody, I don't believe in, help anything If you want to vote, that's your business I choose not to, for reasons I've explained I don't care to be pariahed for that The truth of the matter for me is If the majority, don't vote Then, they have spoken What then That's 1 of the reasons I don't think democracy works a lot of the time In essence, just 1 single vote, could get somebody in And then I could turn your logic on you. But I won't Who you voting for anyway, and why? Brexit now always seems linked to tax evasion by the top 5% , and the better the devil you know attitude As somebody said to me, ' I don't like conservatives or what goes on, but labour don't seem to have anything to replace it with' People seem to think Corbyn is such a hardcore socialist, that he's basically a communist, and that scares people So it's either him, or another of the Eton, let's all masturbate together club Only this one, pretends to be a buffoon And who else is there? People tell you, if you vote for anybody else, it's a wasted vote The lib dems seem to have reappeared out of nowhere, with a new female leader, who spouts the same old rhetoric As a child I loved the greens, and swore I'd vote for them. But they got infiltrated long ago, and just pay lip service to things, while going on jaunts I don't think the monster raving loony party exist anymore And that Farage fella is just way too pally with 'The Donald' for my liking Boris wants out, for devious reasons Jezza wants in, but doesn't have the balls to say it Have I missed anything out? Everyone must do what they think is right, but I feel it's a shame so many good people these days do what you do: nothing. Then complain nothing ever changes and that democracy doesn't work. It does work, but democracy means you got to GOYA, or "get off your @$$". Non-democracy is you having no say. You have a say, but don't use it. That's not partaking in democracy. For a democracy to work fair for everyone everyone has to vote, not a mere 10-20% over population. Then you get a skewed outcome, and 80-90% of population who didn't GOYO moaning. I always think of the thousands of people, including my ancestors, who fought and gave their lives so we have the right to have a say. I feel I honour them by using that right. It's an extra reason for me to go. We see the same thing over here, thousands not voting because of that mindset, "Nothing ever changes anyway". How can it if people don't use their vote? I seriously cannot understand. I always vote, even when I lived abroad. I taught my kids the importance of voting and they always do so as well, for which I'm truly grateful! |
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Stopped voting years ago.
The whole system pays lipservice to democrasy. We should vote for policy not people/ party. Disolve the parties and take the best people for the job. There should be an option to have a negative vote as well. just so we could say, anyone but that bledy idiot. All parties make promises they don't or can't keep. My opinion any way. over and out. (hate politics) |
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Stopped voting years ago. The whole system pays lipservice to democrasy. We should vote for policy not people/ party. Disolve the parties and take the best people for the job. There should be an option to have a negative vote as well. just so we could say, anyone but that bledy idiot. All parties make promises they don't or can't keep. My opinion any way. over and out. (hate politics) I think that your ideas have considerable merit. We badly need political reform in this country, something more suitable for the 21st. Century rather than the late nineteenth. |
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Edited by
SparklingCrystal 💖💎
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Thu 12/12/19 08:14 AM
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It is odd that many countries suddenly have really crap representation, all revolving around money and power, not around well-being of the people and country and the environment.
The Netherlands is totally crap, glad to see the f*(ker go next year who ruined our country. Germany, Brazil, US, UK apparently as well, and I think France too. And it can be different. I happened to read an article this afternoon about a village in Andalusia where no one pays mortgage, all have a house and work. They pay E15,50 per months towards the community. Community provides the building materials AND people to help build. Work is mostly agricultural for own use and to sell, greens and olive oil. There's great health-care for everyone, including care and recreation for the elderly, swimming pool, schools, and so on and so forth. So it IS possible, like I've always said. All it takes is a government that chooses to do this because they care, instead of filling their own pockets. And with that break free from the power of the US and the EU. . . . |
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It is odd that many countries suddenly have really crap representation, all revolving around money and power, not around well-being of the people and country and the environment. The Netherlands is totally crap, glad to see the f*(ker go next year who ruined our country. Germany, Brazil, US, UK apparently as well, and I think France too. And it can be different. I happened to read an article this afternoon about a village in Andalusia where no one pays mortgage, all have a house and work. They pay E15,50 per months towards the community. Community provides the building materials AND people to help build. Work is mostly agricultural for own use and to sell, greens and olive oil. There's great health-care for everyone, including care and recreation for the elderly, swimming pool, schools, and so on and so forth. So it IS possible, like I've always said. All it takes is a government that chooses to do this because they care, instead of filling their own pockets. And with that break free from the power of the US and the EU. . . . I also think it is possible and necessary for things to change. The majority of Governments seem to try to make people dependent upon them for everything when it seems to me that protecting people from outside harm and encouraging them to be independent is a better way forward. |
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Another 27 mins!! I read there's queues everywhere, even in the rain, wow!
Apparently the outcome will follow quite fast after closing. Still keeping my fingers crossed!! |
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I do hear you, and think your opinions have merit
But, like I say, there's just none of them, or their policies, that I believe in For me to vote for somebody I think is a liar, is an insult to democracy and those that fought for it Anyway, the following was written on a postcard you could buy, and it always made me chuckle, and I thought it was true 'Don't vote.....it only encourages them' Lol |
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Edited by
SparklingCrystal 💖💎
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Thu 12/12/19 02:00 PM
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Some constituencies will take until 1 with their estimated results. Basildon & Billericay too. I know it's Southminster, I've been there, it really wasn't the Stone Ages there. Why the heck should it take so long?
That'd mean after 2 for me, I'd planned to be in bed by then, hihi. And yeah, I'm as excited as if it were my own countries elections! EDIT: a great number even later than that, dang! |
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Wow, Dutch news reports that Johnson had an overwhelming victory! So much so that I doubt it's going to change. Still keeping fingers crossed!
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Wow, Dutch news reports that Johnson had an overwhelming victory! So much so that I doubt it's going to change. Still keeping fingers crossed! Exit polls suggest that Boris Johnson will win 368 seats in Parliament, a clear majority, while Jeremy Corbyn will slump to something like 186 seats, their worst result since the nineteen eighties under the leadership of Michael Foot, another extreme left-winger. A little Socialism in a mixed economy is fine, Communism - especially Trotskyites run by millionaires, is not. |
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Well, even if the final outcome hasn't been made public yet (I'm not sure?), Labour can pack up their bags for sure, YAY!
364 for Con! I didn't keep my fingers crossed for nothing :) |
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