Congrats on your noble attempt overall.

However, to be more specific, the three "golden" rules for MEN are:


1) Be 6 feet tall.

2) Be a male model, or look like one.

3) Own and drive a $1.4 million Ferrari LaFerrari (only 500 manufactured)


I suspect that men who fit this category seldom, if ever, lack for female companionship.

Or would have much of a problem on a dating site, either.

Well then....by YOUR logic women need to be thin, young, and pretty, and don't ever question a guy/ have an opinion...
If this were not true, then countless middle-aged women wouldn't still be lonely.

IF there are middle aged women who are lonely, then they must have some serious problems. I don't think many older men expect them to be young woman thin or a special beauty. Men do expect a certain level of sanity, take pride in your appearance, and have a basis for the opinions you have. It is also necessary that you be out in society where others can meet you and be receptive when someone tries to start that initial conversation with you. So often it is just like on Mingle, your initial message or greeting is ignored.

no disrespect intended but have you ever read any really basic sales stuff like the old Dale Carnegie stuff? If not I highly recommend it. After all when you're out to meet people you're selling yourself.

I'm a technical person, always have been. Never have been any kind of sales person and find almost all of them are hot air. I don't think a sales person has ever sold me anything that I didn't already know I was buying. I understand a sales person is supposed to appeal to your emotional side not your logic side. That is like most advertisements and sales oriented websites, full of nice feelings but very little fact. Ask a sales person a technical question about the product they are trying to sell and they probably won't know the answer.

If I have to jump through hoops to appeal to the emotional side of some woman, obviously she isn't for me.

We actually have words now and yet it seems cavepeople communicated better. It’s not hard.
It doesn’t need lists or rules. I’m sad to see the art of communication between two people
being lost in the technology. People can tweet and text, but actually have a conversation?
I’ll text you. Did you see my tweet? Geez, there’s even this Venmo where people can see who
you just sent money too. What is the purpose of that? It seems most people have cell phones
for everything BUT talking on the phone. I guess my age is showing, oh well. The good old
days. :)

"IF there are middle aged women who are lonely, then they must have some serious problems. "

Da*m

What could someone say about a 72 year old man who is alone/ lonely???
You're saying HE doesn't have "serious problems"?
(since you chosde to go there)

It's sad you think women who are on dating sites because they are single must have some "serious problems"..
Maybe that view you have of women is part of your problem, buddy...

Please do not put words in my mouth!!! I did not say I was lonely. I did not say single woman on dating sites have "serious problems". What I did say is that middle aged women who cannot find a companion either are not putting out effort or have some "serious problems". I'm sorry some people have such a difficult time with the written language.

"who cannot find a companion either are not putting out effort or have some "serious problems"."

But...isn't that exactly YOUR gripe???
That *you* can't seem to meet/ find someone?

Okay... I've been slightly amused by this thread.

Doesn't talk = communicate??

Right, a weak one. During my sales years I knew everything possible about my product and relied on facts and proof to sell so your generalization doesn't apply to me but I have known too many salespeople that it does so I get your point but you're missing mine. You often post here that you have trouble with the initial meeting of someone new. In the situations you describe you have about 15 seconds to tell that person what you want and if don't get it right in those first seconds it's very hard to make up for it as time continues to pass. In your case when the distance decreases between you and the person you want to strike up a conversation with, by the time you're within speaking distance you need to know what you're going to say and how you're going to say it. Look pleasant, don't get too close and say what you're going to.
Works for me and has for over 40 years....

No,some people can talk all day and still say nothing let alone communicate anything worthwhile.

I appreciate your advise and I'm well aware of what you are saying. I typically will see a couple people a month that I have some interest in. Probably 1 in 5 will turn into a short conversation and 1 in 20 into a longer conversation. Very seldom does it turn into anything beyond that.

You left out my response. I guess that would take away from the message you are trying to create.

And i am sorry *you* misunderstood *my* reply to your comment about "putting words into your mouth...

You have been on here complaining you can't meet anyone (can i get a witness/ verification that he has syayed thos numerous times?)....and yet you dare to claim that mddle aged women "who cannot find a companion either are not putting out effort or have some "serious problems"."

Again...isn't that exactly YOUR gripe???
That *you* can't seem to meet/ find someone?

Maybe they don't have problems, mayvbe they *are* putting in effort....maybe the selection is just not to their liking..
YOU have stated YOU have strongly-held prefernces...which you have a right to..
Don't women have the same right?

Some people don't want to be with just anyone/ someone.....most people are lookimg for a true connection...and that is not easy to find.

Yes, I frequently complain about not being able to meet someone for a social companion. That is very much different than looking for a connection or relationship. Not all of us have that goal. When I specify certain criteria for a partner/relationship that is again different than a social companion. If you only are willing to get acquainted with or spend time with someone you view as relationship material, you are probably going to be a lonely, middle aged woman. There are not a lot of quality people out there if that is what you are looking for. Again your choice in life.

Sweetie....I've made no mention of or reference to myself....
Odd that you would make such an assumption...but OK..
Maybe look up the word "generalizations" in the dictionary.