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I wonder if people are concerned about this?
Currently it is real bad, all over the world. Not so bad in my country yet, but it is happening here too. I suspect when people go on holiday this summer it will get worse here as many Dutch ppl go to France and over there it's pretty bad. I haven't had a shot as they only started doing that for measles in 1976. And I was always told I haven't had the measles, so I am at risk. Of course I happen to live close to a bleeping bible belt, who tend to not have their children vaccinated. OTher than that there's more and more people refusing it because of fear mongering. Now there may be truth in those stories, but what's worse? We are now just below levels of what is safe. Safe = 95% and we're at 93%. I wonder how this is in the US as your healthcare isn't that good? I read there's a bad outbreak in Brooklyn. Also in the Philippines, France, Italy, Madagascar and so on... I wouldn't be bothered so much if I'd had it as a child, now I find it quite scary :/ |
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With travel, and the open borders policies
that a number of countries have, measles has the potential of becoming pandemic. The vaccine is readily available, at this time, to pretty much anyone who wants it. In America, it's simply a matter, of motivating parents to have their children vaccinated. Yes, we have those who refuse, based on religious grounds. And, a few other groups who refuse, based on what their Rice Crispies tell them to do. |
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I wonder if people are concerned about this? Currently it is real bad, all over the world. Not so bad in my country yet, but it is happening here too. I suspect when people go on holiday this summer it will get worse here as many Dutch ppl go to France and over there it's pretty bad. I haven't had a shot as they only started doing that for measles in 1976. And I was always told I haven't had the measles, so I am at risk. Of course I happen to live close to a bleeping bible belt, who tend to not have their children vaccinated. OTher than that there's more and more people refusing it because of fear mongering. Now there may be truth in those stories, but what's worse? We are now just below levels of what is safe. Safe = 95% and we're at 93%. I wonder how this is in the US as your healthcare isn't that good? I read there's a bad outbreak in Brooklyn. Also in the Philippines, France, Italy, Madagascar and so on... I wouldn't be bothered so much if I'd had it as a child, now I find it quite scary :/ Most people in the US are vaccinated. I am. My kids and grandkids are vaccinated against it. They give you one when you start college as well. |
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As far as I know, vaccinations are still mandatory in Germany. Dunno if they are a 100% safe bet. I got them with 3 years of age, and a booster with 6 years of age. Still managed to get Rubellas with 21 years of age
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As far as I know, vaccinations are still mandatory in Germany. Dunno if they are a 100% safe bet. I got them with 3 years of age, and a booster with 6 years of age. Still managed to get Rubellas with 21 years of age In the US they recommend an additional MMR at The start of college |
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I got a laugh from "I wonder how this is in the US as your healthcare isn't that good?" Tell the rest of the world. They still keep coming here for care!
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I got a laugh from "I wonder how this is in the US as your healthcare isn't that good?" Tell the rest of the world. They still keep coming here for care! Oh yes, people only go to the US, right! Everything is always best in the US, right?! Unfortunately it's only Americans who think that way, and people who've been misinformed. The English also think they're the only ones who get people coming over there. Now in their case it is understandable as they DO have proper healthcare. We did too, until an overload of refugees began to drain the system. It is still good and in place but becomes more expensive. And for your information on your great American healthcare I invite you to read this: "Despite being among the top world economic powers, the US remains the sole industrialized nation in the world without universal health care coverage. Prohibitively high cost is the primary reason Americans give for problems accessing health care. At over 27 million, higher than the entire population of Australia, the number of people without health insurance coverage in the United States is one of the primary concerns raised by advocates of health care reform. Lack of health insurance is associated with increased mortality, in the range 30-90 thousand deaths per year, depending on the study." |
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As far as I know, vaccinations are still mandatory in Germany. Dunno if they are a 100% safe bet. I got them with 3 years of age, and a booster with 6 years of age. Still managed to get Rubellas with 21 years of age Mandatory??? It's not mandatory over here. It's free for everyone, but not mandatory. |
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I wonder if people are concerned about this? Currently it is real bad, all over the world. Not so bad in my country yet, but it is happening here too. I suspect when people go on holiday this summer it will get worse here as many Dutch ppl go to France and over there it's pretty bad. I haven't had a shot as they only started doing that for measles in 1976. And I was always told I haven't had the measles, so I am at risk. Of course I happen to live close to a bleeping bible belt, who tend to not have their children vaccinated. OTher than that there's more and more people refusing it because of fear mongering. Now there may be truth in those stories, but what's worse? We are now just below levels of what is safe. Safe = 95% and we're at 93%. I wonder how this is in the US as your healthcare isn't that good? I read there's a bad outbreak in Brooklyn. Also in the Philippines, France, Italy, Madagascar and so on... I wouldn't be bothered so much if I'd had it as a child, now I find it quite scary :/ Most people in the US are vaccinated. I am. My kids and grandkids are vaccinated against it. They give you one when you start college as well. That's great to hear! We don't do another shot when children go to college. In a way there's no need for that. I haven't been vaccinated, wasn't around yet when I was born. I will have to ask my GP about it. |
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It is still weird that there's such a global outbreak though? Understandable it can spread like wildfire in countries who don't have vaccination programs, but in Western countries like the US, France etc?
Odd... Goes to show it really is important to keep vaccination / protected people at at least 95%. These bugs clearly don't go extinct, just wait for the ideal opportunity to flare up again it seems. |
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I wonder if people are concerned about this? Currently it is real bad, all over the world. Not so bad in my country yet, but it is happening here too. I suspect when people go on holiday this summer it will get worse here as many Dutch ppl go to France and over there it's pretty bad. I haven't had a shot as they only started doing that for measles in 1976. And I was always told I haven't had the measles, so I am at risk. Of course I happen to live close to a bleeping bible belt, who tend to not have their children vaccinated. OTher than that there's more and more people refusing it because of fear mongering. Now there may be truth in those stories, but what's worse? We are now just below levels of what is safe. Safe = 95% and we're at 93%. I wonder how this is in the US as your healthcare isn't that good? I read there's a bad outbreak in Brooklyn. Also in the Philippines, France, Italy, Madagascar and so on... I wouldn't be bothered so much if I'd had it as a child, now I find it quite scary :/ Most people in the US are vaccinated. I am. My kids and grandkids are vaccinated against it. They give you one when you start college as well. That's great to hear! We don't do another shot when children go to college. In a way there's no need for that. I haven't been vaccinated, wasn't around yet when I was born. I will have to ask my GP about it. Our family has always vaccinated. My grandmother was from Korea and had Polio as a child. She walked with a limp her whole life because of the disease. She taught how important she thought it was. I have friends that do not believe in it. They think the government put things in the vaccinations that cause other disease. I never let them convince me. They also think vaccinations cause Autism. |
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I wonder if people are concerned about this? Currently it is real bad, all over the world. Not so bad in my country yet, but it is happening here too. I suspect when people go on holiday this summer it will get worse here as many Dutch ppl go to France and over there it's pretty bad. I haven't had a shot as they only started doing that for measles in 1976. And I was always told I haven't had the measles, so I am at risk. Of course I happen to live close to a bleeping bible belt, who tend to not have their children vaccinated. OTher than that there's more and more people refusing it because of fear mongering. Now there may be truth in those stories, but what's worse? We are now just below levels of what is safe. Safe = 95% and we're at 93%. I wonder how this is in the US as your healthcare isn't that good? I read there's a bad outbreak in Brooklyn. Also in the Philippines, France, Italy, Madagascar and so on... I wouldn't be bothered so much if I'd had it as a child, now I find it quite scary :/ Most people in the US are vaccinated. I am. My kids and grandkids are vaccinated against it. They give you one when you start college as well. That's great to hear! We don't do another shot when children go to college. In a way there's no need for that. I haven't been vaccinated, wasn't around yet when I was born. I will have to ask my GP about it. Our family has always vaccinated. My grandmother was from Korea and had Polio as a child. She walked with a limp her whole life because of the disease. She taught how important she thought it was. I have friends that do not believe in it. They think the government put things in the vaccinations that cause other disease. I never let them convince me. They also think vaccinations cause Autism. Yes, more and more people choose to not vaccinate over here too because they fear the government messed with it. Not government actually, Big Pharma. And I do not exclude those rumours from being true. But then again, what is worse? The thing is that if people choose to get a shot, it doesn't affect anyone else. If people decide NOT to get it, however, it DOES effect populations. It endangers others, puts them at risk. And like your grandmother being an example, I often think people have forgotten what these diseases did to us because they don't get to see it anymore, for which we have the vaccinations to thank. Difficult discussion. But simple fact remains the one person's freedom of choice to not get vaccinated can kill other people. What about their rights? Tricky chit... Glad you and your family are vaccinated, Seakolony! |
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I live in a state that has not seen any measles outbreaks, but two states next door have had outbreaks. They apparently brought it here from other countries.
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I wonder if people are concerned about this? Currently it is real bad, all over the world. Not so bad in my country yet, but it is happening here too. I suspect when people go on holiday this summer it will get worse here as many Dutch ppl go to France and over there it's pretty bad. I haven't had a shot as they only started doing that for measles in 1976. And I was always told I haven't had the measles, so I am at risk. Of course I happen to live close to a bleeping bible belt, who tend to not have their children vaccinated. OTher than that there's more and more people refusing it because of fear mongering. Now there may be truth in those stories, but what's worse? We are now just below levels of what is safe. Safe = 95% and we're at 93%. I wonder how this is in the US as your healthcare isn't that good? I read there's a bad outbreak in Brooklyn. Also in the Philippines, France, Italy, Madagascar and so on... I wouldn't be bothered so much if I'd had it as a child, now I find it quite scary :/ Most people in the US are vaccinated. I am. My kids and grandkids are vaccinated against it. They give you one when you start college as well. That's great to hear! We don't do another shot when children go to college. In a way there's no need for that. I haven't been vaccinated, wasn't around yet when I was born. I will have to ask my GP about it. Our family has always vaccinated. My grandmother was from Korea and had Polio as a child. She walked with a limp her whole life because of the disease. She taught how important she thought it was. I have friends that do not believe in it. They think the government put things in the vaccinations that cause other disease. I never let them convince me. They also think vaccinations cause Autism. Yes, more and more people choose to not vaccinate over here too because they fear the government messed with it. Not government actually, Big Pharma. And I do not exclude those rumours from being true. But then again, what is worse? The thing is that if people choose to get a shot, it doesn't affect anyone else. If people decide NOT to get it, however, it DOES effect populations. It endangers others, puts them at risk. And like your grandmother being an example, I often think people have forgotten what these diseases did to us because they don't get to see it anymore, for which we have the vaccinations to thank. Difficult discussion. But simple fact remains the one person's freedom of choice to not get vaccinated can kill other people. What about their rights? Tricky chit... Glad you and your family are vaccinated, Seakolony! I don't discount the rumors either. All I can say is that disease happens for a reason and population control for the Earth's survival is one of them. People survived before vaccinations. They did not live as long, they did face trials and tribulations, but the beauty and cleanliness of the Earth that it took the Industrial age not to long to destroy maybe was worth the short life span? |
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I say great!
Bring it on but I wish it were lethal. We are at a tipping point in global population. The way I see it, the only solution is a super-pandemic that saturates the world. Problem is, measles is not lethal. But, it might be a good test run for someone with the ability to release a lethal toxin. We can only hope.... |
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I made some phone calls and the advice is to get vaccinated if you weren't and didn't have measles.
So tomorrow going to phone my GP for an appointment. Better safe than sorry, even if that means feeling a little under the weather for 2-3 days due to the vaccine. |
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I made some phone calls and the advice is to get vaccinated if you weren't and didn't have measles. So tomorrow going to phone my GP for an appointment. Better safe than sorry, even if that means feeling a little under the weather for 2-3 days due to the vaccine. When my kids had their MMR shot 30 years ago I had one as well due to I waited tables and around the public all the time...Because I had no idea what shots I had as a kid.. It made my arm sore but that was all no side effects at all.. I have had measles, scarlet fever, chicken pox ect... But with chicken pox unless you had a full break out you can still get it again... Both of my kids had the measles as well.. Many of the cases in the USA right now is due to Parents not getting their kids vaccinated and due to the illegals coming in that has not had any vaccinations at all~~ |
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There is a Hepatitis A outbreak in Martin County two counties away. I plan to get the vaccinations. It is a two series shot.
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There is a Hepatitis A outbreak in Martin County two counties away. I plan to get the vaccinations. It is a two series shot. If that's the bad variety of Hepatitis, not a bad choice to do. Far more contagious than HIV. HIV requires quite a lot of blood, Hep A requires a tiny droplet only to get infected. |
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Has anyone read "The Stand" by Stephen King.
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