Not sure where you get the authority or the right to offer up anyone's livelihood or reputation? Its not yours?

I think impulse control is a thing that differs from person to person. there was an experiment done some years ago called the Stanford marshmallow experiment it makes interesting reading. the gist of it was that a group of pre school children were left alone for 5 minutes with a marshmallow and told if they didn't eat it then they would get 2. the participants were invited for neural imaging some years later and the results showed that the
prefrontal cortex became more developed in those that showed signs of impulse control as children. conversely those who couldn't resist the sweet became more active in the ventral striatum,. And we all know what that means don't we? :) yea exactly, some people are ruled by the old basal ganglia. :)

I agree. but it happens every time a person's name is drug through media with 'accusations' that lead to their employers and colleagues and family being put under pressure to alienate them for fear of the negative publicity.

There was a time in America when we had physical lynch mobs. That is to say, a person or persons would claim someone had committed an offense, and mobs would set out for their own 'justice' to find and lynch that person, no trial, no proven guilt, just on the claims and accusations.

Today, we seem to have a similar climate against men. I said it. There seems to be that only claims are required to 'lynch' men, not physically, but in terms of ruining their livelihoods and reputations via media. I am not talking about the ones whose own words and actions confessing illegal activity align with the claims to do them in, so much as I am talking about the ones who proclaim innocence the whole time, have no actions or words to align with the claims, but are still socially persecuted.

As a survivor myself, I understand the importance of women being able to tell their story. I also understand the REALITY of how a culture where sex is a personal choice not open to anyone's judgment, and men and women are 'equal' in their sexual pursuits, one can no longer say (in my opinion) that a woman is not likely looking for casual encounters. I know in reality, that both men and women drink to rid themselves of inhibitions, WITH FULL INTENTION, of being able to 'get laid'. I also know, in modern times, both men and women seek and yearn for the chance to be in the public eye, which they get plenty of if they are accusing others of terrible things. Its like a type of munchaussen by proxy, seeking attention through the harm of others.


But we seem to be in a culture that, if the women say it, the man did it. IF enough people have blogged or youtubed about it, it must be true.

As sister to four brothers, and someone who tries to be a fair and compassionate human being, this bothers me.

This brings me back to the idea of sacrificing others. If we care about getting it right, and if we care about ACTUAL guilt or innocence, how careful should we be to MAKE SURE we aren't sacrificing innocent people towards the means of trying to 'convict' the guilty ones, especially when said conviction now must only happen in the public eye and not in a court room?

I've not really thought about it like that. But I think you are right we do seem to be returning to a lynch mob mentality. And there seems to be a lot of sexual neurosis behind it. It is being used as a tool to bring people down, destroy their livelihoods or even influence things politically. Men are becoming as much sexual victims as woman. The law needs such an overhaul. but how to curb the media without crippling it, is not so much legal as morel and ethical. how to combat masses of ignorant people. Cant you just sort it out for us ms H :)

haaa, I wish.

If I had my way, I would make it law that employers cannot legally separate people from their jobs on the accusation of wrongdoing, unless such accusation is tied DIRECTLY to that job, like someone working with kids being accused of pedophilia, or someone handling money being accused of theft or embezzlement.

And even that accusation would not be legal cause to stop PAYING that individual if you decide to take them 'off the job'. If they are found guilty in a court of law, incarceration will automatically take away their income and their job.

That way, people would have less power over other's livelihoods, knowing the employers hands are legally tied from reacting in such a way.

mm. I think that would go some way towards mitigating the problem.
especially since much of what we call crime has it's roots in poverty and desperation. And if you loose your income because of an ill considered action
in a fit of exuberance, you become more likely to make money any way you can..
mmm.. I've a friend coming down to see me next week he's got a degree in law. I'll raise the point with him I think, see what he makes of it. I think the problem needs looking at , it isn't going to go away on its own....

There was a time in America when we had physical lynch mobs. That is to say, a person or persons would claim someone had committed an offense, and mobs would set out for their own 'justice' to find and lynch that person, no trial, no proven guilt, just on the claims and accusations.

Today, we seem to have a similar climate against men. I said it. There seems to be that only claims are required to 'lynch' men, not physically, but in terms of ruining their livelihoods and reputations via media. I am not talking about the ones whose own words and actions confessing illegal activity align with the claims to do them in, so much as I am talking about the ones who proclaim innocence the whole time, have no actions or words to align with the claims, but are still socially persecuted.

As a survivor myself, I understand the importance of women being able to tell their story. I also understand the REALITY of how a culture where sex is a personal choice not open to anyone's judgment, and men and women are 'equal' in their sexual pursuits, one can no longer say (in my opinion) that a woman is not likely looking for casual encounters. I know in reality, that both men and women drink to rid themselves of inhibitions, WITH FULL INTENTION, of being able to 'get laid'. I also know, in modern times, both men and women seek and yearn for the chance to be in the public eye, which they get plenty of if they are accusing others of terrible things. Its like a type of munchaussen by proxy, seeking attention through the harm of others.


But we seem to be in a culture that, if the women say it, the man did it. IF enough people have blogged or youtubed about it, it must be true.

As sister to four brothers, and someone who tries to be a fair and compassionate human being, this bothers me.

This brings me back to the idea of sacrificing others. If we care about getting it right, and if we care about ACTUAL guilt or innocence, how careful should we be to MAKE SURE we aren't sacrificing innocent people towards the means of trying to 'convict' the guilty ones, especially when said conviction now must only happen in the public eye and not in a court room?