Topic: Brexit
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Tue 09/17/19 12:08 PM


The UK is a kingdom, not a democracy.
If it were a democracy, then its head of state and every political leader would be elected.


The Queen is head of state but really doesn't get involved. The government is elected and political parties are meant to be democratic by honouring the peoples vote

If the left had there way and the others who are against the crown the queen would be gone!
Yes, Kingdom is land ruled by a king or queen.
They just kind of keep things in check as a last resort.


So, Mikey. Is the UK a kingdom, a democracy or both or none of the above?
Is it a democratic kingdom or a kingly democracy? laugh

Fact still remains: People voted and the results were ignored.
I don't know, maybe that's how it's supposed to work in a kingdom like England what

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Tue 09/17/19 12:18 PM



The UK is a kingdom, not a democracy.
If it were a democracy, then its head of state and every political leader would be elected.


The Queen is head of state but really doesn't get involved. The government is elected and political parties are meant to be democratic by honouring the peoples vote

If the left had there way and the others who are against the crown the queen would be gone!
Yes, Kingdom is land ruled by a king or queen.
They just kind of keep things in check as a last resort.


So, Mikey. Is the UK a kingdom, a democracy or both or none of the above?
Is it a democratic kingdom or a kingly democracy? laugh

Fact still remains: People voted and the results were ignored.
I don't know, maybe that's how it's supposed to work in a kingdom like England what


Well, it's meant to be a democracy.
You will always get sour grapes with the losers though. that's a fact all over the world!
The result was 52% leave 48% stay out of all that voted it meant some 17.5 million people voted leave.
I dread to think what will happen if we have an election and some other crowd get in who say they'll revoke article 50 and the vote meaning we stay in slaphead
It was really simple before we voted. European union desperately needed and still does need a complete overhaul. It's becoming a kind of dictatorship. France and Germany want to make it a state with its own army and tax system.
You know as well as I do that the richer countries will be funding the less well of that have joined.

Unknown 's photo
Tue 09/17/19 12:49 PM




The UK is a kingdom, not a democracy.
If it were a democracy, then its head of state and every political leader would be elected.


The Queen is head of state but really doesn't get involved. The government is elected and political parties are meant to be democratic by honouring the peoples vote

If the left had there way and the others who are against the crown the queen would be gone!
Yes, Kingdom is land ruled by a king or queen.
They just kind of keep things in check as a last resort.


So, Mikey. Is the UK a kingdom, a democracy or both or none of the above?
Is it a democratic kingdom or a kingly democracy? laugh

Fact still remains: People voted and the results were ignored.
I don't know, maybe that's how it's supposed to work in a kingdom like England what


Well, it's meant to be a democracy.
You will always get sour grapes with the losers though. that's a fact all over the world!
The result was 52% leave 48% stay out of all that voted it meant some 17.5 million people voted leave.
I dread to think what will happen if we have an election and some other crowd get in who say they'll revoke article 50 and the vote meaning we stay in slaphead
It was really simple before we voted. European union desperately needed and still does need a complete overhaul. It's becoming a kind of dictatorship. France and Germany want to make it a state with its own army and tax system.
You know as well as I do that the richer countries will be funding the less well of that have joined.


Why do I now have the picture of a cat in the rain, trapped in a mud pit desperately trying to claw its way out of a whole that's quickly filling with water?

Anyway, I'm way past my personal quota in Politics and Religion posts for today. To me it's ALL hooey anyway, especially if it comes from me or another human being. With all our science and knowledge we're not even capable of answering the most fundamental questions that human beings have been asking for thousands of years so it's not on Mingle2 that anything will get clearer or resolved.

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Tue 09/17/19 12:57 PM





The UK is a kingdom, not a democracy.
If it were a democracy, then its head of state and every political leader would be elected.


The Queen is head of state but really doesn't get involved. The government is elected and political parties are meant to be democratic by honouring the peoples vote

If the left had there way and the others who are against the crown the queen would be gone!
Yes, Kingdom is land ruled by a king or queen.
They just kind of keep things in check as a last resort.


So, Mikey. Is the UK a kingdom, a democracy or both or none of the above?
Is it a democratic kingdom or a kingly democracy? laugh

Fact still remains: People voted and the results were ignored.
I don't know, maybe that's how it's supposed to work in a kingdom like England what


Well, it's meant to be a democracy.
You will always get sour grapes with the losers though. that's a fact all over the world!
The result was 52% leave 48% stay out of all that voted it meant some 17.5 million people voted leave.
I dread to think what will happen if we have an election and some other crowd get in who say they'll revoke article 50 and the vote meaning we stay in slaphead
It was really simple before we voted. European union desperately needed and still does need a complete overhaul. It's becoming a kind of dictatorship. France and Germany want to make it a state with its own army and tax system.
You know as well as I do that the richer countries will be funding the less well of that have joined.


Why do I now have the picture of a cat in the rain, trapped in a mud pit desperately trying to claw its way out of a whole that's quickly filling with water?

Anyway, I'm way past my personal quota in Politics and Religion posts for today. To me it's ALL hooey anyway, especially if it comes from me or another human being. With all our science and knowledge we're not even capable of answering the most fundamental questions that human beings have been asking for thousands of years so it's not on Mingle2 that anything will get clearer or resolved.

laugh
It's funny how something can create so much negatively. It's the media mostly.
All we need for tomorrow is for us to leave the EU and for god to turn up somewhere just outside Brussels. then we can post it laugh waving

Unknown 's photo
Tue 09/17/19 01:35 PM






The UK is a kingdom, not a democracy.
If it were a democracy, then its head of state and every political leader would be elected.


The Queen is head of state but really doesn't get involved. The government is elected and political parties are meant to be democratic by honouring the peoples vote

If the left had there way and the others who are against the crown the queen would be gone!
Yes, Kingdom is land ruled by a king or queen.
They just kind of keep things in check as a last resort.


So, Mikey. Is the UK a kingdom, a democracy or both or none of the above?
Is it a democratic kingdom or a kingly democracy? laugh

Fact still remains: People voted and the results were ignored.
I don't know, maybe that's how it's supposed to work in a kingdom like England what


Well, it's meant to be a democracy.
You will always get sour grapes with the losers though. that's a fact all over the world!
The result was 52% leave 48% stay out of all that voted it meant some 17.5 million people voted leave.
I dread to think what will happen if we have an election and some other crowd get in who say they'll revoke article 50 and the vote meaning we stay in slaphead
It was really simple before we voted. European union desperately needed and still does need a complete overhaul. It's becoming a kind of dictatorship. France and Germany want to make it a state with its own army and tax system.
You know as well as I do that the richer countries will be funding the less well of that have joined.


Why do I now have the picture of a cat in the rain, trapped in a mud pit desperately trying to claw its way out of a whole that's quickly filling with water?

Anyway, I'm way past my personal quota in Politics and Religion posts for today. To me it's ALL hooey anyway, especially if it comes from me or another human being. With all our science and knowledge we're not even capable of answering the most fundamental questions that human beings have been asking for thousands of years so it's not on Mingle2 that anything will get clearer or resolved.

laugh
It's funny how something can create so much negatively. It's the media mostly.
All we need for tomorrow is for us to leave the EU and for god to turn up somewhere just outside Brussels. then we can post it laugh waving


laugh waving

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Wed 09/18/19 06:22 AM
Hello everybody. I voted remain because we need to be part of the EU Custom's Union for goods and tariffs.

We need the EU Single Market for customers. We need Freedom of Movement in Goods, Services, and People.

We also need the money that was our rebate care of our billions per year membership... That rebate was used for investment purposes over here.

By voting Leave, Brexiteers have given two gingers up to our European neighbours.




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Wed 09/18/19 06:32 AM

Hello everybody. I voted remain because we need to be part of the EU Custom's Union for goods and tariffs.

We need the EU Single Market for customers. We need Freedom of Movement in Goods, Services, and People.

We also need the money that was our rebate care of our billions per year membership... That rebate was used for investment purposes over here.

By voting Leave, Brexiteers have given two gingers up to our European neighbours.






Hello, sir.
When did the UK become SO weak as to NEED the EU?
Why does the UK HAVE to be in the EU to be viable economically?
What about ALL those other countries that are not part of the EU like Morocco, Australia, Dubai, Canada, Israel...? How have they fared not being in the EU?
Are those countries clamouring to be part of the EU?
Why not?
Why couldn't the UK exist out of the EU?
How did the UK survive before joining the EU?
Why did the UK not adopt the Euro if it SO NEEDED the EU?

I know it's a lot of questions but I trust you catch my drift.

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Wed 09/18/19 06:41 AM
Hi michaelt
Good point.
I'd of probably gone for remain if when Cameron went to the eu to try get them to reform it they actually listened instead of acting like a dictatorship!

They brushed us aside like a nothing country.
The whole system is unfair and favours Germany mainly and France.
Look at our infrastructure compared with there's, ours is in a mess.
We cannot build any major construction without tendering it out to Europe first then they undercut other prices because much of their major manufacturers are backed by their government.

Freedom of movement yes, but we didn't sign up for all the toerags to come and sponge off our hard work!
That's why the rest of Europe let refugees walk freely through hoping they'll end up here.

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Wed 09/18/19 07:10 AM
mikey, "We" didnt vote Leave, 17.4 million people from a 60 million population voted Leave, and I would say the same if Remain had won.

We have a serious problem with our voting system, it is totally undemocratic.

Europe have Proportional Representation, this voting system is democratic.

Nick Clegg tried to do something about this under the coalition by introducing AV, but this was rejected.

I hope whomever wins the next general election, changes by whatever means they can, our voting system to Proportional Representation.

On Brexit, David Cameron had this EU referendum vote to appease the EU sceptics in his party, this vote was not for the good of the country, and it backfired spectacularly.

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Wed 09/18/19 07:15 AM
Oh, I agree that only 17.4 million won but it was still 52 %of those who voted.
Maybe the vote should be mandatory like in some countries.

Just a note : they keep saying we'll run out of this and that medicine, food etc.
My big question is why are they not made here anyway?

Unknown 's photo
Wed 09/18/19 07:20 AM


We have a serious problem with our voting system, it is totally undemocratic.




FYI: According to David England isn't a Democracy, it's a Kingdom, so expecting a democratic process in a kingdom can only leave you frustrated.

I know, I don't fully understand it myself - and surely it's designed to be confusing - but it is what it is and the only option left to anyone is to vote or yell in a desert - or post on Mingle2 laugh

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Wed 09/18/19 08:36 AM
We only have a problem when the left don't get there way sad

How does it work in America?
They have the Democrats, I'm assuming that's something to do with democracy and the other crowd?

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Wed 09/18/19 09:14 AM
Edited by Unknown on Wed 09/18/19 09:15 AM

We only have a problem when the left don't get there way sad

How does it work in America?
They have the Democrats, I'm assuming that's something to do with democracy and the other crowd?


It doesn't work in America. They're at each other's throat and it can only get worse as impeachment proceedings will, again, demonstrate that President Trump is not a Russian agent and didn't obstruct justice (or whatever they call "justice" over there)
Then, sht is really going to hit the fan when Trump wins in 2020... But that's their problem, no longer mine. Glad I left that Babylon of a place when I did.

"They have the Democrats, I'm assuming that's something to do with democracy"
rofl
Thanks for the laugh!

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Wed 09/18/19 09:19 AM


We only have a problem when the left don't get there way sad

How does it work in America?
They have the Democrats, I'm assuming that's something to do with democracy and the other crowd?


It doesn't work in America. They're at each other's throat and it can only get worse as impeachment proceedings will, again, demonstrate that President Trump is not a Russian agent and didn't obstruct justice (or whatever they call "justice" over there)
Then, sht is really going to hit the fan when Trump wins in 2020... But that's their problem, no longer mine. Glad I left that Babylon of a place when I did.

"They have the Democrats, I'm assuming that's something to do with democracy"
rofl
Thanks for the laugh!


rofl your welcome :thumbsup:
At least we had /or maybe still have a party called 'the raving monster looney party'rofl
And they got votes :wink:

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Wed 09/18/19 10:42 AM



We only have a problem when the left don't get there way sad

How does it work in America?
They have the Democrats, I'm assuming that's something to do with democracy and the other crowd?


It doesn't work in America. They're at each other's throat and it can only get worse as impeachment proceedings will, again, demonstrate that President Trump is not a Russian agent and didn't obstruct justice (or whatever they call "justice" over there)
Then, sht is really going to hit the fan when Trump wins in 2020... But that's their problem, no longer mine. Glad I left that Babylon of a place when I did.

"They have the Democrats, I'm assuming that's something to do with democracy"
rofl
Thanks for the laugh!


rofl your welcome :thumbsup:
At least we had /or maybe still have a party called 'the raving monster looney party'rofl
And they got votes :wink:


Raving Monsters Looneys eh? Well, at least it sounds more accurate than Democrats laugh

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Wed 09/18/19 10:48 AM
Talking about Ypres, I happened to be there in I think 2015 when they had a eu summit.
It was all fenced off around the cathedral, big crowds. mostly Belgium, French, Germans etc.
Merkel came out. dead silence apart from a couple of people booing
Same when the french leader came out. straight to the car.
Cameron came out and the crowd erupted! !
Cheering him. He came over to the railings and shook people's hand. I was about 10 m away.
What I'm saying is that most in Europe seemed to support what we wanted and that is to reform Europe! !
Then the rest is history as they say!

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Wed 09/18/19 11:32 AM

Talking about Ypres, I happened to be there in I think 2015 when they had a eu summit.
It was all fenced off around the cathedral, big crowds. mostly Belgium, French, Germans etc.
Merkel came out. dead silence apart from a couple of people booing
Same when the french leader came out. straight to the car.
Cameron came out and the crowd erupted! !
Cheering him. He came over to the railings and shook people's hand. I was about 10 m away.
What I'm saying is that most in Europe seemed to support what we wanted and that is to reform Europe! !
Then the rest is history as they say!



Yep. Most Europeans want the EU reformed and its powers overseen and/or curtailed but since when the EU fatcats and politicians gave a doodoo about the serfs they despise?

Look at the Yellow Vests movement. Amongst one of their demands is the reform of the EU or a Franxit and 80% of the French support that yet what does Macron do? He -basically - orders French police to maim, eye-gouge and imprison them.

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Wed 09/18/19 11:38 AM



The UK is a kingdom, not a democracy.
If it were a democracy, then its head of state and every political leader would be elected.


The Queen is head of state but really doesn't get involved. The government is elected and political parties are meant to be democratic by honouring the peoples vote

If the left had there way and the others who are against the crown the queen would be gone!
Yes, Kingdom is land ruled by a king or queen.
They just kind of keep things in check as a last resort.


So, Mikey. Is the UK a kingdom, a democracy or both or none of the above?
Is it a democratic kingdom or a kingly democracy? laugh

Fact still remains: People voted and the results were ignored.
I don't know, maybe that's how it's supposed to work in a kingdom like England what


Well I'd say it's a democracy.
The Queen in theory can rule against something but that never happens. when there is an election the incoming leader goes to her and asks for permission to form a government. I think that's just show like much of the going on in the theatre of the house of commons.
I'm sure it was our system that's the model for democracy around the world?
Magna carta rings a bell, but so did quasimodo and look where that got him laugh

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Wed 09/18/19 11:45 AM




The UK is a kingdom, not a democracy.
If it were a democracy, then its head of state and every political leader would be elected.


The Queen is head of state but really doesn't get involved. The government is elected and political parties are meant to be democratic by honouring the peoples vote

If the left had there way and the others who are against the crown the queen would be gone!
Yes, Kingdom is land ruled by a king or queen.
They just kind of keep things in check as a last resort.


So, Mikey. Is the UK a kingdom, a democracy or both or none of the above?
Is it a democratic kingdom or a kingly democracy? laugh

Fact still remains: People voted and the results were ignored.
I don't know, maybe that's how it's supposed to work in a kingdom like England what


Well I'd say it's a democracy.
The Queen in theory can rule against something but that never happens. when there is an election the incoming leader goes to her and asks for permission to form a government. I think that's just show like much of the going on in the theatre of the house of commons.
I'm sure it was our system that's the model for democracy around the world?
Magna carta rings a bell, but so did quasimodo and look where that got him laugh


That sounds exactly like how the kingdom of Belgium works.

"I'm sure it was our system that's the model for democracy around the world?"
I would argue, maybe in error since I'm not THAT bright, that the model for Democracy around the world was born with the Roman Republic.
It's no coincidence that the U.S and Germany and a few other countries have an Eagle for its "standard".

"Magna carta rings a bell, but so did quasimodo and look where that got him"
rofl
Quasimodo was also in love with a woman WAY OUT of his league and... look where THAT got him laugh

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Wed 09/18/19 11:50 AM





The UK is a kingdom, not a democracy.
If it were a democracy, then its head of state and every political leader would be elected.


The Queen is head of state but really doesn't get involved. The government is elected and political parties are meant to be democratic by honouring the peoples vote

If the left had there way and the others who are against the crown the queen would be gone!
Yes, Kingdom is land ruled by a king or queen.
They just kind of keep things in check as a last resort.


So, Mikey. Is the UK a kingdom, a democracy or both or none of the above?
Is it a democratic kingdom or a kingly democracy? laugh

Fact still remains: People voted and the results were ignored.
I don't know, maybe that's how it's supposed to work in a kingdom like England what


Well I'd say it's a democracy.
The Queen in theory can rule against something but that never happens. when there is an election the incoming leader goes to her and asks for permission to form a government. I think that's just show like much of the going on in the theatre of the house of commons.
I'm sure it was our system that's the model for democracy around the world?
Magna carta rings a bell, but so did quasimodo and look where that got him laugh


That sounds exactly like how the kingdom of Belgium works.

"I'm sure it was our system that's the model for democracy around the world?"
I would argue, maybe in error since I'm not THAT bright, that the model for Democracy around the world was born with the Roman Republic.
It's no coincidence that the U.S and Germany and a few other countries have an Eagle for its "standard".

"Magna carta rings a bell, but so did quasimodo and look where that got him"
rofl
Quasimodo was also in love with a woman WAY OUT of his league and... look where THAT got him laugh



Oh yeah, I remember the girl from the film, what was her name? Oh yeah it was dave, the cage fighting lesbian feminist rofl
I think it was her who set fire to notre dam rofl