Topic: URGENT PRAYER - SHOOTING IN PROGRESS
mommyof1's photo
Sun 12/09/07 02:06 PM
Judy, I am glad that your kids and you didnt go to church today!

It is understandable that your kids would be shaken up about this.....


I for one, am Glad you all are okay flowerforyou flowerforyou

fortsmithman's photo
Sun 12/09/07 02:10 PM
The people involved are in my prayers

RealtyLady's photo
Sun 12/09/07 02:16 PM
This world is going straight to Hell. The holidays make some ppl crazy. Heartfelt prayers to all involved.:heart: flowerforyou :heart:


FindMe1113's photo
Sun 12/09/07 02:29 PM
OMG...This is terriblesad

Sending prayers and light to allfrown

Snugglesbyfire's photo
Sun 12/09/07 02:31 PM
Sending prayers for all:cry:

Katertots37's photo
Sun 12/09/07 02:36 PM
Sending prayers to your congregation

Angelsing's photo
Sun 12/09/07 08:05 PM

The gunman has been killed.

CrazyPalindrome's photo
Sun 12/09/07 09:10 PM
Well then, hope that in death, he saw the error of his ways, and that whatever force you believe to be there, takes pitty on him and helps him to, in time, make his spirit whole again.

catchme_ifucan's photo
Sun 12/09/07 10:09 PM
:cry: flowerforyou ((((Judy)))):heart:

Love & Light to all involved!


MSNBC.com


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Police: Colorado shootings may be linked
2 slain at missionary center; in later attack at church, gunman, victim die
By JUDITH KOHLER
Associated Press Writer
The Associated Press
updated 8:15 p.m. PT, Sun., Dec. 9, 2007
COLORADO SPRINGS, Colo. - A gunman shot four staff members at a missionary training center near Denver early Sunday, killing two, after being told he couldn't spend the night. About 12 hours later and 65 miles away, a gunman fatally shot a parishioner at a megachurch and wounded four other people before a guard killed him, police said.

The police chief in Arvada, a suburb about 15 miles west of Denver where the mission workers were shot, said the shootings may be related to those at the Colorado Springs church but declined to elaborate. Arvada authorities said no one had been captured in the shootings there.

The gunman at the New Life Church in Colorado Springs was shot and killed by a church security guard after entering the church's main foyer with a high-powered rifle shortly before 1 p.m. and opening fire, Colorado Springs Police Chief Richard Myers said. Four others were wounded, Myers said.

The church's 11 a.m. service had recently ended, and hundreds of people were milling about when the gunman opened fire. Nearby were parents picking up their children from the nursery.

‘Probably saved many lives’
Police arrived to find that the gunman had been killed by a member of the church's armed security staff, Myers said.

"There was a courageous staff member who probably saved many lives here today," Myers said.

Gov. Bill Ritter ordered state authorities to help investigate. The FBI and the federal Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives were assisting, and officers combed the church campus looking for suspicious devices.

Three of the injured were taken to Penrose Community Hospital in Colorado Springs, said hospital spokeswoman Amy Sufak. One person was critical, she said. It wasn't known where the fourth injured person was being treated.

New Life was founded by the Rev. Ted Haggard, who was fired last year after a former male prostitute alleged he had a three-year cash-for-sex relationship with him. Haggard, then the president of the National Association of Evangelicals, admitted committing undisclosed "sexual immorality."

Mission training program has office at church
The New Life church is one of Colorado's largest with about 10,000 members. The mission training program in Arvada has a small office at the church's World Prayer Center on the New Life campus.

About 7,000 people were on the Colorado Springs campus at the time of the shooting, Boyd said. Security at the church had been beefed up after the early morning shootings in Arvada, he said.

That shooting happened at about 12:30 a.m. at the Youth With a Mission center in Arvada, a Denver suburb, police spokeswoman Susan Medina said.

A man and a woman were killed and two men were wounded, Medina said. All four were staff members of the center, said Paul Filidis, a Colorado Springs-based spokesman with Youth With a Mission.

Arvada Police Chief Don Wick, asked whether he believed there was reason to think the shootings are related, responded, "Yes, there is reason to believe that."


Wick said the suspect spent several minutes speaking with people inside the dorm. Peter Warren, director of Youth With a Mission Denver, said the man asked whether he could spend the night. Several youths called on Tiffany Johnson, the center's director of hospitality.

"The director of hospitality was called. That's when he opened fire," Warren said. Johnson, 26, was killed.

Warren said he didn't know whether any of the students or staff knew the gunman. "We don't know why" he came to the dormitory, Warren said.

Witnesses told police that the gunman was a 20-year-old white male, wearing a dark jacket and skull cap, who had a handgun and left on foot. He may have glasses or a beard.

Police with dogs searched the area through the night, and residents of nearby homes were notified by reverse 911 to be on the lookout. Medina said residents were asked to look out their windows for any tracks left in the snow during the night. About 4 inches of snow had fallen in the area in the past day.

In addition to Johnson, killed in Arvada was Philip Crouse, 24. Youth With a Mission said Johnson was from Minnesota and Crouse was from Alaska.

The missionary center identified the wounded as Dan Griebenow, 24, of South Dakota, and Charlie Blanch, 22, whose hometown wasn't immediately known. One of the men was in critical condition, and the other was stable, police said.

The missionary center is on the grounds of the Faith Bible Chapel. Cheril Morrison, wife of chapel pastor George Morrison, said Crouse had just hung up Christmas lights at her home and that Johnson was "an amazingly beautiful person."

‘Why would anybody want to hurt those kids?’
Mimi Martin, who lives near the center, said she received the warning call at about 9 a.m. warning neighbors to keep their doors and windows locked.

"Why would anybody want to hurt those kids?" Martin said.

Darv Smith, director of a Youth With a Mission center in Boulder, said people ranging from their late teens to their 70s undergo a 12-week course that prepares them to be missionaries. He said the center trains about 300 people a year.

Filidis said staffers are usually former missionaries themselves and that the "mercy ministries" performed by trainees include orphanage work. He said he didn't know where the group being trained in Arvada was going to be sent.

Youth With a Mission was started in 1960 and now has 1,100 locations with 16,000 full-time staff, Smith said. The Arvada center was founded in 1984.


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URL: http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/22174890/

catchme_ifucan's photo
Sun 12/09/07 10:11 PM
noway Sorry! They didn't need to air the dirty laundry too!

Fade2Black's photo
Mon 12/10/07 12:48 PM
The 2 girls that were killed at our church were sisters .. Stephanie and Rachel (18, 16) VERY VERY tragic..

franshade's photo
Mon 12/10/07 12:50 PM
I am soo sorry for the ones that lost their lives...

http://krdo.com/Global/story.asp?S=7472137

thats a link to the story

Fade2Black's photo
Mon 12/10/07 12:51 PM
You have to feel sorrow for the shooter's family too. They lost a son AND feel the weight of his actions on other families. Wow.

He is dead, taken out by a female volunteer security officer at our church. But, if the church had not beefed up security coverage (which they did when they heard about the YWAM center) she would not have been where she was. The shooter came into the church building (the girls were killed outside in the parking lot) and he was packin' ... he coulda taken out say, another 100 easy....

God is faithful to lessen the impact ... angels were overhead.

purdylilthang76's photo
Mon 12/10/07 12:57 PM
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Ive been so worried about you since i heard the news. My phone is off or i would of called. Your in my prayers as long with your whole church sweetie!! i love you!!!

heatherrae's photo
Mon 12/10/07 01:00 PM
i am sending prayers your way.

no photo
Mon 12/10/07 01:00 PM
I heard about it last night on the news...im so sorry and prayers go out to you and everyoneflowerforyou

Twitch's photo
Mon 12/10/07 01:02 PM
So sad:cry: Prayers to your church and the victims:cry:
My God what is happening to peoplebrokenheart

TiffaIrishGirl's photo
Mon 12/10/07 02:20 PM
still keeping everyone in our prayers...:heart: :heart:

Fade2Black's photo
Mon 12/10/07 06:00 PM

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Ive been so worried about you since i heard the news. My phone is off or i would of called. Your in my prayers as long with your whole church sweetie!! i love you!!!


I love you too Jenn .. thanks for your concern and your texts ..

It's been such a horrific experience, and painful beyond understanding. My heart has been so heavy all day for the family of the precious girls. Stephanie (18) and Rachel (16) but they both were strong Christian girls so we know where they are tonight. Thank God for that.

As to the shooter, how broken hearted his parents must be. They've lost their son, but they also realize the pain and suffering he caused others. Wow.

It's all surreal yanno. Thank you all for your prayers .. we will be meeting as a church 'family' to work thru the grief and I am sure their funerals will be attended en masse.

Rapunzel's photo
Mon 12/10/07 06:12 PM
I am so sorry to hear of this terrible tragedy...:cry:
my deepest sympathy and compassion are extended sad
Prayers and love and light to everyone involved :heart: