Frustration can lead to many other sins lol.

Before we get into the mistranslation of this passage, I feel that I have to point out this poster's use of the word "should." I have noticed that when people use this word, that they are trying to inflict (or impose) their own morals on you or someone else.

Strong's

G283 amiantos am-ee'-an-tos
from G1 (as a negative particle) and a derivative of G3392;

unsoiled, i.e. (figuratively) pure.

We are told what this word 'amiantos' means in relation to the marriage bed.

CLV Heb 13:4 May matrimony be honorable in all, and the bed undefiled, for paramours and adulterers will God be judging.

Paramours and adulterers.

A paramour is very different from someone who is "sexually immoral." Immoral implies that there is someone's morality involved. Yet God does not use morality.

I would be willing to bet that most people here do not know what a paramour is. I can almost hear the clicking of search engines heating up this site. Let us not forget that this is an Ancient Greek term and not subject to the rules and interpretations of English.

Strong's

G4205 pornos por'-nos
from pernemi (to sell; akin to the base of G4097);

a (male) prostitute (as venal), i.e. (by analogy) a debauchee (libertine).

And let us note that from this definition a male prostitute gets paid for his services.

We all believe we know what adultery is. You have to be married to commit adultery, or do with someone married.

But there is another meaning to this word. One more specific to Israel. Someone who has been beguiled by "other" gods. Much like the Israelites who worshipped the golden calf that Aaron fashioned.

Adultery is not always about having sex.

Perhaps this is tantamount to how we have traded our Lord and Savior for the comfort and Christian substitution of the church.

It's nice that there are some who prefer to have their marriage bed "pure," as he or she defines it. What I find confusing is how these people are able to ignore what the Scriptures actually say.

IMO

People interpret the meaning of the scriptures in different ways. Most use it to suit themselves. Every religion uses it in different ways.

That’s why I don’t follow religion of any kind. Keep life simple!

there are over 750 sins in the Catholic religion ( which I am), and I am sure I brake at least 20 of them just getting to work

My point

In my mind , if you are a good person at heart, no malice, no hatred, no misdeeds ( done on purpose), that is enough for any God

I don't buy into the man made rule

We ( Catholics) at not supposed to eat meat at certain times of the year. and if you forget and have a Big Mack at McDonalds.. you sinned

I don't buy that manmade garbage. Frankly, I think God would like a Big Mac.. who doesn't.

That is the major problem here. As long as we are using our opinion we are not using the Scriptures.
The Scriptures will teach us how to interpret the Scriptures. I suppose the hardest part is getting yourself out of the way.
The simplest version of the Bible is the oldest and most complete. These are the English versions based only on the Ancient text. Not manuscripts that were written over 1000 years later.
Ignore what the Scriptures teach about interpretation and you are creating your own religion. Something other than Christianity.

CLV Prov. 16:25 There is a way that seems upright before a man, Yet its end becomes the ways of death.

And yet there are only 613 Mitzvot in the Scriptures. It seems that some churches tend to add a few...

CLV Matt 11:30 for My yoke is kindly and My load is light.

Apparently, the load of the church is not as kindly.

I can understand a devote religious person needing religion to establish how they personally believe.
If that gives you contentment, it shouldn't be a problem.

However, I don't really see how it is a problem when someone does not value scripture as scripture is intended.
Some people base their beliefs on what they are told and others base their beliefs on what they have experienced.

The 'problem' nearly always stems from others not adhering to the the 'beliefs' of others.
In this way, the "Vanilla Syndrome" has an impact on how we all lead our lives.
The issue is not the scripture.
Its not even the interpretation of the scriptures.
It has to do with what is acceptable within the 'society' of those that use scripture to dictate their reasons for doing the things they do.

If your beliefs dictate to you a need to be 'vanilla' then by all means, live withing those beliefs.
If those vanilla beliefs do not dictate your behavior, by all means, find actions that fall within your belief structure.

Personally, I don't care how you conduct yourself as long as it doesn't adversely effect the way I conduct myself.

The thing about sin is how you live with it, not how I live with it.
Personally, I think the act of expressing love for another takes precedence over anything written by someone that doesn't know me.
If that expression of love is vanilla so be it.
If that expression of love is giving her an orgasm while bent over the coffee table, so be it.

The important thing to do is to choose wisely when accepting your special someone.
If they need 'vanilla' and you don't,
You Chose Poorly.

Something went wrong in Mary's engagement bed anyway.

750....613...the number doesn't matter. the fact that no mortal can follow these rules is the point.. no one can even remember them all.

nobody can even figure the bible out. put 10 people in a room.. get 10 different explanations

Just be a good person at heart... that is enough

This is superb

Could you please supply a complete list,I feel as if I have missed out on a few and as they say, you only live once.

I am not religious.



Much like the Pharisees, you lack the understanding of what the Scriptures are and especially what they are for.



The issue I have put forth in this thread is the Scriptures. Not the beliefs of others.



Yes, I have seen how you conduct yourself. It leaves much to be desired.

But I waste my time trying to talk to someone who has never read the book and does not understand it.

CLV Matt 22:29
Now, answering, Jesus said to them, "You are deceived, not being acquainted with the scriptures, nor yet with the power of God.

I don't know what you are trying to accomplish.

But the Scriptures do not tell us to just be a good person.

Good is relative. But I would say if something is good, it has to be good for something.

Perhaps you should read Song of Solomon.

I don't know who you are talking to or what you mean.

The fact is I have read the Song of Solomon, as I have read the entire Bible.

Have you?

So, do you have the guts to be a bit less cryptic?

I am not religious.
Never said you were?

you lack the understanding of what the Scriptures are and especially what they are for
I don't really care, I didn't read this as a debate on scripture but more of an exploration of people's ideas and beliefs.
YOU are the one that started posting scriptures...

The issue I have put forth in this thread is the Scriptures. Not the beliefs of others.
But, see (refer to OP), this thread is all about the beliefs of others.

Yes, I have seen how you conduct yourself. It leaves much to be desired.
I don't live according to your expectation of how I should live.
I seriously doubt many others do either.

But I waste my time trying to talk to someone who has never read the book and does not understand it.
So why do you?

Frankly, I see all your replies to anyone that comments and I find you confrontational more than insightful.
Perhaps that is why you are still single?

I never said you did.
But you did propose a scenario involving religious people.
As I am not religious, I am not represented.



Christianity is based on the Bible.
About 33% of the world is Christian.
Both Judaism and Islam are based on the Bible.
So I would say that it is appropriate to post Scriptures on any discussion on religion.
Any discussion about religion that lacks Scripture I would consider to be incomplete.



Of course, you do not know anything about me. Making assumptions like this only exposes what you are made of. But your comment is much like the kettle calling the pot black.

CLV Prov. 16:25 There is a way that seems upright before a man, Yet its end becomes the ways of death.

Perhaps the most disappointing thing when talking about religion is that every hater I've ever met was someone who formed their opinion about God/Bible/Jesus without ever really trying to understand or study it.

I totally relate since I was an atheist for half my life. They don't want to deal with any questions of morality, but rather make up their own as they go. I don't see it as my job to "correct" or judge them, but they do get angry when I mention there is a higher standard worth attaining.

Not that I've attained it. However, it does at least offer a standard that guides me through dark currents. For example....met a gorgeous girl the other night. She was an amazing dancer, and oh what a body. But when we exchanged numbers, she gave me a card that indicated she was a witch.

No matter how much I like her, our paths and expectations will never be the same.

I often wish I could jettison my faith in favor of sex with a hot woman. Surely God will forgive my moment of weakness? Yes, of course He would once I confess it was a big mistake to disobey his wise counsel. But the point of the scriptures concerning love and sex is to avoid heartache altogether. In my lifetime, I've seen a few dozen couples who (both) REALLY DID follow God's counsel. All of them still very happily married....

Bingo! Most people tend to forget that the Bible, though it is considered the word of God was written by many different people over an extended period of time. It's not meant to be read literally.

BigD

If you aren’t religious, why do you feel the need to quote scriptures on every post you comment on?

A lot of people Do Not care what the scriptures say and most do Not follow them either, regardless of their religious beliefs.

Frankly, I find it annoying!