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Topic: Flat Earth
hardBNhard's photo
Fri 04/05/19 10:33 AM

"Constellations have always remained the same for thousands of years"
Actually, no they haven't. Stellar parallax can be measured across the year, with constellations changing due to proper motion across much larger timespans.

"impossible if the Earth was spinning and hurtling around the sun as the sun shoots through the imaginary galaxy.. "
Works just fine. You just don't understand the distance and scale involved.

"Water sticking to exterior of any object is so ridiculous I can barely hold back my laughter. "
Water sticks to objects just fine. It's called surface tension. Droplets stick just fine when the object is rotating producing a centripetal acceleration equal to that of Earth over 24 hours. In fact, thin films of water sticking to objects represent much deeper oceans than Earth has. And that ignores gravity, which is relatively non-existent for small scale objects.

"Do some research and stop regurgitating the script you've been provided with by MOVIE actors such as Neil DeGrasee Tyson and Bill Nye... flippin Disney characters.. FFS "
The only one regurgitating a script is you. All your talking points are demonstrably incorrect and complete misrepresentations of the science involved. Flat earthers do precisely what they falsely accuse their opponents of.



Well put :thumbsup:
But might be to technical for flat earthers .
Tell them to go flush there toilet and see the movement of the water going down the bowl !
Then go to Australia and flush the toilet ! bigsmile ..... or they can watch the episode of "THE SIMPSONS" in Australialaugh

Tom4Uhere's photo
Fri 04/05/19 11:24 AM

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Fri 04/05/19 03:06 PM
I love the way some people post a load of nonsense to wind up those of us who have actually been in an aeroplane and seen for themselves that the earth is obviously round.

Just looking at all the scientific evidence makes that clear. "One small step for man... "etc. Next someone will be saying that is just a hoax......

Wait, I think I saw someone saying that too...... no, just someone else winding us all up. Have fun y'all laugh laugh

Narlycarnk's photo
Fri 04/05/19 04:48 PM
Edited by Narlycarnk on Fri 04/05/19 05:09 PM




There’s no reason why a planet couldn’t be donut shaped

https://www.centauri-dreams.org/2018/03/06/a-new-theory-of-lunar-formation/

Tom4Uhere's photo
Fri 04/05/19 05:28 PM
There’s no reason why a planet couldn’t be donut shaped

Except for maybe the physics related to mass and gravity.
Yes there are odd shaped asteroids and comets but as mass reaches a tipping point...spherical is the shape it forms.

The fellows over at Cornell University say:
http://curious.astro.cornell.edu/copyright-notice/56-our-solar-system/planets-and-dwarf-planets/general-questions/231-why-are-stars-and-planets-round-beginner

CalTech also chimes in on this:
http://coolcosmos.ipac.caltech.edu/ask/194-Why-are-all-of-the-planets-round-

Since planets and stars that spin are bulging at the equators, I imagine if you were to spin a planet fast enough it could start to be donut shaped but tortional forces from such speed would probably rip it apart.

Narlycarnk's photo
Fri 04/05/19 05:28 PM
Edited by Narlycarnk on Fri 04/05/19 05:30 PM
Reason for small gravitational anomalies due to isostacy in an otherwise smooth surface:



http://large.stanford.edu/courses/2007/ph210/pan2/images/f1big.gif

Pratt Theory (left) and Airy's Theory (right).

Tom4Uhere's photo
Fri 04/05/19 05:53 PM

Reason for small gravitational anomalies due to isostacy in an otherwise smooth surface:



http://large.stanford.edu/courses/2007/ph210/pan2/images/f1big.gif

Pratt Theory (left) and Airy's Theory (right).

YUP
:thumbsup: tongue2

Earthica 's photo
Fri 04/05/19 08:43 PM
Edited by Earthica on Fri 04/05/19 08:44 PM
there is no stellar parallax... ..
you rely solely on unfathomable numbers that no one can detect
.. same case for curvature, movement, gravity, mass attraction,
toilets flush in different directions in different basins and toilets in the same house... I've tried it..
that is contingent upon the entry and design..
you globe believers are spinning alright... in the head

Earthica 's photo
Fri 04/05/19 09:03 PM
Edited by Earthica on Fri 04/05/19 09:04 PM
flat earthers have actually studied the globe
globe earthers have not studied their own model,
nor have they studied flat earth... if anything,
they only google 'DEBUNK', and no matter how ridiculous
the claims are, they parrot it as if it is fact
Hollywood pseudo psyence, complete with Disney actors,
as if they are real scientists...
the globe riddled with impossibilities piled upon more
impossibilities ...
read Eric Dubay's "200 Proofs the Earth is not a Spinning
Ball", for starters.. or watch the video if you don't
know how to read
NO curvature has EVER been seen or detected
high altitude balloons have taken 360 degree footage
from 120 thousand feet and it is level all the way around
so dont even try to tell me you saw the curve
from an airplane or mountain top because
I can PROVE you wrong, the horizon RISES as you ascend...
and remains at your eye LEVEL, no matter how high you go
if you were on a ball, the horizon would
fall away from you in all directions as you ascend

Tom4Uhere's photo
Fri 04/05/19 10:55 PM

flat earthers have actually studied the globe
globe earthers have not studied their own model,
nor have they studied flat earth... if anything,
they only google 'DEBUNK', and no matter how ridiculous
the claims are, they parrot it as if it is fact
Hollywood pseudo psyence, complete with Disney actors,
as if they are real scientists...
the globe riddled with impossibilities piled upon more
impossibilities ...
read Eric Dubay's "200 Proofs the Earth is not a Spinning
Ball", for starters.. or watch the video if you don't
know how to read
NO curvature has EVER been seen or detected
high altitude balloons have taken 360 degree footage
from 120 thousand feet and it is level all the way around
so don't even try to tell me you saw the curve
from an airplane or mountain top because
I can PROVE you wrong, the horizon RISES as you ascend...
and remains at your eye LEVEL, no matter how high you go
if you were on a ball, the horizon would
fall away from you in all directions as you ascend

So, what yer saying is that every scientific entity is a ruse?
That Eric Dubay is the foremost authority on nature.
That orbiting satellites, aurora borealis and the fact that all observable planets and stars that are observed at different times/locations and always appear round are wrong?
The Sun rises in the east and sets in the west, time zones and all maps are wrong?
The super computers that forecasts the weather are wrong?
Any scientist that claims reality are actors playing a secret role?







No matter how much proof y'all might get, you will always say its a hoax, a fabrication, an act.

Why would this be so important to hoax?
What is gained?
What does it hurt?


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Sat 04/06/19 04:09 AM
Edited by ... on Sat 04/06/19 04:11 AM
I bet earthica is smiling from ear to ear as those of us who understand science try to ridicule the flat earthers - it's just a bit of fun, don't take anyone seriously. After all, you have only to ask any one of hundreds of famous scientists and they will all give the same answer.

If the round planet was a hoax, ask yourself why such a large number of people would be 'in on it' to deceive the rest of us. Why would so many people be so keen to perpetuate such a deception? What would be their gain?

Try find just one respected and famous scientist to support such a ridiculous theory........ no you can't as there are none.

I'm truly surprised that such people exist, but there's none posting here, it's just a wind-up!

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Sat 04/06/19 06:32 PM
the earth is what ever you want it to be..
we are all just in a suspended dream state and none of this is real

Earthica 's photo
Sat 04/06/19 11:17 PM
Learn the difference between real science- objective observable, testable and repeatable
... and pseudo science -subjective speculation, theories, and profit agendas...
According to Hollywood actor Neil DeGrasse Tyson, the Space Industrial Complex worldwide receives over 330 BILLION tax dollars annually to provide you with theme parks and Hollywood muuvies
... NASA alone receives $19 BILLION annually, (that is approx 50 million per day) to provide you sheople with cartoons, and cgi to keep you watchin the birdie and you PAY for it... willingly... suckers!!!

You learned about the Globe at 5 years old, like everyne else, before you had the ability to think critically, and you never questioned it ... ever
... the same time you also believed in Santa Claus... are you ever going to grow up and use your own senses to discern reality from fiction?

Bodies of water always seek level, continent to continent.. this is shown even in USGS cross section diagrams
... the military UT grid uses a flat earth grid to triangulate any remote wilderness location

Evidently some of you have a condition known as 'cognitive dissonance'... look it up, as I am certain you do not know what it means.

If the earth is a spinning globe (oblate spheroid) in the infinite vacuum of space then why does NASA in “NASA Reference Publication 1207 – August 1988” on page 30, refer to a “a stationary atmosphere over a flat, non-rotating earth”?
http://www.nasa.gov/centers/dryden/pdf/88104main_H-1391.pdf

http://www.atlanteanconspiracy.com/2015/08/200-proofs-earth-is-not-spinning-ball.html

https://vaultedearth.wordpress.com/2017/02/22/books-and-papers/?fbclid=IwAR1sUjZPulwuH0-lGjrhXpvMEt_d8ReeItQfTEDEnZpQbTnNVgmF0zhRbO4


kill your TV


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Sun 04/07/19 01:19 AM
Keep trying, we're all enjoying the joke! laugh laugh laugh laugh

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Sun 04/07/19 01:24 AM

If you are able to watch a ship sail off to sea, watch its mast and flag as it fades off into the distance. You will notice that, in fact, it does not "fade off into the distance" at all; instead, you will see its mast and flag appear to slowly sink. The ship sailed beyond the point at which you would see it. Just to be sure, bring a pair of binoculars with you so that you can see even farther off into the distance.

It's as if you're watching it go over to the other side of a hill. This phenomenon can only be explained by a sphere-shaped planet.

Strange that I've never seen photos of the 'edge' of this so-called 'flat' earth! Can anyone send me a picture so I know what will happen if I go to the edge and fall off?

flyingdutch93's photo
Sun 04/07/19 06:17 AM
"there is no stellar parallax"
How would you know?

"you rely solely on unfathomable numbers that no one can detect"
"Unfathomable numbers" are necessarily predicted by geometry given certain conditions are met. Those conditions are met.

"same case for curvature"
Which can be observed on a day-to-day basis.

"gravity"
Acceleration towards the Earth's surface.

"mass attraction"
Cavendish experiment.

"toilets flush in different directions in different basins and toilets in the same house... I've tried it.."
And no individual educated in physics would argue that to be the result of the Earth being a sphere or the coriolis effect.


"flat earthers have actually studied the globe"
Funny, because I've yet to meet one capable of performing basic geometric calculations, understand refraction, understand heliocentric motion and understand how to focus a telescope.


"read Eric Dubay's "200 Proofs the Earth is not a Spinning
Ball", for starters.."
Already did years ago. Complete and utter bunk.

"NO curvature has EVER been seen or detected"
Yes it has.

"high altitude balloons have taken 360 degree footage
from 120 thousand feet and it is level all the way around"
Nope.

"I can PROVE you wrong, the horizon RISES as you ascend.."
Nope you can't.

"and remains at your eye LEVEL, no matter how high you go"
Nope.

"if you were on a ball, the horizon would
fall away from you in all directions as you ascend"
Correct, which is precisely what occurs. The horizon dip angle is calculated by taking the arcsin of (distance horizon/(radius + observer height)).

no photo
Sun 04/07/19 06:27 AM
Still waiting for a photo of 'the edge' and stories of happens to people who 'fall off'. Curious that the media have never, ever, produced any such picture or story!

hardBNhard's photo
Sun 04/07/19 06:35 AM

Still waiting for a photo of 'the edge' and stories of happens to people who 'fall off'. Curious that the media have never, ever, produced any such picture or story!

Just look at the board game "RISK" noway . Its flat with edges laugh
Think i need to smoke me another fatty smokin . Im freakin myself out rofl
This thread is the product of how the internet is damaging for some ......people whoa

Narlycarnk's photo
Sun 04/07/19 07:03 AM
That makes sense about a plate or donut shaped planet being an unstable condition that would have to be changing shape very quickly.


Narlycarnk's photo
Sun 04/07/19 07:04 AM
A quote from the flat earth society:

Is flat earth theory connected to a religion?

Flat earth theory is neither officially nor unofficially associated with any religion. Throughout the ages various religious institutions have championed a flat earth model for the world. Unfortunately this leaves us with the vestigial thought that flat earth theory and religions are symbiotic. They are not, even though many religions today, both mainstream and otherwise, still teach its followers that the world is flat. While they are not incorrect, believing in a flat earth isn't contingent upon believing in a deity or being a part of any religion.

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