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Wed 04/10/19 08:54 PM
Edited by Earthica on Wed 04/10/19 08:59 PM

I'm not 'afraid' of anythinng or anyone! Just asking some questions, to which I have never had answers, like these:

If the earth is not round, it is (presumably?) flat. So where are the 'edges'? How far from me in the UK do I have to go in each direction to find an 'edge'? Simple question, surely?

What exists at the 'edge'? Simple question but no answer.

How would you explain ships and balloons that been 'round the world' if it is not round?

And the other questions I have asked. The answer to all of them is simple if the earth is round, as I believe. You make the challenge that it is not, so please answer my questions to prove your point.

So far your posts have all been vague and never answered any of the questions put by any of the other posters.



Evidently you want a one sentence fits all answer... have some patience and actually read what i have posted.. then follow up with your own investigation..
I dont think you really WANT to know the truth... or you would do just that

you can circumnavigate your own neighborhood ... walk in a circle and come back to your house
There is no north south east or west on a ball?
That is just plain ol common sense.

Have you ever heard of the Antarctic treaty?
... this is why WE are unable to explore the full dimensions of our reality
I queued this to relevant info for you... if you have 20 minutes ... lol

https://youtu.be/J7nPw_qC5nU?t=1407



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Tue 04/09/19 03:52 PM
Edited by Earthica on Tue 04/09/19 03:57 PM


There are other explanations for things
just take 10 minutes of your precious time here
and humor me
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2uxdntylhBo


Just for you, I looked at this. I also saw this and suggest you take a look:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qkRnJutL5ko

Where is the picture of the 'edge' of the planet? There isn't one because there isn't an 'edge' to a globe!

Who prevents people from visiting this 'edge' and taking photos? Don't say the military, because they've only been around very recently in the history of this planet. Who was there before we had military? How come these people never ever make a mistake and accidentally tell someone that their job is to prevent curious people from having a look at the 'egde'? How many people are involved in this conspiracy to confuse the rest of us? Any why is it so important to them that we are all so confused and get it wrong? What is the REASON for anyone wanting to do this?

No ansers yet, I'm still waiting. Hope you enjoyed that YouTube video clip. laugh laugh


The video you sent is based on false positives... just like you want me to show you the edge and Im not claiming any such thing... it's easy to debunk your own false positives... try real science... observable, testable and repeatable... Thisis merely spinning off of a flat earth hitpiece... nothing more... try doing some real investigation, instead of googling "debunk flat earth".. this kind of nonsense s all you're going to come up with... what are you afraid of?

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Tue 04/09/19 03:33 PM


There are other explanations for things
just take 10 minutes of your precious time here
and humor me
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2uxdntylhBo


Just for you, I looked at this. I also saw this and suggest you take a look:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qkRnJutL5ko

Where is the picture of the 'edge' of the planet? There isn't one because there isn't an 'edge' to a globe!

Who prevents people from visiting this 'edge' and taking photos? Don't say the military, because they've only been around very recently in the history of this planet. Who was there before we had military? How come these people never ever make a mistake and accidentally tell someone that their job is to prevent curious people from having a look at the 'egde'? How many people are involved in this conspiracy to confuse the rest of us? Any why is it so important to them that we are all so confused and get it wrong? What is the REASON for anyone wanting to do this?

No ansers yet, I'm still waiting. Hope you enjoyed that YouTube video clip. laugh laugh


I am not claiming there is any edge... where do you get that idea?
Do you believe that space is infinite?... if so... why is it so hard to consider that the earth may be infinite?
Space is sci fi... everything you see in the sky is part of the Earth... is it so hard to believe that we might actually be special and not a random accident that exploded out of nothing?

Earthica 's photo
Mon 04/08/19 03:59 PM

Yes, water does attempt to seek its own level.
What one might fail to realize is, level to what?
In relation to what?

I live near the Mississippi River.
On a fair weather day, I can go to parts of the river and it appears level.
In reality, that water is flowing downhill to the sea.
It appears level to me. Its all relative to the observer.

The oceans are anything but level.
There are many factors involved with the dynamics of oceans including temperatures, GRAVITY, undersea disturbances, salinity, wind, storms, undersea storms and mass displacement. The oceans are full of dips and rises in its level.

The Earth is not a perfect sphere.
It bulges at the equator because it is spinning.
The reason the ocean levels are as they are is because relatively the weight(mass) of the water column is insignificant to the weight(mass) of the planet under it.
Its the same reason why water spills out of the bowl you are holding when you tilt the bowl. The water is gravitationally bound to the Earth and spills when you move its container.
Fluids are fluids because their molecules have a lower electromotive force binding them, so they easily slip past one another.
The atmosphere that you breathe is also a fluid. It acts like an ocean of air. It too finds its own levels. Barometric air pressure is the weight(mass) of a column of air in relation to the weight(mass) of the planet under it.
Water also has what is called surface tension. The water at the edge of any container isn't feather-edged to a molecule thick. It just 'looks' that way.

If you drop a ball off a building.
The low mass of the ball falls in the direction of highest mass.
This is also the reason why you, trees, buildings, trash cans and everything else can stay vertical and upright no matter where you are on the Earth.
If you balance a pole on its end, it means you have centered its center of gravity over the planet's center of gravity.

Relative to the planet, our world view is tiny. Our mass is insignificant to the mass of the planet. On a sphere, no matter where you are located, gravity is determined by the mass below it. Its like shoving a toothpick thru the exact center of a ball. The toothpick representing the force of gravity.
This is why buildings in Alaska and buildings in Egypt stand vertical, its also why people in Antarctica and people in the Amazon stand vertical.
Its all relative to the center of the mass of the planet.

The Earth is not just a spinning globe. It is a spinning globe that has a tilt and that tilt is also spinning, like a top that is slowly spinning down.
Its why we have seasons.
Its also why it 'appears' the Sun and the Moon traverse the sky at different places at different times of the year. All which has been documented thru history long before movies, videos, photography and government mind control were possible.

Those big round balls you see in the sky are also spinning.
The dimmer one, we humans call it the Moon, has different phases as it spins around the Earth. You can see the shadow of the planet on the Moon when part of the light from the Sun is blocked by the Earth. You can actually see that the Earth is round because it appears as a crescent shadow on the moon.
You don't need a picture or a degree to see this, anyone that has eyes and can look into the sky at night can see this on a regular basis.

Since you were a sea captain you know about tides.
Because of the tidal force, the water on the side of the moon always wants to bulge out toward the moon. This bulge is what we call a high tide.
Again, oceans are not level.
There is a point at which the two shores on an ocean basin can experience no tide but the center of that body of water is in high tide. Not called tide because tide refers to the condition at the basin shoreline. So, in the Pacific, California may have a stable tide, Japan may have a stable tide but Guam and Hawaii may be experiencing different degrees of high tide.

The Earth-Moon barycenter is located on average 4,671 km (2,902 mi) from Earth's center. This means the Earth and Moon orbit each other (the Moon doesn't just orbit the Earth). Together they form a single system that orbits the Sun. The Sun-Earth barycenter is deep within the Sun. The Sun's Gravity also affects ocean tides.

The horizon is always relative to the observer.
As you ascend, your horizon does change but the horizon is not relative to location. If you align a point on your horizon (The tip of a church steeple far off in the distance) and you move upward, away from the surface of the planet, your horizon moves. Now the same point (tip of the church steeple) appears below the horizon. When you return to the ground, it is then again at the horizon. This is because your view from above the surface of the planet allows you to see past the arc of the planet relative to your view.
That, in itself explains the Earth is not flat.
Once being a sea captain you understand the concept of the "Crow's Nest" on a mast? It is to allow a 'view' beyond the deck's horizon. "Land HO"

In respect to this discussion, most people's sense is common.
Some attempt to promote NONsense and I personally am not interested in living in a world where nonsense is common.


There are other explanations for things
just take 10 minutes of your precious time here
and humor me

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2uxdntylhBo

Earthica 's photo
Mon 04/08/19 03:49 PM

Yes, water does attempt to seek its own level.
What one might fail to realize is, level to what?
In relation to what?

I live near the Mississippi River.
On a fair weather day, I can go to parts of the river and it appears level.
In reality, that water is flowing downhill to the sea.
It appears level to me. Its all relative to the observer.

The oceans are anything but level.
There are many factors involved with the dynamics of oceans including temperatures, GRAVITY, undersea disturbances, salinity, wind, storms, undersea storms and mass displacement. The oceans are full of dips and rises in its level.

The Earth is not a perfect sphere.
It bulges at the equator because it is spinning.
The reason the ocean levels are as they are is because relatively the weight(mass) of the water column is insignificant to the weight(mass) of the planet under it.
Its the same reason why water spills out of the bowl you are holding when you tilt the bowl. The water is gravitationally bound to the Earth and spills when you move its container.
Fluids are fluids because their molecules have a lower electromotive force binding them, so they easily slip past one another.
The atmosphere that you breathe is also a fluid. It acts like an ocean of air. It too finds its own levels. Barometric air pressure is the weight(mass) of a column of air in relation to the weight(mass) of the planet under it.
Water also has what is called surface tension. The water at the edge of any container isn't feather-edged to a molecule thick. It just 'looks' that way.

If you drop a ball off a building.
The low mass of the ball falls in the direction of highest mass.
This is also the reason why you, trees, buildings, trash cans and everything else can stay vertical and upright no matter where you are on the Earth.
If you balance a pole on its end, it means you have centered its center of gravity over the planet's center of gravity.

Relative to the planet, our world view is tiny. Our mass is insignificant to the mass of the planet. On a sphere, no matter where you are located, gravity is determined by the mass below it. Its like shoving a toothpick thru the exact center of a ball. The toothpick representing the force of gravity.
This is why buildings in Alaska and buildings in Egypt stand vertical, its also why people in Antarctica and people in the Amazon stand vertical.
Its all relative to the center of the mass of the planet.

The Earth is not just a spinning globe. It is a spinning globe that has a tilt and that tilt is also spinning, like a top that is slowly spinning down.
Its why we have seasons.
Its also why it 'appears' the Sun and the Moon traverse the sky at different places at different times of the year. All which has been documented thru history long before movies, videos, photography and government mind control were possible.

Those big round balls you see in the sky are also spinning.
The dimmer one, we humans call it the Moon, has different phases as it spins around the Earth. You can see the shadow of the planet on the Moon when part of the light from the Sun is blocked by the Earth. You can actually see that the Earth is round because it appears as a crescent shadow on the moon.
You don't need a picture or a degree to see this, anyone that has eyes and can look into the sky at night can see this on a regular basis.

Since you were a sea captain you know about tides.
Because of the tidal force, the water on the side of the moon always wants to bulge out toward the moon. This bulge is what we call a high tide.
Again, oceans are not level.
There is a point at which the two shores on an ocean basin can experience no tide but the center of that body of water is in high tide. Not called tide because tide refers to the condition at the basin shoreline. So, in the Pacific, California may have a stable tide, Japan may have a stable tide but Guam and Hawaii may be experiencing different degrees of high tide.

The Earth-Moon barycenter is located on average 4,671 km (2,902 mi) from Earth's center. This means the Earth and Moon orbit each other (the Moon doesn't just orbit the Earth). Together they form a single system that orbits the Sun. The Sun-Earth barycenter is deep within the Sun. The Sun's Gravity also affects ocean tides.

The horizon is always relative to the observer.
As you ascend, your horizon does change but the horizon is not relative to location. If you align a point on your horizon (The tip of a church steeple far off in the distance) and you move upward, away from the surface of the planet, your horizon moves. Now the same point (tip of the church steeple) appears below the horizon. When you return to the ground, it is then again at the horizon. This is because your view from above the surface of the planet allows you to see past the arc of the planet relative to your view.
That, in itself explains the Earth is not flat.
Once being a sea captain you understand the concept of the "Crow's Nest" on a mast? It is to allow a 'view' beyond the deck's horizon. "Land HO"

In respect to this discussion, most people's sense is common.
Some attempt to promote NONsense and I personally am not interested in living in a world where nonsense is common.


Thanks for all that regurgitated pseudo psaence..
but I have already heard it
the sky moves, not the earth..
do some real research... you have a good head on your shoulders but a clear case of cognitive dissonance... you are simply repeating things what you have been told, not what you have actually experienced.. and not things based on observation, experimentation and evidence


Earthica 's photo
Mon 04/08/19 10:18 AM

Water always seeks level
the hoRISEon always RISES to eye LEVEL... no matter how high one ascends


make sense common again

Earthica 's photo
Mon 04/08/19 09:40 AM

If I give someone some money, I get some food, or a house, in return. I don't think it is an illusion as I am sitting here in my house (that I paid for) using my desktop (that I paid for) and will soon be eating a meal (that I paid for).

On the other hand there are many websites inviting you to 'buy bitcoins and make a fortune' but they never tell you who will be paying for your 'profits'. Clearly most of these are scams, they take your money and vanish. If you had bought a lot of bitcoins when it was new you would today be very rich but as the value has gone up and down recently I think most people are losers. The only winners bought that currency when it first started, so we are all too late now.


Money has no inherent value.. it is based solely on debt, criminals printi it out of thin air... nothing backs it up... there is no difference in cryptos ... just a series of 1's and 0's in a computer .... just because people accept it for an "agreed" value, does not mean it HAS value... it is an agreement... agreements are in the mind and sometimes written on paper... still, they do not exist in nature

Earthica 's photo
Mon 04/08/19 09:02 AM
Edited by Earthica on Mon 04/08/19 09:04 AM
FLAT Earthers have studied more about the globe than any heliocentric believer (in such nonsense), has
Flat Earthers know more about orbital mechanics, propulsion in a vacuum, fluid mechanics, gravity, relativity, atmospheric refraction, perspective,,big bang, evolution, geology, astronomy, calculus, trigonometry, pressure systems, gyroscopes, sun dials, pendulums, line of sight convergence, putting 2 sticks in the sand, water level, centrifugal and centripetal forces , astrology, astronomy, satellites, Coriolis, Copernicus, Newton, Tesla, weapons testing, energy, frequency, Fibonacci, platonic solids, noble gases, weather systems, tides, eclipses, lunar and solar cycles, star trails, auroras, electricity, magnetism, buoyancy density, Antarctica and north pole expeditions, circumnavigation, piloting, space travel, escape velocity, moon landings, rocket science, dumb mass, mass attraction, art, deception, propaganda, star wars,submarines, torpedoes, periscopes, radio signals, camera lenses, telescopes, CGI fakery, mind control, and the military budget,...
... than any ball beLIEver knows about any single one of those things

Earthica 's photo
Mon 04/08/19 08:55 AM

There is utterly no point in arguing with someone who cannot fathom the word "context".

Every piece of so-called evidence provided thus far has been taken wildly out of context. A photo of a map proves nothing, no matter how many times you show it.

Nor does placing Admiral Byrd in front of a flat map mean anything.

You are creating your own fictional context based on what you WANT to believe.

It is called CONFIRMATION BIAS.

Study LOGIC before claiming to be an expert at deductive reasoning.

Learn about False Premises and Slippery Slopes and Straw Men. Your arguments are full of logical fallacies to which you turn a blind eye, and try to deflect by pointing fingers at anyone who disagrees.

As I said, typical brainwashing tactics. It's called GASLIGHTING.

So there is no point in arguing.

"The [denial] is strong in this one..." -- Darth Vader (what he was really thinking)


Just as I suspected, someone who can quote Darth Vader

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Sun 04/07/19 05:17 PM

Well Earthica ... Would you like to mix some (Bitcoin) with me :wink: xx


I am not quite sure what you mean

have you checked out RemedyCoin.com ?

Earthica 's photo
Sun 04/07/19 04:56 PM
Edited by Earthica on Sun 04/07/19 04:57 PM
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Money, as it stands, is based soley upon debt, it is an illusion, a mental construct,
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Sun 04/07/19 04:33 PM
GREAT CIRCLE SAILING.

"AMONG landsmen a great amount of misconception prevails as to what is really meant by the so-called "great circle sailing;" and notwithstanding that the subject is very imperfectly understood, the "project" or hypothesis--for it is nothing more--is often very earnestly advanced as an additional proof of the earth's rotundity. But, like all the other "proofs" which have been given, there is no necessary connection between the facts adduced and the theory sought to be proved. Although professional mariners are familiar with several modes of navigation--"parallel sailing," "plane sailing," "traverse sailing," "current sailing," "middle latitude sailing," "Mercator sailing," and "great circle sailing," the "Mercator" and "great circle" methods are now the favourites. Nearly all the above systems necessitated the sailing by, or in relation to, Rhumb-lines, or lines at right angles to the meridian lines; and whether the earth is a plane or a globe, these are not geometrically at right angles to lines of latitude, except at the equator. Hence Mercator's projection, on account of its lines of latitude and longitude being square to each other, has been almost universally employed. But previous to the general adoption of Mercator's plan, many leading navigators saw that Rhumb-line sailing upon a globe was practically a series of small circles, and conceived

p. 280

of a method very similar to that which is now called the "great circle" system. As early as 1495 Sebastian Cabot suggested the adoption of this method. It was also advocated in 1537 by Numez, and in 1561, and subsequently by Cortez, Zamarano, and others. After lying dormant for a long time, the system was revived by Mr. Towson, of Devonport, who read a paper before the Society of Arts, in May, 1850, and afterwards presented his "tables to facilitate the practice of great circle sailing," to the Lords Commissioners of the Admiralty, who "ordered them to be printed for the use of all mariners."

Many persons suppose that the words "great circle sailing" simply mean that the mariner, instead of sailing in a direct line from one place to another, on the same latitude, takes a circuitous path to the south or north of this direct line, where the degrees of longitude being smaller, the distance passed over, although apparently greater, is actually less. It is then falsely argued that as "the greatest distance round is the nearest path," the degrees of longitude must be smaller, and therefore the earth must be a globe. This is another instance of the self-deception practised by many of the advocates of rotundity. It is really painful to reflect upon the manner in which a merely fanciful hypothesis has reduced its advocates to mental prostitution. The poor dawdling creature, who vaguely wanders in search of anything or everything which will satisfy her longings, is only a type of the philosophical wanderer who seeks for, and pounces upon, whatever will prove, or only seem to prove, his one idea--his uncontrolled and often uncontrollable longing for something to confirm

p. 281

his notions, and satisfy his desire to be wise and great. The motive which actuates the greater number of modern philosophers, cannot be less or other than the love of distinction. If it were a love of truth and of human progress and welfare they would scrupulously examine the premises on which their theories are founded. But this the advocates of the earth's rotundity and motion have seldom or never done. There is no single instance recorded where even the necessity for doing so is admitted. Hence it is that whilst to question the groundwork is forbidden, they abruptly seize upon everything which gives colour to their assumptions, although in many cases neither pertinent nor logically consistent. In the case before us the contraction or convergence of the degrees of longitude beyond the equator is unproved; and again if they were convergent there could not be a single inch of gain in taking a so-called great circle course between any two places east and west of each other. Let the following experiment be tried in proof of this statement. On an artificial globe mark out a great circle path, between say Cape Town and Sydney, or Valparaiso and Cape Town. Take a strip of sheet lead, and bend it to the form of this path; and after making it straight measure its length as compared with the parallel of latitude between the places. The result will fully satisfy the experimenter that this view of great circle sailing is contrary to known geometrical principles. Strictly speaking, it is not "great circle sailing" at all which Mr. Towson and the Lords of the Admiralty have recommended. The words great circle are only used in comparison with the small circles which are described in sailing upon a Rhumb-line track.

p. 282

"The fundamental principle of this method is that axiom of spherical geometry, that the shortest distance between any two points on the surface of a sphere lies on the line of a great circle; or, in other words, of a circle passing through the centre of a sphere. But maps and charts, being flat representations of the surface of a globe, are of necessity distorted, and are only correct near the equator, the distortion increasing as the poles are approached; and hence it follows that the course which on the globe is the shortest, is on the chart made to appear very much the longest, and the reverse. This was clearly shown to be the case by the comparison on a chart and on a globe of the course between Van Dieman's Land and Voldivia, on the western coast of South America: the course, which by the chart appeared to be a straight line, when laid down upon the. globe was found to be very circuitous, whilst the line of a great circle, cutting the two points, appeared on the chart as a loop of great length." 1

"Mercator and parallel sailing conduct the ship by a circuitous route when compared with the track of a great circle." 2

In nautical language Rhumb-line sailing, which was almost universally practised before the recent introduction of great circle sailing, consists in following parallels at right angles to the meridian lines, and as these meridian lines are supposed to be convergent, it is evident that the course of a ship so navigated is not the most direct; a great circle path is one at angles less than 90° north and

p. 283

south of the meridian. If the reader will draw a series of Rhumb-lines on a map of "the globe," he will at once see that the course is circuitous. But if he draws lines at a slight angle north in the northern, and south in the southern region, to the above-named Rhumb-lines, he will readily notice that the ship's course is more direct, and therefore the mariner adopting the so-called "great circle'' method, must of necessity save both time and distance, but only in comparison with the Rhumb-line path. It is not absolutely the shortest route; as the earth is a plane, the degrees of longitude in the south must diverge or expand, and spread out as the latitude increases; and the parallels or lines of latitude must be circles concentric with the northern centre. Hence there is in reality a still shorter path than either the Rhumb-line or the great circle course.

This will at once be evident on trying the following simple experiment. Place a light, to represent the sun, at an elevation of say two feet on the centre of a round table. Draw lines from the centre to the circumference to represent meridian lines. Mark any two places to represent Cape Town and Melbourne; now take any small object to represent a ship sailing from one of these places to the other, and, on moving it forward, keeping the light at the same altitude all the way the line of latitude or path of the ship will be seen to be an arc of a circle, which practically is a great circle route, whilst the Rhumb-line and greater route would be represented by a series of tangents to the meridian lines between the two places. The nearest route geometrically possible is the chord or

p. 284

straight line joining the ends of the arc which forms the line of latitude. Let this line or chord be drawn, and all argument will be superfluous, the proposition will be immediately self-evident.

Thus we have seen that great circle sailing is not the shortest route possible, but merely shorter than several other routes, which have been theoretically suggested and adopted; and to affirm that the results are confirmatory or demonstrative of the earth's rotundity, is in the highest degree illogical."
Footnotes

282:1 "From "A Paper on the Principles of Great Circle Sailing," by Mr. J. T. Towson, of Devonport, in the "Journal of the Society of Arts," for May, 1850.

282:2 "Treatise on Navigation," p. 50. By. J. Greenwood, Esq., of Jesus College, Cambridge. Weale, 59, High Holborn, London.

Zetetic Astronomy, by 'Parallax' (pseud. Samuel Birley Rowbotham), [1881],

Earthica 's photo
Sun 04/07/19 04:29 PM

I have lived by the ocean all of my life. I don't need to watch t.v. or read books to know the Earth is not flat.

I have been on the water myself, in my own boat, to the same points where I saw ships begin shrinking on the horizon. I have seen the land shrink on the horizon. All I need is binoculars or a telescope, and I can measure the change. From that change, I can use my own math to calculate the curve of the Earth.

This is how I can observably prove that the science we are taught is correct.

'Nuff said.


I too grew up on the beach and was a sea captain of my own boat for 14 years

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Sun 04/07/19 04:24 PM


‘This report derives and defines a set of linearized system matrices for a rigid aircraft of constant mass, flying in a stationary atmosphere over a flat, nonrotating earth.’

Here is another government document, this time from the FAA, entitled …

that makes a Flat Earth reference.

On page 32, It states …

So in other words, for all intents and purposes, unless you are traveling at above Mach 3, or intend to travel into low Earth orbit or higher, then you should just consider the earth to be flat.

But if the Earth was truly curved then this would not work.

For example if you were flying from Sydney, on the east coast of Australia to Perth in Western Australia you would have to travel a distance of 2034 miles.

The alleged Earth curvature over that distance should be 522.37 miles. That means that unless the pilot constantly dipped the nose of the plane down towards the ground as he flew, by the time he reached Perth he would be flying at an altitude of 522.37 miles or 2,758,113 feet higher than he should be!

This fact alone proves the EARTH IS FLAT!

You can download the document directly from the FAA here.

https://www.faa.gov/about/office_org/headquarters_offices/ang/offices/tc/about/campus/faa_host/labs/tgf/media/AircraftDynamicsModel.pdf


slaphead

Not even close to what that report is saying.

Anything under Mach 3 cannot escape gravity, and therefore effectively follows a linear trajectory because they fly at a specific cruising altitude.

Meanwhile, craft that can achieve sub-orbital, orbital, or even escape velocities follow a ballistic trajectory like ICBMs, rockets, or the space shuttle.

Back in the 1980s, Lockheed was developing a ballistic airliner that could go from NYC to LA in 45 minutes. Why would they waste billions of dollars in R&D if they were privy to proof of a Flat Earth?


You would do well to learn the word, "allegedly"
your so called authorities have an agenda
the Earth is way bigger and has endless resources and lands that are hidden from you ... you are on a need to know basis

According to Admiral Byrd who has explored the north and south poles "There is an Area As Big As The United States on the Other Side of the South Pole"
(dont believe me?... you can hear him say it yourself in a 1950's interview)
Here's a photo of him from that interview, sitting in front of a Flat Earth map

https://proxy.duckduckgo.com/iu/?u=http%3A%2F%2Finfoclinic.co.za%2Fwp-content%2Fuploads%2F2016%2F01%2FCaptain-Bird-FE-MAP-BACK-GROUND.jpg&f=1

and here's yer girlfriend
https://proxy.duckduckgo.com/iu/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fi.pinimg.com%2F736x%2F1d%2Fe4%2F2d%2F1de42da7dd2c5a3ef699adc281e0cb12--flat-earth-proof-globe-earth.jpg&f=1


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Sun 04/07/19 04:04 PM
If you beLIEve you live on a globe... then get the money

"$10,000(TEN THOUSAND DOLLARS) CASH, WILL BE awarded to ANYONE who can provide ONE piece of FACTUAL and IRREFUTABLE evidence to support two things.
A). The CURVATURE of the alleged spinning ball earth
B). The MOTION of the alleged spinning ball earth"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i4OGSbaQ5jI&feature=youtu.be&fbclid=IwAR3qAQ8GsX759UpmJqsXs1JLtC7ADEqGLCw2m6Uo3S_ZE_CUbgYlldSZ8pA

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Sun 04/07/19 03:59 PM



Please provide proof.

Not links.

Not books.

Not youtube videos.

But your own proof. From you. Nobody else.

Provide a thorough logical analysis, using the laws of logic.

Don't show us name-calling or subjective assumptions about people you don't even know.


it's common sense... pure simple physics.. observable testable and repeatable
I have posted plenty of leads for you to vet out... now get busy


And you completely dodged the request.

How utterly predictable.

The only conclusion to be drawn from this is that YOU have no PERSONAL proof or observations. Only the "hearsay" of others.

I'm sorry, but the BURDEN OF EVIDENCE falls upon you, not us. You are the one trying to change common belief.

You say it's so obvious and easy, yet you have furnished NONE OF YOUR OWN PROOF.

Typical brainwashing tactics.



the onus of proof is on the one making the claim... not the one denying it
get your facts straight

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Sun 04/07/19 03:39 PM
Edited by Earthica on Sun 04/07/19 03:47 PM
I suggest you read all of my posts here before you keep repeating the same things that have already been addressed

no one is claiming there is an edge... where did you get that idea?

The Earth does not move... the sky does
everything thing you see in the sky is part of earth... not the other way around
the sun and moon are not millions of miles away... they are exactly where they appear to be... close and local... look at how shadows behave... there are hundreds of real observations and tests you can do
ships do not disappear over any imaginary curve... get a telescope... wait for the ship to disappear beyond your line of sight convergence... then zoom in on it.. it will come back into view, HULL AND ALL
(depending on visibility clarity
why cant we see Hawaii from California?... lmao
you cant see to the end of a long hallway...
learn about perspective and how the eyes work before you get your foot stuck in your throat

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Sun 04/07/19 03:35 PM
‘This report derives and defines a set of linearized system matrices for a rigid aircraft of constant mass, flying in a stationary atmosphere over a flat, nonrotating earth.’

Here is another government document, this time from the FAA, entitled …

that makes a Flat Earth reference.

On page 32, It states …

So in other words, for all intents and purposes, unless you are traveling at above Mach 3, or intend to travel into low Earth orbit or higher, then you should just consider the earth to be flat.

But if the Earth was truly curved then this would not work.

For example if you were flying from Sydney, on the east coast of Australia to Perth in Western Australia you would have to travel a distance of 2034 miles.

The alleged Earth curvature over that distance should be 522.37 miles. That means that unless the pilot constantly dipped the nose of the plane down towards the ground as he flew, by the time he reached Perth he would be flying at an altitude of 522.37 miles or 2,758,113 feet higher than he should be!

This fact alone proves the EARTH IS FLAT!

You can download the document directly from the FAA here.

https://www.faa.gov/about/office_org/headquarters_offices/ang/offices/tc/about/campus/faa_host/labs/tgf/media/AircraftDynamicsModel.pdf

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Sun 04/07/19 03:14 PM
Edited by Earthica on Sun 04/07/19 03:29 PM

You need to get away from your computer more and quit diving down those deep dark rabbit hole laugh
You must have hit your head on the way down one whoa
Get on a plane and take a trip then tell me the earth is flat. rofl


High altitude baloons at 120thousand feet record 360 degree footage completely level.... curvature has never been seen from any elevation... and the only photos that show curvature are with a fish eye lens ...
nice try.. but you're delusional
Next time you are on a plane.. look out the windows on BOTH sides and you will quickly realize that the horizon is at eye LEVEL ... if you were on a ball the horizon would fall away from you in all directions.. but it doesnt .. it remains at your eye LEVEL no matter how high you ascend..
learn about physics bro
If you THINK you see curvature it is because the windows are slightly convex to follow the hull of the plane... plus they are designed with multiple panes... watch a few videos and you will see that the same curvature that you THINK you see up in the air.. you will also see on the ground before the plane even takes off... lmao!
Man you people are slow

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Sun 04/07/19 02:56 PM
To everyone who is trying to say that YouTube is not credible and cannot be used.

It's literally ridiculous I have to explain this to you....

YOUTUBE IS NOT A SOURCE. It is simply a medium in which is used to transfer and spread information. A source is the actual content that is contained in the material and where it came from including authors. You can also find sources listed in the description below the video. ....lol there are not little elves sitting in the back of a sweat shop recording videos for YouTube.

If the source is valid then YES THE YOUTUBE VIDEO IS A GREAT WAY TO SHOW OTHERS YOUR PERSPECTIVE AND GIVE THEM VISUALS and YES it is VALID.

....... And the same thing applies to MEMES which are simply pictures with words as a description. If you've ever read a book you will find the same exact structure words and pictures. Visual aids are extremely helpful with comprehension.

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