there are so many areas of life where people just go with the flow that they may dislike or disagree with or that might even be wrong or illegal,
because of the perception that there is more risk than gain in doing otherwise.

For instance, many dont report rape or sexual abuse, many dont report violations or harassment at work, many dont report crimes they may witness or be victims of. Companies all over rely on this attitude with 'money back guarantees' that they know most will not bother with trying to get.

It is a calculation of sorts. Similar to how one probably would not invest 100 bucks on an apple, many see the required investment of emotion, or time, or money, or risk is not WORTH whatever gain may be there, let alone the odds of that gain being the reality.

When someone says 'whats the point?' do you think it may just be a matter of picking their battles, or do you see it only as some cowardly cop out? or is it something in between or different? I think we have all said 'whats the point?" When have you?

we don’t win anything ms, harmony.
are you broke like me?
do you think I’m crazy?
i hate the damn bleach.that is all

I think there as many reasons to say "What's the point" as there are people and circumstances.

you not only calculate the effect you calculate the significance and justify the effort or lack of effort to get the expected results.
If you repeatedly do not get the expected results on action or inaction you make, you gain wisdom that there is no point in continuing that action in hopes of results that do not occur.

If I stand on a street and flap my arms like a bird flaps its wings, no matter how well I flap my arms, I am not going to fly. There is no point in continuing to flap my arms expecting to fly. I stop the action that yields no expected results.

If I stop doing my dishes and there is nobody else around to do my dishes no matter how long I do not act, those dishes will not get washed. What is the point of inaction and expecting results?


Your example is more of an example of not trying to affect a change than it is a simple assessment of reasoning. In those cases, victims usually do not just say "What's the Point". Abandoning an action without trying is a personality issue probably rooted in victimology and self-esteem issues more than it is a action/result strategy.

Any fairly intelligent person with the ability to reason will abandon action because they sense it to not lead to a desired result. Commonly referred to as a waste of time and effort.

While one person may see an action as a waste of time, another may see it as a worthy endeavor. Its as individual as the circumstances and the personality.

No reasonable person acts on every impulse.
No reasonable person abandons every impulse.

the point

I really don't know why Msharmony's post is always very long?
why Tom4Uhere's answer is even longer ?
what is the point ???

haaaa,, great example mankum ...

It used to be a concert venue in Dublin

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Point_Theatre

It could be something different.

For example, suppose that reporting a crime would result in others learning where you were at the time of the crime and what you were doing.

What if you were some place that you weren't supposed to be and doing something that you weren't supposed to be doing?

In such a case, you might not report the crime because you don't want your own misbehavior to be revealed.

I don't understand why it matters?

lol short attention spans

Depends on what they're saying "what's the point" to.
Sometimes people say "what's the point" simply as a means of avoiding saying something else, sarcasm.


The only thing that makes someone a coward is not living up to expectations, otherwise "cowards" don't really exist.
It's just a term meant to socially shame people to behave consistently and live up to expectations, threaten group ostracizing.


Sure.


Many times, sometimes internally, sometimes out loud.
Sometimes out of a depressed realization and feeling sorry for myself, sometimes when trying to figure out something I'm being trained to do where seeing the end goal will help crystallize the process.
Sometimes a variation, like I see a bad driver weave through traffic dangerously speeding only to come to a screeching halt and say "soooo, genius...what was the point of that"



Mental and emotional masturbation.
That's pretty much ultimately the point to everything. Survival and/or pleasure/stress reduction.

ciretom




so true

Picking battle or a cop out? Depends on the person, the situation, and the perspective.

Right now, I'm debating "what's the point" of staying on Mingle. There are things about this site that I wish I didn't know. As is said, ignorance is bliss. For me, every time I think I've got things going good on Mingle, one of those things-I-wish-I-didn't-know creeps up to ruin it. That's why I've left Mingle twice before. It's not worth the aggravation.

The first time I left, I had made multiple attempts to rectify a situation that was creating undue drama. To no avail. No matter what I did or how I approached the situation, I was publicly made out to be the bad guy. And yet, the source of this drama would not give me any space in the forums. Would follow me from thread to thread. I had no choice but to leave before somebody got banned over it. To this day, it leaves a bad taste in my mouth.

The end result is that I no longer trust Minglers. Everyone is suspect. No offense to any of you. It's just the reality I've come to accept.

So whenever I see something suspicious happen here, the first thing I wonder is, "What kind of drama is going on now?" More often than not, somebody will post something that hints at a clue. Then it becomes, "Oh no.....here we go again..."

That's why I left a second time, a little over a year ago. I saw the drama gearing up. I saw posts getting deleted. It was to the point where I couldn't even tell whether there was one situation or several or even what the sides were. Even though it had nothing to do with me, it gave me headaches and ruined the experience of being here. So I left.

I'm using all of this as an example because for me it's a matter of choosing my battles and my environment. I don't like situations where one must be paranoid in order to survive. Too much negative energy. Too exhausting. Too....depressing.

Right now, that's what I'm feeling, and it's not why I come here.

I can sense that something isn't right, but I don't have enough information to fully process what little I've witnessed. But whatever it is, it has somehow place me in the crossfire. That's not someplace I want to be. And I don't enjoy not having a say in the matter. Therefore I wonder why I even bother.

In essence, what's the point?

Agree. Sometimes 'what's the point' can come from sheer exhaustion.

It matters because most people are put off by the volume of words. Even if there is a good point in there somewhere it is crushed by the sheer weight.

Being succinct in forums is usually helpful to entice people to read what you have to say. Some might say that if a person is unwilling to read through long winded posts they are not smart enough to comprehend or whatever. I say that's a load of crap.

The reality is, no one is breaking any new ground with any of these questions or answers, anyway...

If people have too short of an attention span to read a long post, then why are the frequenting a forum in the first place?

Why are blogs so popular then?

If someone consistently refuses to read long posts, the problem isn't the writer, it's the reader. To say otherwise is akin to victim-blaming.

That is, it's like telling a beaten woman that she shouldn't have fallen on the man's fist.

That's crap. Most people do not like long winded writers, myself included. Just get to the point. Do you like being in a conversation (monologue actually) when you're being filibustered?

Cranky, we know you're a contrarian, so I'm not gonna argue. Just stating my opinion.

Whether you actually believe what you write, there's no winning with you. I've played the contrarian enough myself to know how it works. I've done a lot of competitive debating in the past.

Heck, I have a friend who does the same thing because he just likes a good argument, and tries to goad people into one.

Nothing personal. Just sayin'.