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Topic: violence at the pride parade
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Thu 07/05/18 11:28 AM




I don't think anyone is claiming behavior is exclusive. Just certain behaviors are dominant in different race and gender.


really? What race is violent behavior 'dominant' in exactly?


Well in NYC ( home to 11 million people) and at 75%... that would be .... black

Didn't sink in?.. o.k... here it is again.... black



logic not sinking in for you? because you can attribute a percentage of violence to a specific group in a certain region, does not attribute that attribute to the ENTIRE Group from which the SUB group is pulled. so EVEN when most of a crime in an area is by a certain race, it doesnt follow that that behavior is dominant IN that race, unless it is also shown that the majority of ALL In the race in engage in said behavior.

let me help with that again.

In america MASS shootings are OVERWHELMINGLY white males who are not from 'ghettos'. However, I dont hear peanut gallery comments when mass shootings occur like 'you can take the man out of the suburbs, but you cant take the suburbs out of the man'


Why is that? Because these individuals are not mass shooters because they were from the suburbs, NOR do MOST suburbanites commit mass shootings.


got it yet?





Is the suburbs a bad place?.. if so, why are people trying their best to move there.. I don't recall people breaking down the doors to move into the projects.

And frankly I really don't care where they physically live.. be it the projects.. a walk up.. a apartment.. or the subway station.
75% of the violent crimes committed in NYC are committed by .. blacks. And the vast majority live in section 8 housing projects. the ghetto. These are facts, so live with it.. o.k.

And the brick and mortar they live in has not made their character it has not failed them.. that was molded and forged by the upbringing they had and their surroundings.

That is where the core failure is. How they were raised.



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Thu 07/05/18 11:35 AM





I don't think anyone is claiming behavior is exclusive. Just certain behaviors are dominant in different race and gender.


really? What race is violent behavior 'dominant' in exactly?


Well in NYC ( home to 11 million people) and at 75%... that would be .... black

Didn't sink in?.. o.k... here it is again.... black



logic not sinking in for you? because you can attribute a percentage of violence to a specific group in a certain region, does not attribute that attribute to the ENTIRE Group from which the SUB group is pulled. so EVEN when most of a crime in an area is by a certain race, it doesnt follow that that behavior is dominant IN that race, unless it is also shown that the majority of ALL In the race in engage in said behavior.

let me help with that again.

In america MASS shootings are OVERWHELMINGLY white males who are not from 'ghettos'. However, I dont hear peanut gallery comments when mass shootings occur like 'you can take the man out of the suburbs, but you cant take the suburbs out of the man'


Why is that? Because these individuals are not mass shooters because they were from the suburbs, NOR do MOST suburbanites commit mass shootings.


got it yet?





Is the suburbs a bad place?.. if so, why are people trying their best to move there.. I don't recall people breaking down the doors to move into the projects.

And frankly I really don't care where they physically live.. be it the projects.. a walk up.. a apartment.. or the subway station.
75% of the violent crimes committed in NYC are committed by .. blacks. And the vast majority live in section 8 housing projects. the ghetto. These are facts, so live with it.. o.k.

And the brick and mortar they live in has not made their character it has not failed them.. that was molded and forged by the upbringing they had and their surroundings.

That is where the core failure is. How they were raised.




of course the suburbs isnt a "bad place"(at least not in terms of recorded crime), but what has that to do with the original topic though, ATtibuting bad behavior to whether someone is from a ghetto or not?

What has that to do with making the claim that violence is somehow DOMINANT in the BLACK RACE? (considering the MAJORITY of blacks are not committing violence)


and try to understand the concept that the majority of behavior A is committed by B group is NOT the same as the majority of B group commits behavior A.

however you chalk it up, assuming someone being violent is from a 'ghetto' is shallow and bigoted.



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Thu 07/05/18 05:04 PM
try for just one minute to grasp that the majority of the violent crimes in NYC are committed by blacks, same for Chicago, ect, ect. most any urban area.

Bigotry?.. maybe in your book.. not mine. If it were Asians.. I would say so..latino's..no problem whites ( any nationality)... fair game to me.

I got into it a few years ago with a IRA supporter right here on Mingle. In my book the IRA was nothing but terrorists.. murders of innocent women and children, when they bombed stores in England. Did I believe England needed to get out of Ireland.. being Irish you bet your a*s I did, but turning a blind eye to what "my" people were doing would be flat out wrong.

A criminal is a criminal MS.

I call it the way is based on fact and backed up. Not based on some warped agenda that sees the rainbow in only one color.

So, you calling me a bigot doesn't carry much weight ;)

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Thu 07/05/18 05:32 PM




I don't think anyone is claiming behavior is exclusive. Just certain behaviors are dominant in different race and gender.


really? What race is violent behavior 'dominant' in exactly?


Well in NYC ( home to 11 million people) and at 75%... that would be .... black

Didn't sink in?.. o.k... here it is again.... black



logic not sinking in for you? because you can attribute a percentage of violence to a specific group in a certain region, does not attribute that attribute to the ENTIRE Group from which the SUB group is pulled. so EVEN when most of a crime in an area is by a certain race, it doesnt follow that that behavior is dominant IN that race, unless it is also shown that the majority of ALL In the race in engage in said behavior.

let me help with that again.

In america MASS shootings are OVERWHELMINGLY white males who are not from 'ghettos'. However, I dont hear peanut gallery comments when mass shootings occur like 'you can take the man out of the suburbs, but you cant take the suburbs out of the man'


Why is that? Because these individuals are not mass shooters because they were from the suburbs, NOR do MOST suburbanites commit mass shootings.


got it yet?



you might wanna check your facts... suburban, white males are more newsworthy than a hoodrat shooting up a rival gangs den...more mass shootings happen in the hoods than anywhere else, it's just nobody cares about it...

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Thu 07/05/18 05:45 PM
Edited by ElissaIsTrans on Thu 07/05/18 05:50 PM



ty,

I feel people equating bad behavior with 'ghetto' are no different than those equating feminine behavior with 'gay'

but there is probably a good deal of overlap going on with people who have such a mindset ...


The LGBT community has always been the centre of judgement.
What I find most sad is that those who yell “ tranny and shemale “ after a trans woman and call out every guy who is attracted to a trans woman, well, those guys are the first to message me and ask for “ some discrete fun “ . That is hurtful. Those same people proclaiming and justifying hate against LGBT people are the first to contact trans women and lesbian women, to have some “ fun “ .
Sad huh?

no, not sad at all...when you try to tell yourself and everyone else you're a woman when it's not true that pisses people off...when you lie to yourself and everyone around you, your gonna get negative feedback... No matter what, you're never gunna change and apple into an orange, no matter what lies you tell yourself and everyone else....



I could care less about your opinion.
Since it’s not founded on truths but on assumptions.

You obviously have never read a medical paper about gender dysphoria. We are not changing apples into oranges here, sweetheart, we are changing apples into apples and oranges into oranges.

Gender dysphoria has been the centre of scientific investigation for decades.
Dr Swaab, a pioneer in the field of gender dysphoric neurology, has been the first one to document that trans women have the same brain structure in the hypothalamus, as a cis woman has. The hypothalamus , just above the thyroid gland , is the centre of our sexuality and gender identity. It is for humans what the black box is for an airplane. It gives us a wealth of information.

Gender dysphoria develops in the womb. During the 7th-12th week of pregnancy, the genitalia start to form. During the last trimester of pregnancy the brains start to form. Because there is an interval of 5-6 months between the development of the genitalia and the development of the brains, someone can be born with a female brain wiring, but with male genitalia. This is called transsexuality. It manifests very early in childhood and causes a lot of distress. During puberty it gets worse.
Conversion therapy has never proven to be effective. The suicide rates kept increasing after conversion therapy.
When a trans individual transitions during late teens or early 20s the individual will be able to live a normal life in the desired sex. When an individual is forced to be closeted until their 50s or 60s, that is when a trans individual keeps facing discrimination.

Trans people are not becoming something else by going through gender transition.
We are becoming who we mentally have always been.

Gender dysphoria is a biological condition, not a mental ilness.

Trans women feel much less stressed after starting estrogen replacement therapy.
Trans men feel less stressed when starting testosterone replacement therapy.
Sex change regret is very very rare. Less than 1% of transitioned trans people regret having transitioned.
Those who regret do not regret the medical procedures they underwent. They regret the social discrimination.

A Spanish research team discovered in 2015 that trans women have more white mass in the left brain half, than in the right brain half. The verbal part of the brain functions better than the spatial part of the brain. This is also the case in cis women. In cis men it’s the other way around.
The researchers also concluded that the brains of trans women have the same connection between the small brains and the large brains, just like cis women have.

Trans people feel happy with the changes we get from our hormone replacement therapy. Do you think this would also be the case if a man started taking female hormones? Nope.
If a man took female hormones he would feel anxiety from the drop in his sex drive and he would feel depressed by the occurring feminization effects on his body.
This is not the case with trans women. We feel more in tune with ourselves once we start feminizing on estrogen. Again evidence that this is a biological issue.
Men with prostate cancer who get prescribed estrogen to fight the tumor activity feel horrible on female hormones.
Trans women feel great on female hormones.

The vast majority of countries in the world allow trans women to change our birth certificate and passports. Even countries where the Sharia rules recognise trans women as women.
Iran, one of the most severe muslim countries in the world recognises trans women as women.

Denying that trans women are women is just going against what scientific evidence says.

After being on hormone replacement therapy a trans woman has the body fat redistribution of a woman. Our emotions become more feminine. We start losing muscle mass.
The testicles start to atrophy.
Body hair thins out.

Gender reassignment surgery completes the process. It creates a fully functional neo-vagina. Not even some gynaecologists can tell the difference.

In Canada, where gay men who have sex with men can’t give blood due to HIV concerns, trans women are allowed to give blood. We are recognised as women by the Canadian government.

The Welsh church in the UK, forbids marriage between gay men but is happy to marry a trans woman and a cis man. It is recognised to be a heterosexual marriage.

You should do a bit more research before you speak.
Sodom and Gomorra from the Bible are not scientific references. Medical literature founded with scientific claims is acceptable argumentation.

Your hate towards trans people is based on false prejudices.
It’s 2018, darling.

mightymoe's photo
Thu 07/05/18 06:10 PM




ty,

I feel people equating bad behavior with 'ghetto' are no different than those equating feminine behavior with 'gay'

but there is probably a good deal of overlap going on with people who have such a mindset ...


The LGBT community has always been the centre of judgement.
What I find most sad is that those who yell “ tranny and shemale “ after a trans woman and call out every guy who is attracted to a trans woman, well, those guys are the first to message me and ask for “ some discrete fun “ . That is hurtful. Those same people proclaiming and justifying hate against LGBT people are the first to contact trans women and lesbian women, to have some “ fun “ .
Sad huh?

no, not sad at all...when you try to tell yourself and everyone else you're a woman when it's not true that pisses people off...when you lie to yourself and everyone around you, your gonna get negative feedback... No matter what, you're never gunna change and apple into an orange, no matter what lies you tell yourself and everyone else....



I could care less about your opinion.
Since it’s not founded on truths but on assumptions.

You obviously have never read a medical paper about gender dysphoria. We are not changing apples into oranges here, sweetheart, we are changing apples into apples and oranges into oranges.

Gender dysphoria has been the centre of scientific investigation for decades.
Dr Swaab, a pioneer in the field of gender dysphoric neurology, has been the first one to document that trans women have the same brain structure in the hypothalamus, as a cis woman has. The hypothalamus , just above the thyroid gland , is the centre of our sexuality and gender identity. It is for humans what the black box is for an airplane. It gives us a wealth of information.

Gender dysphoria develops in the womb. During the 7th-12th week of pregnancy, the genitalia start to form. During the last trimester of pregnancy the brains start to form. Because there is an interval of 5-6 months between the development of the genitalia and the development of the brains, someone can be born with a female brain wiring, but with male genitalia. This is called transsexuality. It manifests very early in childhood and causes a lot of distress. During puberty it gets worse.
Conversion therapy has never proven to be effective. The suicide rates kept increasing after conversion therapy.
When a trans individual transitions during late teens or early 20s the individual will be able to live a normal life in the desired sex. When an individual is forced to be closeted until their 50s or 60s, that is when a trans individual keeps facing discrimination.

Trans people are not becoming something else by going through gender transition.
We are becoming who we mentally have always been.

Gender dysphoria is a biological condition, not a mental ilness.

Trans women feel much less stressed after starting estrogen replacement therapy.
Trans men feel less stressed when starting testosterone replacement therapy.
Sex change regret is very very rare. Less than 1% of transitioned trans people regret having transitioned.
Those who regret do not regret the medical procedures they underwent. They regret the social discrimination.

A Spanish research team discovered in 2015 that trans women have more white mass in the left brain half, than in the right brain half. The verbal part of the brain functions better than the spatial part of the brain. This is also the case in cis women. In cis men it’s the other way around.
The researchers also concluded that the brains of trans women have the same connection between the small brains and the large brains, just like cis women have.

Trans people feel happy with the changes we get from our hormone replacement therapy. Do you think this would also be the case if a man started taking female hormones? Nope.
If a man took female hormones he would feel anxiety from the drop in his sex drive and he would feel depressed by the occurring feminization effects on his body.
This is not the case with trans women. We feel more in tune with ourselves once we start feminizing on estrogen. Again evidence that this is a biological issue.
Men with prostate cancer who get prescribed estrogen to fight the tumor activity feel horrible on female hormones.
Trans women feel great on female hormones.

The vast majority of countries in the world allow trans women to change our birth certificate and passports. Even countries where the Sharia rules recognise trans women as women.
Iran, one of the most severe muslim countries in the world recognises trans women as women.

Denying that trans women are women is just going against what scientific evidence says.

After being on hormone replacement therapy a trans woman has the body fat redistribution of a woman. Our emotions become more feminine. We start losing muscle mass.
The testicles start to atrophy.
Body hair thins out.

Gender reassignment surgery completes the process. It creates a fully functional neo-vagina. Not even some gynaecologists can tell the difference.

In Canada, where gay men who have sex with men can’t give blood due to HIV concerns, trans women are allowed to give blood. We are recognised as women by the Canadian government.

The Welsh church in the UK, forbids marriage between gay men but is happy to marry a trans woman and a cis man. It is recognised to be a heterosexual marriage.

You should do a bit more research before you speak.
Sodom and Gomorra from the Bible are not scientific references. Medical literature founded with scientific claims is acceptable argumentation.

Your hate towards trans people is based on false prejudices.
It’s 2018, darling.

the only thing false here is you...you were born a male... No mount of money or doctors can change that fact...I'm not gunna coddle any of y'all, you think make believe changing your gender is being productive, the only thing you can change to be happier is your mind....

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Thu 07/05/18 06:13 PM
Run its course..we do not tolerate prejudice,
particularly lifestyle here on the forums.

soufie
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