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| Topic: Another senseless shooting! | |
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What the cops are supposed to do, IMHO, is consider this: IF is the operative word, IFS dont mattter, because they are unknown. Deal in the known and current THREAT. if a kid is running away with their back turned to you, that is not a threat. you dont know that and the cops dont know that at that time everything is happening so fast. Its great to be a monday morning armchair quarterback and assess the situation after its done. its like those weekend sport warriors in front of the TV set yelling at the quarterback why did you throw that pass in double coverage, meanwhile they dont see that the quarterback left tackle missed his block and the Linebacker making a beeline towards the QB is about about to plant him the QB like WWE wrestler on the turf. Split second decisions are not the same as having time to analyze the situation. not really the same thing. quarterbacks walk away. This kid will never have the chance. Thats what they are paid to do, make those decisions. and the decision to shoot a running 'suspect' in their back is a poor one. |
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Im not comparing the kid death to NFL quarterbacks Miss Harmony
I used the example of NFL quarterback making a split second decision on how they are criticized by arm chair quarterbacks who have never played the game. The cop made a split second decision, unfortunately it resulted in the loss of life, and it could have been the other way around but no one will ever know |
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What the cops are supposed to do, IMHO, is consider this: IF is the operative word, IFS dont mattter, because they are unknown. Deal in the known and current THREAT. if a kid is running away with their back turned to you, that is not a threat. you dont know that and the cops dont know that at that time everything is happening so fast. Its great to be a monday morning armchair quarterback and assess the situation after its done. its like those weekend sport warriors in front of the TV set yelling at the quarterback why did you throw that pass in double coverage, meanwhile they dont see that the quarterback left tackle missed his block and the Linebacker making a beeline towards the QB is about about to plant him the QB like WWE wrestler on the turf. Split second decisions are not the same as having time to analyze the situation. not really the same thing. quarterbacks walk away. This kid will never have the chance. Thats what they are paid to do, make those decisions. and the decision to shoot a running 'suspect' in their back is a poor one. |
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Im not comparing the kid death to NFL quarterbacks Miss Harmony I used the example of NFL quarterback making a split second decision on how they are criticized by arm chair quarterbacks who have never played the game. The cop made a split second decision, unfortunately it resulted in the loss of life, and it could have been the other way around but no one will ever know probably half of poor decisions are split second, that may be the reason police get TRAINING, so as to not make the same poor split second choices the average jack/jill might. |
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probably half of poor decisions are split second, that may be the reason police get TRAINING, so as to not make the same poor split second choices the average jack/jill might. we can sit here and dissect and debate until the cows comes home,no amount of training can determine an outcome because each situation is different. there are many times where cops chased guys and ended up being killed later, you just dont know. In this case the kids didn't have a gun on their persons they left it in the car but that wasn't determined at that time. do you know how many police are shot during police chases , how about the killing of Commander Paul Bauer in Chicago https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/2018/02/13/high-ranking-chicago-officer-killed-5th-cop-slain-u-s-since-last-week/335315002/ yeah , yeah its easy to say that is what they signed up for and the dangers of the job and that is my point, the dangers of the job requires them to protect the public Who protected the young men shot before the fatal shooting of that 17 year old ? This is why Ive said look at the big picture. focusing on the fact that the kid was killed is??? I cant think of the word right now. |
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Edited by
Viper1j
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Mon 07/02/18 11:29 AM
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Split second decisions are not the same as having time to analyze the situation. "Split second? WTF?? The kid was RUNNING AWAY! He could have unpacked a picnic lunch and ate and still not be in any danger from the kid that had his back to him. Wait... Maybe the kid had four arms and eyes in the back of his head! Somebody call MIB! 
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[ probably half of poor decisions are split second, that may be the reason police get TRAINING, so as to not make the same poor split second choices the average jack/jill might. we can sit here and dissect and debate until the cows comes home,no amount of training can determine an outcome because each situation is different. there are many times where cops chased guys and ended up being killed later, you just dont know. In this case the kids didn't have a gun on their persons they left it in the car but that wasn't determined at that time. do you know how many police are shot during police chases , how about the killing of Commander Paul Bauer in Chicago https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/2018/02/13/high-ranking-chicago-officer-killed-5th-cop-slain-u-s-since-last-week/335315002/ yeah , yeah its easy to say that is what they signed up for and the dangers of the job and that is my point, the dangers of the job requires them to protect the public Who protected the young men shot before the fatal shooting of that 17 year old ? This is why Ive said look at the big picture. focusing on the fact that the kid was killed is??? I cant think of the word right now. the fact that not everyone is protected from everything, also is irrelevant to the fact of the job COPS are PAID to do when they ARE present in a situation ..... there is nothing more important to focus on than the fact that a kid running scared was shot in the back and killed. |
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"Split second? WTF?? The kid was RUNNING AWAY! He could have unpacked a picnic lunch and ate and still not be in any danger from the kid that had his back to him. Wait... Maybe the kid had four arms and eyes in the back of his head! Somebody call MIB! Is the orange juice worth the squeeze? |
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Last night I watched American jail. Most of it was bs. They showed 3 white women who had been arrested. 2 for dui and 1 for child support. They claimed "the system" was keeping them down. But the reality is their families and friends were tired of their bs and left them there. They were talking about how expensive bonds are. I've made a couple bonds in my life. The last one cost me $20. I made a property bond. If you don't have any family or friends who own property, you are a bunch of unambitious losers. Even then a bails bondsman is 10%.
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Bonds are a rip off.
the ones who need them the most are usually the ones that cant afford them. Perhaps that is one more reason the impoverished are sitting in jails much more often than the wealthy.... |
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So...
If a hoodrat fleeing felon doesn't want to get shot by police... Perhaps the hoodrat fleeing felon should have chosen another career. 
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So... If a hoodrat fleeing felon doesn't want to get shot by police... Perhaps the hoodrat fleeing felon should have chosen another career. that works, lets pretend that criminals and suspects have a tax paid career that makes their choices the equivalent of those of a policeman ...  |
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Bonds are a rip off. the ones who need them the most are usually the ones that cant afford them. Perhaps that is one more reason the impoverished are sitting in jails much more often than the wealthy.... A bond is a guarantee that the person will show up for court. Dui is a misdemeanor. The bond can't be very much. It has less to do with being poor and more about being shot out. |
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May their souls rest in peace.
I doubt Trump loses sleep over this though. He is a clear fan of the 2nd ammendment. “ guns don’t kill people, people do “ is his slogan. |
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So... If a hoodrat fleeing felon doesn't want to get shot by police... Perhaps the hoodrat fleeing felon should have chosen another career. that works, lets pretend that criminals and suspects have a tax paid career that makes their choices the equivalent of those of a policeman ... huh? |
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So... If a hoodrat fleeing felon doesn't want to get shot by police... Perhaps the hoodrat fleeing felon should have chosen another career. that works, lets pretend that criminals and suspects have a tax paid career that makes their choices the equivalent of those of a policeman ... huh? comparing the 'career' of a 'hoodrat' to the 'career' of a cop. the latter is civil servant paid by the people. |
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comparing the 'career' of a 'hoodrat' to the 'career' of a cop. the latter is civil servant paid by the people. okayyyyy, but hoodrats are not hired to protect and serve, well maybe protect their turf and serve their gang leaders. |
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Last night I watched American jail. Most of it was bs. They showed 3 white women who had been arrested. 2 for dui and 1 for child support. They claimed "the system" was keeping them down. But the reality is their families and friends were tired of their bs and left them there. They were talking about how expensive bonds are. I've made a couple bonds in my life. The last one cost me $20. I made a property bond. If you don't have any family or friends who own property, you are a bunch of unambitious losers. Even then a bails bondsman is 10%. The majority of the time it is not the bond issue, fact is.they can't get out of jail because no one wants them out of jail. not their families, not their friends.. no one. what does that tell you about them |
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So... If a hoodrat fleeing felon doesn't want to get shot by police... Perhaps the hoodrat fleeing felon should have chosen another career. that works, lets pretend that criminals and suspects have a tax paid career that makes their choices the equivalent of those of a policeman ... huh? comparing the 'career' of a 'hoodrat' to the 'career' of a cop. the latter is civil servant paid by the people. I made no such comparison. However; For those who need help with comprehension, If a criminal doesn't want to get shot while committing a crime... They should choose a new career, that doesn't involve being a criminal, or committing crimes. |
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So... If a hoodrat fleeing felon doesn't want to get shot by police... Perhaps the hoodrat fleeing felon should have chosen another career. that works, lets pretend that criminals and suspects have a tax paid career that makes their choices the equivalent of those of a policeman ... huh? comparing the 'career' of a 'hoodrat' to the 'career' of a cop. the latter is civil servant paid by the people. I made no such comparison. However; For those who need help with comprehension, If a criminal doesn't want to get shot while committing a crime... They should choose a new career, that doesn't involve being a criminal, or committing crimes. sense I dont want tom dick and harry deciding who is a 'criminal', Id rather SUSPECTS of crimes not be shot RUNNING from cops. easier to set expectations for someone being paid to do a job, than for someone who is a free agent making their own choice. |
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