Bill Maher said it best..

"Cops crying about having a "hard job", is like a proctologist saying "I can't believe I have to look at as$holes all day!".

sometimes I feel their pain .... but at least they get paid for it...

In the words of Donny Trump: "They knew what they signed up for.."

This just goes to show how being taught hate as a child will damage you forever. Even though whites have explained we get stopped by police too, some will always believe it's the color of the skin. Meanwhile, blacks killing blacks is your main threat. You can't fix the problem in your community if you think it's the cops trying to stop the gangbangers.

I don't know if you're being obtuse deliberately, or if it's just an act.

This isn't about whether or not whether white cops pull over white people. It's about WHY white people are pulled over as opposed to black people. White people are more likely to be let off with a warning for speeding as opposed to a black person getting a ticket.

Guess what? White people go to court in front of white judges too. White people are more likely to get a lecture and a small fine from the white judge, whereas the black person will get 30 days in jail and a big fine.

White cops are more likely to shoot black people then they are white people.

Hopefully, a pattern is starting to emerge from the midst.

You told us earlier that you live in a racially diverse neighbourhood, are you getting pulled over a lot by the police in your neighbourhood?

Nope, not at all.

But I have family in Dallas, San Antonio, Los Angeles, and Riverside California. I think I even have a few cousins down in the Bay Area.

I hear stories, and I watch and read the news, my neighborhood is diverse, but it's not encased in bubble wrap.

so you haven't witnessed it yourself but you have family that has?

interesting.

I hear stories and read about it too, but I also go by my own experience visiting your country which is about 100 times and not once have I been harassed, even though I was stopped 3 times for speeding and not once did I get a ticket , call it luck, call it fortunate, call it whatever you want , I chose to show them respect and not give off an attitude and it paid off.

That isn't to say the next time Im in America I could still get a ticket but I'm not going to disrespect the officer.

I agree hate and bigotry are taught to us as children. It is important that we UNLEARN it, or it can be quite damaging.

I have heard white people tell all their stories about getting stopped by police. I believe them. THe difference is some of those same whites refuse to believe when black people tell their stories of the times they WERE stopped for being black (in situations where there is presumably NO LEGIT reason for them to have been stopped otherwise)

BLacks do kill blacks and whites do kill whites. We usually expect the justice system to handle that.

Each 'community' can surely pinpoint more than one 'problem' happening and are addressing more than one at any given time, even though we only can really speak on one issue or topic in any given conversation.

I have a problem with people when they dont want kids to have better than what they have or had. I believe this is an issue with those who felt trapped or whatever and turned to crime, deciding to intimidate and harass those coming behind them into being stuck instead of supporting the chance they can do better.

but

I ALSO have a problem with people paid and trained to protect and serve having trigger happy approach to catching or detaining suspects, with not enough emphasis on actual assessment and/or deescalation.

it is innocent until PROVEN guilty and all 'innocent' have lives that should not be dispensable EXCEPT in clear self defense or after facing a jury.

I agree hate and bigotry are taught to us as children. It is important that we UNLEARN it, or it can be quite damaging.

I have heard white people tell all their stories about getting stopped by police. I believe them. THe difference is some of those same whites refuse to believe when black people tell their stories of the times they WERE stopped for being black (in situations where there is presumably NO LEGIT reason for them to have been stopped otherwise)

BLacks do kill blacks and whites do kill whites. We usually expect the justice system to handle that.

Each 'community' can surely pinpoint more than one 'problem' happening and are addressing more than one at any given time, even though we only can really speak on one issue or topic in any given conversation.

I have a problem with people when they dont want kids to have better than what they have or had. I believe this is an issue with those who felt trapped or whatever and turned to crime, deciding to intimidate and harass those coming behind them into being stuck instead of supporting the chance they can do better.

but

I ALSO have a problem with people paid and trained to protect and serve having trigger happy approach to catching or detaining suspects, with not enough emphasis on actual assessment and/or deescalation.

it is innocent until PROVEN guilty and all 'innocent' have lives that should not be dispensable EXCEPT in clear self defense or after facing a jury.

this I agree with.



Its not that they dont believe it, the problem is when you have other black folks share their stories you dont believe us, I know black folks and relatives in the states too that doesnt have the problem, mind you there are upper middle class and 1%




Every community has an association , some associations are more powerful than others to help address the problems

This is one of the reasons why I admire the Jewish and Hispanic communities association they really come together and fight for their communities.




so you're justifying it, that is a problem.





The world isn't black and white it has colours in it, your characterization of the white officer shooting a black teen who was an honour student running away is why people are divided.

You are not looking at the whole picture here, while shooting someone in the back running isn't ideal, the thing is they were involved in a shooting earlier.

they were not stealing candy from a store, or slashing tires or breaking into cars.

they were involved in a shooting and while training tells them when and how to fire their weapons, cops today takes no chances when guns are involved in a crime.

I'll admit, it's kinda funny when the cop goes ooops!



Florida state attorney pulled over in traffic stop that goes nowhere fast

A Florida state attorney who was pulled over in a traffic stop said she hopes to use the incident as a teachable moment for the community.

Aramis Ayala is Florida's first and only black elected state attorney. She's been no stranger to controversy since taking office in 2016 as top prosecutor of the 9th Judicial District, which covers Orange and Osceola counties.

After she announced in March that she no longer intends to pursue the death penalty, Gov. Rick Scott removed her office from 21 first-degree murder cases, including the trial of accused police killer Markeith Lloyd. The move prompted an ongoing lawsuit about whether Scott's decision was justified.

Now, Ayala is back in the spotlight after footage surfaced of Orlando Police pulling her over in a June 19 traffic stop. It lasts little more than a minute after two officers find out who she is, prompting some social media users to suggest racial bias was at play. Orlando Police said the stop was lawful; Ayala has conceded that the stop appears to be "consistent" with the law but insists she did nothing wrong.

Ayala was driving a state-issued vehicle when she was pulled over after leaving Florida A&M University College of Law, where she had taught class that evening.

"What agency are you with?" the officer with the body camera asks as he looks at her identification. "I'm the state attorney" she responds, kicking off a terse exchange.

The officer tells Ayala that he and his partner pulled her over after a check of her license plate came up empty. License plates on state-issued vehicles are confidential, and would not come back as registered to a vehicle, the department said.
She asks what the tag was run for and he tells her they run tags all the time.

"That's how we figure out if cars are stolen and that sort of thing," he responds, adding that her car windows were another reason for the stop.

"Also, the windows are really dark, I don't have a tint measure but that's another reason for the stop," he adds.

Ayala smiles as he replies and asks for the officers' business cards. The encounter ends without a citation.

The Orlando Police Department allows the running of tags "for official business only," a practice "done routinely on patrol," the agency said in a statement.

"In regards to the video, which was released by the Orlando Police Department last month, the officers stated the tag did not come back as registered to any vehicle. As you can see in the video, the window tint was dark, and officers would not have been able to tell who, or how many people, were in the vehicle," the agency said.

Ayala confirmed that she was pulled over on June 19 in Parramore. While she said the stop appears to be lawful, she said that she intends to follow it up."To be clear, I violated no laws. The license plate, while confidential was and remains properly registered. The tint was in no way a violation of Florida law," she said.

"Although the traffic stop appears to be consistent with Florida law (my) goal is to have a constructive and mutually respectful relationship between law enforcement and the community," she said.
I look forward to sitting down to have an open dialogue with the Chief of Orlando Police Department regarding how this incident impacts that goal."
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Bet that guy won't ever get her to try any of his cases.

Want to try telling his mother she needs to look at the "big picture"?

two points

I never posted that I didnt believe anyone about THEIR experience. Im pointing out how others question the experiences blacks share with them about THEIR EXPERIENCES.

Second, I did not emphasize race on the issue of the kid shot in the back. I have simply repeated, several times, the wrongness of shooting a KID running in fear in the back.

Do you think perhaps the reaction would be the same, if the kid shot in the back was a white kid that just happened to be riding with some of his black friends? Let's face it, in that given scenario, a white kid would be more likely to run.

I don't think so.

point taken, and I stand corrected.

back to your point, okay the Kid being shot in the back, look, I see where you're coming from, its horrible that a kid is shot like that.

But having said that , if the kid was involved in a prior shooting, what are the cops suppose to do? treat the kid with kit gloves or is it kid gloves, I cant remember the saying.

I honestly believe if the cops was chasing the kid for committing a non gun crime I believe he would be alive today.

Its always about race with you viper.

and you wonder why racism exists?

Good lord.

I believe in gravity too.

That too, is just a fact of life.

And when your residence is only three hours driving time from that little Manson-Nixon line, it's a little hard to ignore.

What the cops are supposed to do, IMHO, is consider this:


IF is the operative word, IFS dont mattter, because they are unknown. Deal in the known and current THREAT. if a kid is running away with their back turned to you, that is not a threat.

you dont know that and the cops dont know that at that time
everything is happening so fast.

Its great to be a monday morning armchair quarterback and assess the situation after its done.

its like those weekend sport warriors in front of the TV set yelling at the quarterback why did you throw that pass in double coverage, meanwhile they dont see that the quarterback left tackle missed his block and the Linebacker making a beeline towards the QB is about about to plant him the QB like WWE wrestler on the turf.

Split second decisions are not the same as having time to analyze the situation.