Topic: Getting more common
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Sat 06/30/18 08:21 AM




A bit extreme ..don't you think..and a stretch ..to go from wiping out gang members to shooting a two year old ..really..

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Sat 06/30/18 08:22 AM
Edited by BlakeIAM on Sat 06/30/18 08:22 AM

Your reasoning..

They're no longer human beings..

Exterminators don't just kill a few ants. They destroy the entire colony.. Even the infants.


The word "infant" doesn't apply to any insects.

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Sat 06/30/18 08:25 AM
Edited by Viper1j on Sat 06/30/18 08:26 AM





A bit extreme ..don't you think..and a stretch ..to go from wiping out gang members to shooting a two year old ..really..


Thought all the cancer had to be cut out.. Leave nothing but the clean flesh. You don't cure a sick family tree, you cut it down.

It's the Italian way.. Otherwise the kids might grow up and take revenge.

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Sat 06/30/18 08:29 AM

Right.

Going by that, we wipe out their progeny too..

You ready to look a 2 year old in the eye and blow it's brains out?


do you see many 2 year old shooting people Viper?


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Sat 06/30/18 08:30 AM
Liberals try to use their kids as a way of getting away with things.

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Sat 06/30/18 08:34 AM
Edited by Viper1j on Sat 06/30/18 08:35 AM
They will eventually.

After all, if all Mexican babies are going to grow up to be rapists, that would mean that all Hells Angels babies will grow up to be killers.

Might as well kill them first.

And as I stated above, it is the Italian way.

Besides, nobody here wants to support some dead bikers kid with their tax dollars.

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Sat 06/30/18 08:43 AM
It's on a par with the "very fine people... On both sides" statement.

But you didn't address paying for the dead bikers babies to grow up.

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Sat 06/30/18 08:46 AM
Only because you don't have to pay.

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Sat 06/30/18 08:54 AM

Only because you don't have to pay.


and neither are you , so your point is?????

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Sat 06/30/18 09:34 AM
I pay US taxes, on all three levels, federal, state, and real estate.

You don't. It's my tax dollars supporting that dead bikers kid, not yours.

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Sat 06/30/18 09:38 AM

I pay US taxes, on all three levels, federal, state, and real estate.

You don't. It's my tax dollars supporting that dead bikers kid, not yours.


congratulations , that and 8 dollars will get you a frappacino at Starbucks.

And how is Your tax dollars supporting that dead bikers kid?


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Sat 06/30/18 10:00 AM
Edited by Viper1j on Sat 06/30/18 10:03 AM


I pay US taxes, on all three levels, federal, state, and real estate.

You don't. It's my tax dollars supporting that dead bikers kid, not yours.


congratulations , that and 8 dollars will get you a frappacino at Starbucks.

And how is Your tax dollars supporting that dead bikers kid?


If mom is declared "fit" then she'll get SSI survivors benefits for the dead biker, and food stamps and housing.

If mom is declared "unfit" then the kid gets snatched, and goes into the foster care system.

Either way, the kid is supported with tax dollars.

PS: I don't pay for anything at Starbucks.

Corporate is one of my clients, the only time I'm in a Starbucks, is when I'm working, and then everything is free for me.:smile:

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Sat 06/30/18 10:02 AM
if and or buts.

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Sat 06/30/18 10:05 AM
It's no skin off anybody's nose... I mean, it's not like the kid would be "Brown" or something.

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Sat 06/30/18 10:29 AM
Democrats are protesting while republicans are enjoying the weekend. Then in November we are going to vote democrats out of office. :joy:

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Sat 06/30/18 10:34 AM
Protests here today at capital in this hot :fire: weather.

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Sat 06/30/18 10:36 AM

Protests here today at capital in this hot :fire: weather.


Yep. I'm wondering how long they can stand the heat.

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Sat 06/30/18 10:37 AM
why are some democrats protesting on the weekend?



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Sat 06/30/18 10:42 AM

ir·rev·er·ent
əˈrev(ə)rənt/
adjective
adjective: irreverent

showing a lack of respect for people or things that are generally taken seriously.
"she is irreverent about the whole business of politics"
synonyms: disrespectful, disdainful, scornful, contemptuous, derisive, disparaging;

Words mean things.. rofl

MS-13 makes the Hells Angels and the Mongols look like Alter boys

for what its worth. We have the HA here, they come thru my town all the time. And never bother a soul.. never. They have a clubhouse in Manhattan which is actually on the tourist stops... so much for ruthless killers. They keep to themselves. And I can not remember the last time I read or saw on T.V. where they were arrested for... anything. They are a biker gang but not even close in league to MS-13


http://www.bakersfield.com/news/mongols-affiliates-planned-bakersfield-attack-on-hells-angels-days-in/article_9937b484-6b55-11e8-b2ca-732e121b6356.html

Mongols affiliates planned Bakersfield attack on Hells Angels days in advance of fundraiser, reports say

Two days before a motorcycle wash fundraiser in Bakersfield organized by the local chapter of the Hells Angels, Ricardo Viera received a text message from an affiliate of the Mongols, another decades-old motorcycle club — and one of the Angels' biggest rivals.

"Light-em-up," read the message sent from the phone of Eliseo Ray Miranda, recently released court documents say. He also texted Viera, a Mongols member, a photograph of an advertisement for the event.

On May 5, Miranda and two other Mongols affiliates — Christopher Clay Wilson and Arturo Desiderio — arrived at the motorcycle wash in the 3200 block of Buck Owens Boulevard in one vehicle, according to court documents. Viera, armed with a pump-action pistol grip shotgun, drove separately to the event and parked near them.

Minutes later, a confrontation ensued that left Viera dead and two others wounded. On June 1, Miranda, 45, Wilson, 40 and Desiderio, 37, were charged with crimes including multiple counts of attempted murder and gang participation.

Bail for each has been set at $1 million.

According to the documents, the events of May 5 unfolded as follows:

Miranda and Desiderio got out of a vehicle upon arriving at the motorcycle wash and brandished metal objects as they approached and challenged the Hells Angels gathered for the event.

They drew several Hells Angels into a gas station parking lot where Viera was waiting. Viera got out of his vehicle and fired into the crowd. A person at the wash then armed himself with a handgun and fired several rounds at Viera, killing the 56-year-old.

Miranda and Desiderio got back into the vehicle they arrived in and sped off with Wilson behind the wheel.

Police arrived to find Viera's body in the parking lot, and two others suffering from what officers described as minor injuries due to gunshot wounds. They suggested the incident could have been worse.

"There were approximately seven potential victims who were in the immediate (shot spread) of Viera's shotgun blast," police say in the documents.

Viera, struck multiple times, was lying on top of the shotgun. Several spent 9mm casings were near his body, as well as a shotgun shell and a cell phone that fell out of his right rear pocket.

Investigators learned about the text messages from Miranda after executing a search warrant on Viera's phone.

Shortly after the shooting, police received a call from a man who admitted to firing at Viera in self-defense. He told police the gun he used was in the saddlebag of his motorcycle parked in front of his residence.

Officers arrived at the residence, located the motorcycle and seized the gun. The documents say the man, who police have not identified, had numerous items consistent with being affiliated with the Hells Angels, but police have told The Californian the man is not an associate of the biker club.

The man was detained, but was not arrested or charged as witness statements and video evidence backed up his statement to police.

About 2 1/2 years ago, Viera had a highly publicized run-in with Hells Angels affiliates on Rosedale Highway.

In January 2016, two Hells Angels affiliates in a pickup followed Viera as he rode a motorcycle on Rosedale. When Viera stopped at a red light, one of the men pulled a knife and grabbed him.

Viera produced a knife of his own and twice stabbed the other man. Outnumbered, he then tried to get away by jumping onto the back of a passing pickup.

One of the Hells Angels affiliates entered a no contest plea to a misdemeanor assault charge. Charges were dropped against the other man.

Viera was not charged in the incident

https://www.nytimes.com/2002/04/28/us/a-brawl-between-motorcycle-gangs-turns-fatal-at-a-nevada-casino.html

A Brawl Between Motorcycle Gangs Turns Fatal at a Nevada Casino



Three men, all motorcycle gang members, were killed and about a dozen others were injured in a shooting and knifing brawl that broke out in Harrah's casino early this morning among rival bikers attending a huge annual motorcycle rally, the authorities said.

Another man, apparently also a biker, was found fatally shot this morning on Interstate 40 just across the border in California, said Sgt. Chris Darcy of the Las Vegas Police Department, which helps patrol Laughlin, a Colorado River gambling resort about 90 miles south of Las Vegas. It was not immediately clear whether his death was related to the casino shootings, the police said.

The police said the fight erupted when a member of the Mongol motorcycle gang walked into a group of Hells Angels near the casino entrance. Sixty to 70 people, armed with guns and knives, were involved, the authorities said.

All three of the dead were bikers, the police said, adding that numerous people were arrested and a handgun was recovered.

Several people at the rally said tensions had been brewing between members of the Hells Angels and the Mongols, and the fight had resulted from a territorial dispute. It was most likely the worst case of casino violence in the history of the state, Sergeant Darcy said.
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The shooting came on the first night of River Run, the annual motorcycle rally in Laughlin. The rally has been held for 20 years and is considered by its promoters to be the West's largest ride-in motorcycle show, drawing about 50,000 participants a year. It is directed primarily at Harley-Davidson fans, which means it attracts bikers from clubs around the country, who come to gape at new models and to ride up and down the strip.

Until late yesterday afternoon, about a hundred gang members were still sequestered inside the Harrah's casino, being questioned by the police.

''It's very difficult to track everything down,'' Sergeant Darcy said. ''It's not as if this was one person shooting one other person. There were many, many people involved.''

Outside, the main strip was humming with thousands of bikers undeterred by this morning's violence and gunning their Harley-Davidson hogs as they rode slowly past the site of the melee. Only a few stopped to crane their necks past the yellow police tape.

Across the street, bikers sat under the temporary awnings rigged off their campers and RV's, as billboard-size banners for Jim Beam and Coors fluttered behind them and the music of Lynyrd Skynyrd and Rush providing a tinny sound track that could only occasionally be heard over the desert wind.

The sign at the main entrance to town was still flashing a warning not to bring bottles or cans onto Laughlin Civic Drive. Also at the entrance was a notice that anyone younger than 16 was under curfew from 6 p.m. to 6 a.m. The neon sign at Harrah's was still flashing the happy phrase: ''Welcome Bikers / 25 cent craps.''

The highways into and out of the town were closed after the brawl, which began around 2:15 this morning.

Denise Massey, 48, was gambling with her fiancé on the first floor of Harrah's when she noticed 20 to 30 bikers suddenly converge.

''Next thing you know you just hear 'Bam, bam, bam,' '' Ms. Massey told The Associated Press. ''All of a sudden they're running and just shooting at each other.''

According to the federal Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco and Firearms, the Mongols are one of the most violent and criminally active motorcycle gangs in Southern California. Two years ago, the authorities arrested 29 Mongols on racketeering and other charges in Oklahoma, Georgia and California after an undercover operation in which an A.T.F. special agent infiltrated the club. During the investigation, the authorities recovered more than 70 firearms, including two machine guns.

Seven people injured in this morning's violence were sent to the Western Arizona Regional Medical Center across the river in Bullhead City, Ariz. University Medical Center in Las Vegas was treating five patients.

"Altar boys" indeed.. :laughing:

pull up the news articles on MS.-13, Sure as hell you won't have to go back years to find them. They are in the news.. daily... for terrible violent crimes against citizens. All committed in a country they have no business being in , in the first place.

Biker gangs fight... each other. Been like that since the end of WW1, when they started.

But they are funny to read.. so please.. carry on



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Sat 06/30/18 10:55 AM

why are some democrats protesting on the weekend?





Over Trump's immigration policies !