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Topic: Dangerous attitudes
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Sun 06/24/18 08:44 PM
Edited by diserli_gears on Sun 06/24/18 08:45 PM


Sturmbannfuhrer, by your reasoning, why haven't you started pre-heating the ovens?

Would you then drive through the neighborhoods that you deem unworthy, and then gather those you deem "thugs", for transportation to those ovens for summary cooking?

"thugs are not people they are animals, they dont give a rats azz about human life."

At the end of the day, you're no better than them.


Comrade Viper,

by my reasoning,I dont think you know what reasoning is Comrade, Ive read nothing but ad hominem, strawman and countless other fallacies.

Im a realist, I dont live in a fantasy utopian communist society you live in that believe we are all good people and we work according our needs and desires....

how touching , Im about to shed a tear or two , okay comrade while you may think thugs dont exist in your fantasy democratic peoples republic of la la land.

we live in the real world with real problems, Thugs are a problem that plagues decent society.

Ive never advocated thugs be sent to death camps like the Jews in Nazi Germany, that is just more crap you are making up.

If a thug gets shot by police in the course of committing a crime, while running away or not, I say So what and good riddance

One less loser wasting tax payers money

I rather the victim of those thugs get the help they need like that poor 67 year old woman who will lose the sight of her I think they said right eye.

what did she do to deserve being beaten by a thug?

Do you weep or feel for her Comrade Viper?

and yeah Im better than the those evil scumbag thug P.O.S.
I dont go around beating up harmless older citizens or rob people or shoot people.

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Sun 06/24/18 11:31 PM



I took the definition right from Webster's. Don't know where you got yours from or did you make up those words?, please supply the source.

Nobody is imagining anything, with the exception of .. you.

I see no " us vs them" mentality. What I see is people who do not agree with your views, that is what you perceive to be a group out to get you?

they are not out to get you, its just that you can't spin them into thinking your way and that frustrates you.

As for my " comrades" well, exactly who would that be?. Please enlighten me. I have had no contact with anyone on these political threads.. anyone. They have not tried to contact me and I have not tried to contact them...ever. we are all strangers that would disagree with each other as fast as anyone else if we did not agree.

so who exactly are these so call " comrades".. of mine? Its only right to back up ones words.. right?

Maybe at 56K posts.. its time to give the noodle a break?.. let it recoup a bit.



so, you missed all the comments about 'you people' or 'your community' from persons with no idea where I live, "blacks' this and 'blacks' that ?

etc... etc...

not surprising.


but its odd being in your cross hairs so often, I wouldnt continue to count my posts, being that I type 75 wpm and work from my computer, there will no doubt be numerous more.




You are in a lot of peoples crosshairs because of your words and the spin you try to force on people. You just don't like it when you can't spin people.. when people call you on things.. sorry.

I asked you a point blank question.. who are my " comrades" are you saying white people?.. is that what your saying?. That white people are my " comrades"?.

And I don't care how many words a person types per minute when the message makes no sense. Maybe you will get flowers at 60K?.. maybe?. fresh air and sunshine would be better, but flowers are nice.

but enough.. no reason to answer the comrade question.. as you really can't.. Plus I made my point and its time to do that other thing.. you know.. life.. no typing needed ;)

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Sun 06/24/18 11:33 PM

Maybe he missed the comments about my privilege also. When in reality I budget to have the things I do. I started working at 15. So the comments about me understanding the difference between poor and trash are real. You can tell a lot about a person by the things they say.



I agree ...

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Sun 06/24/18 11:36 PM

I left home at 17 years old and I've been supporting myself ever since. If I can go to high school work at night pay my rent and utilities, then a welfare queen living off grandma for free and bitching about what the govt doesn't do for her, turns my stomach.

Honestly, I'm a couple of years younger than you and have a grandson as old as the kid you are complaining that it's hard to raise.


yes, people 'bitching' about what others dont do for them OR about what others have that they dont have turn my stomach too ... they just refuse to see how alike they really are


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Mon 06/25/18 12:53 AM
In my opinion we should have death penalty cases a lot more. Not where they appeal for 20 years. We have technology that can prove cases a lot better and it's time to take out the trash. Instead of filling up prisons for us to support, fill up the morgue. Because he is right, some people are animals.

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Mon 06/25/18 12:58 AM
Edited by Easttowest72 on Mon 06/25/18 12:59 AM


I left home at 17 years old and I've been supporting myself ever since. If I can go to high school work at night pay my rent and utilities, then a welfare queen living off grandma for free and bitching about what the govt doesn't do for her, turns my stomach.

Honestly, I'm a couple of years younger than you and have a grandson as old as the kid you are complaining that it's hard to raise.


yes, people 'bitching' about what others dont do for them OR about what others have that they dont have turn my stomach too ... they just refuse to see how alike they really are




No we are not alike. All I want is a break from paying taxes. I'm a single mom too. The system should be glad it's not having to support me like it is a lot of the others. You don't understand that there is a penalty for being decent. We get the hell taxed out of us. Because honestly, you can't squeeze blood out of turnips.

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Mon 06/25/18 03:40 AM



Sturmbannfuhrer, by your reasoning, why haven't you started pre-heating the ovens?

Would you then drive through the neighborhoods that you deem unworthy, and then gather those you deem "thugs", for transportation to those ovens for summary cooking?

"thugs are not people they are animals, they dont give a rats azz about human life."

At the end of the day, you're no better than them.


Comrade Viper,

by my reasoning,I dont think you know what reasoning is Comrade, Ive read nothing but ad hominem, strawman and countless other fallacies.

Im a realist, I dont live in a fantasy utopian communist society you live in that believe we are all good people and we work according our needs and desires....

how touching , Im about to shed a tear or two , okay comrade while you may think thugs dont exist in your fantasy democratic peoples republic of la la land.

we live in the real world with real problems, Thugs are a problem that plagues decent society.

Ive never advocated thugs be sent to death camps like the Jews in Nazi Germany, that is just more crap you are making up.

If a thug gets shot by police in the course of committing a crime, while running away or not, I say So what and good riddance

One less loser wasting tax payers money

I rather the victim of those thugs get the help they need like that poor 67 year old woman who will lose the sight of her I think they said right eye.

what did she do to deserve being beaten by a thug?

Do you weep or feel for her Comrade Viper?

and yeah Im better than the those evil scumbag thug P.O.S.
I dont go around beating up harmless older citizens or rob people or shoot people.



Im a realist, I dont live in a fantasy utopian communist society you live in that believe we are all good people and we work according our needs and desires....

Sturmbannfuhrer, I never said all people were good, nor did I say "thugs" don't exist. I said they were still people.

Ive never advocated thugs be sent to death camps like the Jews in Nazi Germany, that is just more crap you are making up.

In the camps or on the street, dead is still dead.

I rather the victim of those thugs get the help they need like that poor 67 year old woman who will lose the sight of her I think they said right eye.

what did she do to deserve being beaten by a thug?


Nothing.. Sh@t happens.

Do you weep or feel for her Comrade Viper?

It is possible to have tears enough for both.

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Mon 06/25/18 06:48 AM
Edited by msharmony on Mon 06/25/18 06:48 AM



I left home at 17 years old and I've been supporting myself ever since. If I can go to high school work at night pay my rent and utilities, then a welfare queen living off grandma for free and bitching about what the govt doesn't do for her, turns my stomach.

Honestly, I'm a couple of years younger than you and have a grandson as old as the kid you are complaining that it's hard to raise.


yes, people 'bitching' about what others dont do for them OR about what others have that they dont have turn my stomach too ... they just refuse to see how alike they really are




No we are not alike. All I want is a break from paying taxes. I'm a single mom too. The system should be glad it's not having to support me like it is a lot of the others. You don't understand that there is a penalty for being decent. We get the hell taxed out of us. Because honestly, you can't squeeze blood out of turnips.



boo hoo.


griping more about what perks and breaks the uber wealthy get would maybe make that statement believable. "All" others want are to be able to feed and shelter their kids. but yeah, whether you pay taxes is a real injustice.




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Mon 06/25/18 06:54 AM
He said it best..

George Carlin speaks on class, taxes, etc

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4CRIkSpo6f4

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Mon 06/25/18 06:55 AM
Comrade Viperoff.

Sturmbannfuhrer, I never said all people were good, nor did I say "thugs" don't exist. I said they were still people.

they are people but so what? they are evil scumbag predators praying on decent socieity, they dont deserve my sympathy, they deserve my comtempt and a bullet if they try and harm or rob me.


In the camps or on the street, dead is still dead.


And your point is what ?


Nothing.. Sh@t happens.

that is someone mother/grandmother you are talking about , I wonder how you would feel is someone did that to your daughter, would you feel the same, oh shite happens?



It is possible to have tears enough for both.


Tears for the thug? WTF

are you serious?

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Mon 06/25/18 07:01 AM




I left home at 17 years old and I've been supporting myself ever since. If I can go to high school work at night pay my rent and utilities, then a welfare queen living off grandma for free and bitching about what the govt doesn't do for her, turns my stomach.

Honestly, I'm a couple of years younger than you and have a grandson as old as the kid you are complaining that it's hard to raise.


yes, people 'bitching' about what others dont do for them OR about what others have that they dont have turn my stomach too ... they just refuse to see how alike they really are




No we are not alike. All I want is a break from paying taxes. I'm a single mom too. The system should be glad it's not having to support me like it is a lot of the others. You don't understand that there is a penalty for being decent. We get the hell taxed out of us. Because honestly, you can't squeeze blood out of turnips.



boo hoo.


griping more about what perks and breaks the uber wealthy get would maybe make that statement believable. "All" others want are to be able to feed and shelter their kids. but yeah, whether you pay taxes is a real injustice.






So I'm supposed to be mad at people for working and earning money. I should be mad at then and not the ones who won't work but keep popping out kids. That is a very entitled attitude.
Trump is a billuonaire. He is past retirement age and still working. He donates his salary back to the people. But you think we should punish him for being ambitious and reward the lazy and worthless.

Like I said, people who try to be productive are punished. I know because I an one of them. My kids and grandkids will be growing up and living in this country. I'm going to support a civilized society and ambition.

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Mon 06/25/18 07:05 AM





I left home at 17 years old and I've been supporting myself ever since. If I can go to high school work at night pay my rent and utilities, then a welfare queen living off grandma for free and bitching about what the govt doesn't do for her, turns my stomach.

Honestly, I'm a couple of years younger than you and have a grandson as old as the kid you are complaining that it's hard to raise.


yes, people 'bitching' about what others dont do for them OR about what others have that they dont have turn my stomach too ... they just refuse to see how alike they really are




No we are not alike. All I want is a break from paying taxes. I'm a single mom too. The system should be glad it's not having to support me like it is a lot of the others. You don't understand that there is a penalty for being decent. We get the hell taxed out of us. Because honestly, you can't squeeze blood out of turnips.



boo hoo.


griping more about what perks and breaks the uber wealthy get would maybe make that statement believable. "All" others want are to be able to feed and shelter their kids. but yeah, whether you pay taxes is a real injustice.






So I'm supposed to be mad at people for working and earning money. I should be mad at then and not the ones who won't work but keep popping out kids. That is a very entitled attitude.
Trump is a billuonaire. He is past retirement age and still working. He donates his salary back to the people. But you think we should punish him for being ambitious and reward the lazy and worthless.

Like I said, people who try to be productive are punished. I know because I an one of them. My kids and grandkids will be growing up and living in this country. I'm going to support a civilized society and ambition.



no. Not for 'earning money' but being given more of a break on paying taxes , breaks you don't get for the money you're 'earning'.

That is how it works, right? someone else getting what you feel you should have? Although the motivation for the poor to have food and shelter is different than the motivation for the wealthy to hang on to get wealthier.


you sound very punished. not sure you know what 'civilized' means though.




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Mon 06/25/18 07:08 AM
And all others want is to feed and shelter their kids is bs. The atl streets are full of kids in gangs who parents don't even care that they quit school. They only care about the welfare check. At Honda a woman in her 50's was getting foodstamps for a son who had moved out of state and living with another family. Her excuse was he was her son and she deserved it. I'm sick of hearing about what everyone deserves. Because what they deserve is what they get out and earn.

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Mon 06/25/18 07:24 AM






I left home at 17 years old and I've been supporting myself ever since. If I can go to high school work at night pay my rent and utilities, then a welfare queen living off grandma for free and bitching about what the govt doesn't do for her, turns my stomach.

Honestly, I'm a couple of years younger than you and have a grandson as old as the kid you are complaining that it's hard to raise.


yes, people 'bitching' about what others dont do for them OR about what others have that they dont have turn my stomach too ... they just refuse to see how alike they really are




No we are not alike. All I want is a break from paying taxes. I'm a single mom too. The system should be glad it's not having to support me like it is a lot of the others. You don't understand that there is a penalty for being decent. We get the hell taxed out of us. Because honestly, you can't squeeze blood out of turnips.



boo hoo.


griping more about what perks and breaks the uber wealthy get would maybe make that statement believable. "All" others want are to be able to feed and shelter their kids. but yeah, whether you pay taxes is a real injustice.






So I'm supposed to be mad at people for working and earning money. I should be mad at then and not the ones who won't work but keep popping out kids. That is a very entitled attitude.
Trump is a billuonaire. He is past retirement age and still working. He donates his salary back to the people. But you think we should punish him for being ambitious and reward the lazy and worthless.

Like I said, people who try to be productive are punished. I know because I an one of them. My kids and grandkids will be growing up and living in this country. I'm going to support a civilized society and ambition.



no. Not for 'earning money' but being given more of a break on paying taxes , breaks you don't get for the money you're 'earning'.

That is how it works, right? someone else getting what you feel you should have? Although the motivation for the poor to have food and shelter is different than the motivation for the wealthy to hang on to get wealthier.


you sound very punished. not sure you know what 'civilized' means though.






It's not what I feel I should have, it's what I've earned. Welfare in 1930's was a bag of rice. Now people are arguing it's ok to buy steak and lobster on foodstamps. Welfare recipients are being rewarded for being sorry and lazy. I'm a single mother too, The difference is i was taught to work and have something, instead of bars, hotels, getting my nails done.

Yes that foodstamps recipient at Honda always had her nails done. She said she always treated herself even though she has kids. She complained her son wouldn't answer the phone. It wasn't her raising him. But our tax $$ went there to take care of him.

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Mon 06/25/18 07:27 AM

And all others want is to feed and shelter their kids is bs. The atl streets are full of kids in gangs who parents don't even care that they quit school. They only care about the welfare check. At Honda a woman in her 50's was getting foodstamps for a son who had moved out of state and living with another family. Her excuse was he was her son and she deserved it. I'm sick of hearing about what everyone deserves. Because what they deserve is what they get out and earn.



The woman at Honda shared this with you why? And IF this story is even true, all you had to do was report her for fraud. What she was doing isnt supported by the laws, it was ILLEGAL and not a normal part of the assistance programs.

what people 'deserve' is a very complex conversation for another day.


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Mon 06/25/18 07:31 AM
Edited by msharmony on Mon 06/25/18 07:32 AM







I left home at 17 years old and I've been supporting myself ever since. If I can go to high school work at night pay my rent and utilities, then a welfare queen living off grandma for free and bitching about what the govt doesn't do for her, turns my stomach.

Honestly, I'm a couple of years younger than you and have a grandson as old as the kid you are complaining that it's hard to raise.


yes, people 'bitching' about what others dont do for them OR about what others have that they dont have turn my stomach too ... they just refuse to see how alike they really are




No we are not alike. All I want is a break from paying taxes. I'm a single mom too. The system should be glad it's not having to support me like it is a lot of the others. You don't understand that there is a penalty for being decent. We get the hell taxed out of us. Because honestly, you can't squeeze blood out of turnips.



boo hoo.


griping more about what perks and breaks the uber wealthy get would maybe make that statement believable. "All" others want are to be able to feed and shelter their kids. but yeah, whether you pay taxes is a real injustice.






So I'm supposed to be mad at people for working and earning money. I should be mad at then and not the ones who won't work but keep popping out kids. That is a very entitled attitude.
Trump is a billuonaire. He is past retirement age and still working. He donates his salary back to the people. But you think we should punish him for being ambitious and reward the lazy and worthless.

Like I said, people who try to be productive are punished. I know because I an one of them. My kids and grandkids will be growing up and living in this country. I'm going to support a civilized society and ambition.



no. Not for 'earning money' but being given more of a break on paying taxes , breaks you don't get for the money you're 'earning'.

That is how it works, right? someone else getting what you feel you should have? Although the motivation for the poor to have food and shelter is different than the motivation for the wealthy to hang on to get wealthier.


you sound very punished. not sure you know what 'civilized' means though.






It's not what I feel I should have, it's what I've earned. Welfare in 1930's was a bag of rice. Now people are arguing it's ok to buy steak and lobster on foodstamps. Welfare recipients are being rewarded for being sorry and lazy. I'm a single mother too, The difference is i was taught to work and have something, instead of bars, hotels, getting my nails done.

Yes that foodstamps recipient at Honda always had her nails done. She said she always treated herself even though she has kids. She complained her son wouldn't answer the phone. It wasn't her raising him. But our tax $$ went there to take care of him.



being 'sorry' is also a more complex discussion for another thread


think of it this way,,, maybe that skimpy check she got was money from taxpayers who DO want to help others , and not any of Your money at all? ts not like everyone has their money personally id'd before being spent by the government ...





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Mon 06/25/18 07:38 AM
If you can afford the vip section in the club, you shouldn't be receiving welfare. Not to mention the neglected children. Truth is they don't care at all about their kids. If they did, they would work and give their kids a better life. Saying everyone is equal is ridiculous. You have people in prisons and others in the military. One is better. It's time to shut downs these baby factories and put those women to work.

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Mon 06/25/18 07:42 AM
Edited by msharmony on Mon 06/25/18 07:43 AM

If you can afford the vip section in the club, you shouldn't be receiving welfare. Not to mention the neglected children. Truth is they don't care at all about their kids. If they did, they would work and give their kids a better life. Saying everyone is equal is ridiculous. You have people in prisons and others in the military. One is better. It's time to shut downs these baby factories and put those women to work.


lol ... in the club. Do people PAY for VIP or do they get invited? Especially women, do they have to pay in clubs, really?

many try to work but cant find suitable jobs in their area. many want to work but dont want to sacrifice supervision of their children in order to do it. Until there is a way to determine the heart of others, I dont think the judgment calls are for anyone else to make. I think all we can KNOW is that kids need shelter and food, and in lieu of another adult who can provide it, we are a pitiful nation with all of our wealth to just watch them go without.




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Mon 06/25/18 07:51 AM
Yes they pay. The guys told them how much to bring and they reserved the hotel too. That money should have gone to take care of their kids. Their financial situation never gets any better. They 50 year old bragged she had been out of work 21 days without being fired. The first week we were there, she told our supervisor she wasn't working the weekend. She told all of us she would make more money than us. She was prostituting to an impotent retired military man. I know she was telling the truth because he let her drive his new charger to work. She was fired before we found out if the guy at the electronics store was going to trade payments for sex. These people aren't embarrassed.

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Mon 06/25/18 07:54 AM
The one prostituting was also going to school to become a counselor. More of our hard earned tax $$ down the drain. Can you imagine her counseling someone else. They create these programs to get them off welfare. Everyone shouldn't be sent to school.

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