That's a very good post, imo, Blake.

Sometime we should start a thread about "the Spirit of Truth (SoT)," that Jesus said would "guide" us into all truth. Guide us how? Guide us when? Why do we all believe different things? Is the Spirit of Truth a failure? Etc.

Genesis 6:3 CJB

3 ADONAI said, "My Spirit will not live in human beings forever, for they too are flesh; therefore their life span is to be 120 years."




the HEBREW BIBLE [original scripture] has 20 verses with human in it.

the bastardized kjv does not.

Christians only believe in one God.

notice, this is Old Testament God calling His Spirit [capital S] just His Spirit [not a 3rd person]!!

Nowhere in the Scriptures is Jesus called God. God told us Who Jesus is...

CLV Matt 3:17 And lo! a voice out of the heavens, saying, "This is My Son, the Beloved, in Whom I delight."

Jesus is the Son of God... not God. Jesus is exactly Who He said He was.

It doesn't matter.

The answer to this question is all you need to know:

...Master, what shall I do to inherit eternal life? (Luke 10:25)

CLV Gen 6:3 Then Yahweh |said: My spirit shall not abide in the human for the eon, in that he too is flesh. So his days will continue a hundred twenty years.

Ever known anyone who lived to be 120?

no, I have not ever met, knew of personally, nor from keeping track of the oldest human alive presently to be of that age.

I do believe 117-118 years of age is rather remarkable. but I have noticed the oldest man seems to perish well before the oldest woman [114/man - 118/woman]. I mention that because the scripture seems gender specific in the term [his days shall be numbered/will continue 120 years].

I will also make another point that the original Hebrew calendar was only 10 months long. so if I went by that calendar I would be 65 and could easily make 120, or close to it.

http://humanknowledge.net/Thoughts.html#Theology

Humans have no credible evidence or convincing proof of any deities, including a God, Creator, First Cause, Perfect or Necessary Being.

Humans have proposed philosophical proofs of God as an alternative or supplement to historical revelation of God's existence.

Ontological Proof.
God is the most perfect idea. If God did not exist, then the idea of god would be imperfect in its existence, and would not be the most perfect idea.

Cosmological Proof.
All effects must have a cause, and an infinite regress of causes is impossible. Therefore, God is the First Cause.

Teleological Proof.
The universe (or its set of physical parameters) is evidently designed, and therefore must have a Designer.

Anthropological Proof.
Humans have a universal sense of morality and spirituality, and the cause of this effect is God.

Mystical Proof.
God can be experienced directly.

Pascal's Wager.
Blaise Pascal argued that it is a safer bet to incorrectly believe in God than to incorrectly disbelieve in God.

None of the proofs of God is generally accepted as convincing, due to various counter-arguments.

It is OBVIOUS without a doubt of the existence of God the creator.

Seriously.
Why people try to come up with other nonsense to the truths of God is baffling.

I fail to understand why proof and evidence continues to be demanded.

No proof or evidence will be forthcoming. NOT NOW. NOT EVER.

Either believe or don't believe.

Why bother yourself and other people with questions about proof and evidence?

If you can't believe, then don't.

Go fishing or something.

and yet, some of the very brightest minds like that of Newton [Gravity], Galileo [Mathematics - one of first observers using the telescope], Einstein [E=MC2 - Quantum Theory - Relativity], Spinoza [Higher Thought - Extension], according to PEW RESEARCH [51% or over HALF of today's current scientists in all fields]...ALL HAVE ONE THING IN COMMON.

they ALL believe[d] in God and explained God by natural occurrence, star patterns, Laws of the Universe, through scientific discovery and evidence, DNA, Mathematics, Natural Selection, Inherited Genetics, and in general everything.

just because an atheists has a hypothesis and presents it actually means nothing. and the reason why is specifically what the atheist is purposefully leaving out. which simply is, proofs of higher intelligence of those who are now known as pillars of science, whom actually believed in God without a religious platform. and went as far as to provide a definition that described God with factual proofs that could never be denied. that is, unless you just refuse to see the evidence.

so your article provided, is a prime example of someone ignoring proofs already in place, by thinking no one would research to prove them wrong!!

it's that very sort of ignorance that has science retrying to define the BANG, that has them skewing numbers in dating methods, that has yet to yield an actual specimen of single cell naturally splitting and becoming a completely different species, that has ignored RED LINES within our own galaxy in order to claim the expansion rate of the universe proves it is 15 billion years old, that is now toying with the idea of simulation, and has expert biologists wanting to re-examine Darwin's processes because his method actually leaves us with more question than providing us with answers.

Can you show evidence of this?

I may have had this confused:

here is a copy/paste:

Sometime after 701 BC, months on the Hebrew calendar became either 29 or 30 days, corresponding to the 29 1/2-day lunar cycle. The problem is that lunar years are approximately 12.4 lunar months long, so a 12-month lunar calendar loses about 11 days every year.
The Jewish Calendar – Grace thru faith
gracethrufaith.com


notice it states AFTER 701 BC … and also, the days to make a full year are less than 365. so even with a 12 month calendar year, the Hebrews year ends almost 2 weeks before our current year ends. there are a few things that can be listed here to show how someone's age could be much older due to shorter days in a year, plus who knows BEFORE 701 BC how it was kept which would play into someone being 969 years old before dying [oldest man recorded in Bible].

the 10 months I believe just was a theory of sorts I am recalling from what once was taught. but clearly things changed from shorter days in a year to how our own calendar began. but either way, one's age could be older by all of it.

Someone once told me that the discrepancy in years could be related to the culture at the time.
Their consideration was that in those times, seasons were very important.
Years could mean seasons.
This would cause a ratio of at least 4:1, sometimes more because in-season climates have variances.

The Nile floods twice in 2 months.
There are multiple crop yields in 4 months.
Global weather patterns move cold air south, warm air north multiple times during a year.
That kind of thing.

At that time, the scientific knowledge we have now was unthinkable.
A solar eclipse even disrupted their day/night schedule.
(and the day turned to night, then it was day again).
Did the solar eclipse register as two days in one? or... was it a given that it was two days?

If anything, days are getting longer which means years are getting shorter.
http://www.scientificamerican.com/article/earth-rotation-summer-solstice/




This causes me to think that 'age in years' was determined by 'other' means.

http://www.researchgate.net/publication/265578067_Did_People_in_the_Past_Live_Longer
This is an abstract that requires payment to view the whole paper.
Sorry, but I'm not paying...

Here is the abstract in short:



Its my opinion that even with a "genetically-controlled survival switch within living cells" the accounting of lifespans is inaccurate to reality.
The accounting is of 'perceived years', not 'actual' years.

something else in mind, the scriptures are clear that time also was kept according to the rooster crows. yes, we have Peter denying Yeshua 3 times before the rooster crows, but there are several indications that time ran differently than it does now.



another example is Sunday was the first day of the week since it immediately fell after the sabbath. we use Monday as our first business day of each week.


but I agree, that culturally 5,500 years ago time, days length, months length, years length would be much shorter than how we currently calculate today.


the month use to begin when the moon was considered a new moon and ended before the next new moon. this is roughly 27 to 28 days. if we took an average of 27 days vs our 30 day average, the old calendar year is over 36 days before ours. in 11.11 years, you gain literally another year by simple mathematics. and if you throw 4 seasons into the mix, i am 216.25 years old instead of being 48. almost 170 years difference.


and if i live to be 80, that would make me almost 380 years old.

and if we took the 10 month calendar idea along with the 4 seasons rule, i would be right now 300 years of age and would be 525 at age 80.

these kinds of numbers fit the scripture ages we find in Genesis of people living to be 600 years old on average.

which is ironic, because if you add the scripture that God states man has 120 years...………………………….that would make me 918.75 years old. and these numbers fit Genesis to a T.

so in reality, chances are that Adam being 600 years old according to scripture was really only about 91 years old. and the oldest man recorded in scriptures at 969 years old was in reality 126.5 years of age.



i believe we have an accurate idea between understanding idealisms behind 10 month calendars, 85 days less per year vs our own calendar, and every 8.8 years you gain another year, plus the 4 seasons rule. because if you apply all of this together along with God's promise of 120 years, you would be written in scripture as being 900+ years old!!

you're misinformed... There's about 30 to 40 gods.. And everyone thinks their God is the best

The way I see it there are over 7.5 billion Gods because no matter which religion you subscibe to or not each of us have our own interpretation of God which some do not even call God but call it the Higher Power or Nature.

77:2.11 The records of such long-lived individuals are also due to the confusion of months and years as time periods. This may also be observed in the Biblical genealogy of Abraham and in the early records of the Chinese. The confusion of the twenty-eight-day month, or season, with the later introduced year of more than three hundred and fifty days is responsible for the traditions of such long human lives. There are records of a man who lived over nine hundred “years.” This period represents not quite seventy years, and such lives were regarded for ages as very long, “threescore years and ten” as such a life span was later designated.

77:2.12 The reckoning of time by the twenty-eight-day month persisted long after the days of Adam. But when the Egyptians undertook to reform the calendar, about seven thousand years ago, they did it with great accuracy, introducing the year of 365 days. -The Urantia Book