so, its ok and not racist to say anyone other than a black looks like a monkey? Was it racist when they plastered bushes picture with a monkey face all over the internet? If your thinking saying one person looks like a monkey, and is black is racist, then you need to think a little more about what racism means... If I say Tom cruise looks like an ape, am I racist?

Come on Mo, it was a racist comment. Saying Bush or Tom Cruise look like a monkey is not racist no, it’s more of an insult. What she said would obviously cause offence.

no...she said it about one person, not an entire race... Think about what you're saying...

Trump has asked why they didn't make anyone apologize to him for terrible remarks. The point is the station has a double standard. You do understand that right?

racist:
adjective


showing or feeling discrimination or prejudice against people of other races, or believing that a particular race is superior to another


until looking like a monkey is considered a compliment, I believe that it shows a belief in someone's inferior appearance, which is why it can be taken as racist when applied to black folks, who have been compared to animals and dehumanized throughout western history ...

Its not really a double standard in Trump's case, he gets back what he dishes, thats more like Karma.


Unprovoked attacks on others is a different matter, and there is also the matter that this wasnt a matter of one comment but a series of events that included the comment ...and led to cancellation

it is insulting a race if the comment is meant to imply something related to a race to a person of that race

someone can call an individual the n word and be guilty of saying something racist, right?

but at the root of it, all the isms 'racism/sexism/nationalism' are a reflection mostly of culture and experience and what has become culturally 'accepted'. And people are not all bad or all good, but conditioned. So as brave as it is to call out racism when we see it, (people shut down and stop listening when they are in any way associated with racism), it may do better to explain the experience that ties to race or sex or nationality which causes the sense of offense by that race or sex or nationality.

Sometimes people when they have been in the position to do the labeling, really don't get the 'big deal' about the labels they chose.



And also. Roseanne's has been known to project her own insecurity in her comedy, so I still dont believe it was JUST that comment that led to the cancellation.

Is it racist when black people say the n word? Because they say it more than any other race. I worked with 2 blacks girls who were constantly apologizing to me for saying it.

It is a double standard. Unless you are saying the woman who was insulted has never offended anyone in her life, so she deserves to be given special treatment. Or maybe you are saying because she is black she deserves special treatment and it's only ok if its a white person who is being insulted.

I'll tell you what. IF a black person says the word to show someone else's inferiority and not as a term of shared experience, then yes, its racist. But its harder to assess that intent in a Black person than a white person , who does not have a shared experience of being referred to as that word to be believed as using it as a term of shared experience.


People are offensive ALL The time. It is the norm. But that does not eradicate any possibility that sometimes those offenses are Racist/Sexist/nationalist by nature.

It is not necessary that the offender never have offended anyone, its only significant that the offense in question is rooted in racial/sexual/or national association and is UNPROVOKED by the other party.

(that is to say, the other party did not initiate with their own 'racist/sexist/nationalist' offense)

Insults are never okay, but there is a bit of a line between constructive criticism or blatant insults, and there is a difference between personal insults and racist/sexist/nationalist ones.

If you cannot discuss the topic without attacking other members,
take it elsewhere.

Edited for targeting members rather than the topic.

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really? So 90% of all black people are racist for using the n word? Did you not read the definition of racist I posted? Insulting one person isn't racist, regardless of what your thinking here... And when did you start reading minds by knowing what someone else is implying? She said one woman looked like a monkey, not a while race.

you posted the definition of A racist, noun

I posted the definition of racist, adjective

showing or feeling discrimination or prejudice against people of other races, or believing that a particular race is superior to another


against people (or a person) of other races


racist insults can be hurled at ONE person, just like sexist ones can


and I dont read minds, but I do infer from language, as is its intent ....for communication purposes...

so when did blacks become the authority on racism? An insult is an insult, a racist comment is both...

words can only hurt you if you let them... Just because people are looking in every corner for racism doesn't mean they are always right when they think they find it...

more liberal hypocrisy... Nobody could even say they disapproved of Obama without being called a racist or worse, now it's the norm to insult a white President...

Y'all
Race is not the issue. Consider:
Mitochondrial DNA has been traced back to the 'original mother' who emanated from, guess where—Ethiopia. So we all share the same traits.
Furthermore, if one is to believe Darwin's Theory of Evolution, mankind, in general descended from the Simians.
If one believes in the Judeo Christian theology, you would be hard-pressed to prove that Christ was white-skinned.
The real issue is money and power. Disney, which owns ABC, needed to preserve its brand of family oriented, wholesome, apple pie status. It would have cost more to turn a blind eye to racist remarks with possible boycotts from advertisers and viewers going elsewhere on principle.
'Divide and conquer', familiar with that? While the populous yammers about skin color, tribalism (in the political sense, ergo, liberal versus conservative, yada yada), the rich and powerful are meanwhile:
giving you a measly $50 tax break while pocketing millions; gutting the EPA so that irresponsible corporations can pollute at will, ditto the Consumer Protection Agency; ditto Planned Parenthood and Women's Health; tearing children away from parents because, heaven forbid, less fortunate folks are trying to escape murderous regimes.
Wake up to what is really happening! Look for ways to get along, be inclusive instead of divisive. We are all brothers and sisters and at worst, cousins.

I have seen it from all sides and all races. Some take it as racist. Some don't.

Like black lives matter? To me all lives matter

whether people belive what the bible says or not, this is true...even if we believe in panspernia theory, we all have to be related...