It's a preference whether you date with kids or not. The thing is, it's completely disrespectful and downright cruel to refer to kids as "baggage," they're anything but. I won't date a man who doesn't want kids and I'm with Thumper, I'm not sure I could be seriously involved with someone who doesn't have them. Nothing against them, but if you don't have kids of your own, you can't really understand the committment it takes to raise them and the priority they take in your life. Nor can you really understand the absolute joy they fill your life with.

Kids do not equal baggage. Ex's maybe. But I dont have baby daddy drama either. I would rather spend my life alone with my daughter than to be with some one that does not love her and accept her and the fact shes not going anywhere!

I acutally prefer to date guys that have children. they usually are a little more understanding of the situation.

Not all men are d!cks and dislike children.

However if you are my age or younger and have several kids I kinda understand not wanting to get involved. There is a huge difference between 1 and more than that.
1 is understandable and tolerated/accepted but 2 or more is a challenge... I prefer to date guys with only 1 child.. personal preference i guess !

I guess it just boils down to what the individual really wants. The door does swing both ways, men AND women do it, but I would tend to believe that we as men do it a bit more.

I have no children but may perhaps one day. Do I care if they were fathered by someone else? Not really.

I am with the side that believes that a father is the one that loves you, not the sperm donor that made you.

Just my personal view on it.

I agree the more kids you have the less likely a gal is going to look at you. I will love anyone as long as the love comes back. kids will catch your heart alot faster than the gal you are dating.

It's human nature to fear the unknown; it's just that a lot of these guys have never dated single mothers so it's unfamiliar territory for them.

well put..Sometimes we forget this. It is hard because a person does get attached to the children and if it doesnt work out..the children miss the guy too. This is why my son is exclusive. He doesn't meet anyone unless I know it is a lasting thing..It is hard for the kids too

Immaturity........Ive never encountered this yet......if someone had a problem with it then it would be their problem and I would probably look at them like this then do this then wiggle my butt and walk out!!

Dracklag:

I see your disrespect for women shows clearly. #1-Chicks are yellow, fuzzy farm animals. Did you know that? #2-Children are never baggage. Do you see yourself as baggage, you were a child once?

Some of us women don't want drama either.

Dracklag:

My children aren't baggage and never will be. It's very offensive, to me, that any male (or female) would call someone's children that. I'm not sure how old you are, but I'm guessing younger than my son who will be 20 soon.

i think cuz they think we are looking for a father for them...I have 5 and as soon as i say that...men kinda shy away,but my kids have a father and a good one.

I don't have anything against a man with children, but I have never dated anyone who has had children. I'm not sure I would make a good step parent.

~~MOST MEN THINK UR LOOKING FOR A FATHER FOR UR KIDS AND NOT A MATE, WHENEVER U BOTH GET INTO A FIGHT HE ALWAYS SAYS "THAT IS NOT MY KID", "I AM NOT THE FATHER", SO WHEN U MEET A MAN LET HIM KNOW THAT UR KIDS HAVE A FATHER THEY DONT NEED ANOTHER ONE, AND REASSURE HIM FROM TIME TO TIME. ~~

~~I RATHER MEET A MAN WITH KIDS THEN A MAN WITH NONE~~

~~ MY HUSBAND IS NOT MY DAUGHTERS FATHER, BUT HE WANTS TO BE, AND SHE IS A TEENAGER, WITH HER OWN FATHER, BUT MY HUSBAND CONSIDERS HIMSELF HER FATHER STILL, MY HUSBAND IS A GOOD MAN ~~

U GO DEBBIE, GOOD ONE

I HAVE MET GIRLS DAT HAVE KIDZ N ITS NOT A PROBLEM 4 ME, BUT YEAH I UNDERSTAND DAT SUM GUYZ AREN'T READY FOR DAT BUT IT SHOULDN'T MAKE UR DECISION 2 NOT GET INTO A RELATIONSHIP WITH DAT PERSON

hear this alot and it is hard when you loose both
on the other hand if its not serious then why does he or she even have to meet the kids..there for they dont have to "put up" with them so to speak.
my ex (not his dad)still talks to my son and i dont i have no problem with it at all

When my wife and I met. She had two children, two sons, at the time they were 10 & 11. I wasn`t their real father, but I became the father that they never really had. Everyone that knows me, knows that I always refered to the two sons as my sons. Both of my sons always told me when they got older that they learned how to be a father because God put me in their lives. They also told my wife and I that we were the ones who taught them to be parents. My oldest son was killed 5 years ago at the age of 32. Earlier this year in Jan, my wife passed away. We were together for 26 years and married for 24 years. My youngest son is now 36. Never and I mean never were my two sons refered to as 'excessive baggage" by me. God put us all together for His own reason.

If I ever get into another relationship, and the lady has children, I would treat her children as my own as I did in my marriage. Children are not 'excessive baggage". They are a gift from God.

I refuse to date a man who has school aged children of his own but they don't live with him. They must live with him at least half the time. I hate deadbeat dads. I deal with my children's father who is a deadbeat dad and I refuse to get involved with such a man ever again. And those men who don't want to date a woman with children can go f-uck themselves. Those type of men are usually afraid of commitment, afraid of leeches on their wallet, and/or afraid of becoming old.