too often in politics, people base their perception of an action being wrong, immoral, or corrupt, more on WHO did it than on WHAT was done.

agree?


if you agree, how do you feel we can start teaching future voters how to be logical and analytical instead of emotional when making political choices?

Sort of but not really.
I feel that pretty much anything a politician does is wrong, immoral, and corrupt, there's just never enough proof. Doesn't really matter "WHO did it."

Other than that, IMO, most people are constantly exposed to a "WHAT was done" and it's usually by the same/similar (group) "WHO did it," so simply use the "WHO" as a shortcut, a figurehead, or scapegoat.
After that process, they just keep using the shortcut.
Like mine, about all politicians.


What right do I have to force people to make logical and analytical instead of emotion based choices when voting?
And what proof is there that logical and analytical instead of emotional in political choices leads to "better" decisions?

IMO all you are really asking here is "how do we indoctrinate children towards how I think they should make decisions, rather than how I think they are going to and I don't agree with?"

I think you may have misidentified the problem.

Most of our education is already designed around encouraging logical reasoning over emotion and desire.

I think that many of the people who are doing the most and loudest personal attacks, know perfectly well that they are urging people to act against their own logical best interests. in fact, that's exactly why they are doing it.

When your plans for the world are obviously illogical, selfish, and destructive, the best way to get people to sign on anyway, is to get them to want to do ANYTHING to upset the other side. And nothing works easier than making it personal.

I think the only way to fight this technique, is to point it out repeatedly, AND refuse to join in going the other way.

I agree with that too. That is a problem. I also feel part of it is that people may not be so easily willing to make it personal if they were better informed of the ACTUAL civics and government roles, boundaries, and responsibilities. They would know how silly it was to blame a President for something that happened in a local school or for something that happens in another country where OTHERS had authority. If people understood the Presidents limits and boundaries and the chain of command does not START at the top but ends there AFTER those under the President absolve their own responsibility, perhaps these 'scandals' would not fly so well.

Most people vote on emotions rather than logic. Political campaigns and their slogans are based on stirring up peoples emotions, usually on a single issue. Education does help people make informed decisions sometimes. But even the best education is not going to nullify emotional decision making.

I guess this will start when democrats respect American Citizens, our constitution and our flag.... But to leftists this is greek and it makes no sense to their eletist though process.... so they will comtinue to be the sore loser winer, that keeps calling people who support our president deplorables.....I don't know??? Can ya fix that????
I know...there is now way to take back THAT kind of insult....

100% with you on this part. Civics (HOW the government works, in detail) supposedly was taught in the "olden days." I got some of it when I was in school, but even though I directly studied History and Political Science through college, I STILL had to do a ton of work on my own, in order to understand who does what, and even more important, who DOESN'T do what.

One of the big problems we have, is that there are a lot of people in high positions and in the business of PUTTING people into high positions, who actively work to fool people into MISUNDERSTANDING how things actually work. And since it has now been almost directly written into constitutional canon that lying about everything in order to get elected is protected speech, I don't know what can be done to balance the lies with facts.

There are millions of dollars being spent daily in the US, specifically on promoting falsehoods, from what kind of flyswatter works best, to whether or not the President can declare a crime to be legal or not.

Sometimes I wish I could harness the paranoia and the belief in conspiracy theories so many people seem to have, to get them to be equally paranoid and investigative of the people who are feeding them their comforting theories, as they are of the people the theories are aimed at.

I know that some how I personally managed to realize that NO ONE can be blindly trusted, a long time ago; and that assuming everyone is actively lying, is identical to assuming that they are telling the truth, in terms of getting a cleat picture of reality. But I'm not sure how or why exactly I did that, or how to get that sort of thing across to enough other people to make a difference.

What you're talking about is 'Sheeple' mentality.
Somewhen, not sure when exactly, people started believing what they are told instead of what they experience.

I think it has a lot to do with advertising. It might not but that's my impression. Radio and television established the advertising condition to the people. Before advertising was in radio, it was in the form of posters and signs. Basically, people are told what to buy, how to act and what to think. Like sheep being herded.

Its very difficult to see while being a sheep. You gotta remove the mass mind-shaping influences to wake up. Since it is all around us, its very difficult to remove.

The advertising discipline of mind-control has mutated over the centuries. It is no longer reserved for convincing you to buy a product. Its used to convince you of anything, anytime for any reason. We have become 'tuned' to subliminal influence.
What's more, we may see it but still not acknowledge it.

Most of society is set in a delusional state of mind. We are taught to have these delusions from our youngest age.
"Work hard and it will pay off in the end"
Most of the delusions we accept are based on someone's reality.
Bob worked hard all his life and now he is retiring in luxury.
It doesn't mean that you will, but you think it does. Mainly because the delusion is reinforced by others.

When you wake up and experience the reality before you, all the delusions and advertising methods become broken. Reality sets in.
You realize just how messed up things have gotten.
The first reaction is to start blaming others.
That in itself is also a delusion.

The only person you can blame for your gullibility is yourself.

and this is a good example of emotion over logic ...