I agree to a certain point. I took it that a belief comes from nothing and to nothing it returns and being human is to make something from nothing. Man has created beliefs as far back as can be remembered. Based on a magical or fate quality that is not verifiable scientifically but yet can be felt spiritually so making it real to each person who feels it. JMO

come on you do need faith and I will tell you why... because you can't explain to yourself without sounding delusional as to why God or Jesus can't or won't heal amputees ... that will forever haunt you

Love to watch these threads and just remember all the similar ways I used to think and believe certain ideas. Some words and ideas made me so proud of myself. I like the fact that I am free from that. I do 'understand ' the concepts and concur many of them are good ones, but only in theory and only in parts, as they are incomplete at best. Our imperfect scattered languages make it impossible to convey truth in whole because real 'truth' can only be understood in part by our own limits of thought and understanding.

"Blah blah blah", I know, "we're debating here".

No wait, "Stop being so self righteous", that's better.

Ew, "You are illogical and narrow minded you backstabbing religious hipocrit". I like that one.

Funches "You're still delusional". Yes, delusion within a delusion. life is but a dream. The matrix has you.

You wish meathead
I knew you thought that, that's why I love your predictability. I'll just leave the cables here. Let's see you jump it yourself. no, still stuck, huh. Hmmmmmmm

May I ask what scripture that Moses was ever asked to stone unruly children....

Also as this is my favorite book in the Bible and this applies I will give it to you.......oh faithless funches.

Isa.53
[1] Who hath believed our report? and to whom is the arm of the LORD revealed?
[2] For he shall grow up before him as a tender plant, and as a root out of a dry ground: he hath no form nor comeliness; and when we shall see him, there is no beauty that we should desire him.
[3] He is despised and rejected of men; a man of sorrows, and acquainted with grief: and we hid as it were our faces from him; he was despised, and we esteemed him not.
[4] Surely he hath borne our griefs, and carried our sorrows: yet we did esteem him stricken, smitten of God, and afflicted.
[5] But he was wounded for our transgressions, he was bruised for our iniquities: the chastisement of our peace was upon him; and with his stripes we are healed.
[6] All we like sheep have gone astray; we have turned every one to his own way; and the LORD hath laid on him the iniquity of us all.
[7] He was oppressed, and he was afflicted, yet he opened not his mouth: he is brought as a lamb to the slaughter, and as a sheep before her shearers is dumb, so he openeth not his mouth.
[8] He was taken from prison and from judgment: and who shall declare his generation? for he was cut off out of the land of the living: for the transgression of my people was he stricken.
[9] And he made his grave with the wicked, and with the rich in his death; because he had done no violence, neither was any deceit in his mouth.
[10] Yet it pleased the LORD to bruise him; he hath put him to grief: when thou shalt make his soul an offering for sin, he shall see his seed, he shall prolong his days, and the pleasure of the LORD shall prosper in his hand.
[11] He shall see of the travail of his soul, and shall be satisfied: by his knowledge shall my righteous servant justify many; for he shall bear their iniquities.
[12] Therefore will I divide him a portion with the great, and he shall divide the spoil with the strong; because he hath poured out his soul unto death: and he was numbered with the transgressors; and he bare the sin of many, and made intercession for the transgressors.

People...please...

This thread is not about Jesus or meatheads...or salvation..or what someone thinks is delusional...or Moses...or jumper cables...or...or...or...stay on topic...it is interesting to those who are actively participating...Ok????

GO SOMEWHERE ELSE AND PLAY...WILL YA?

now now creative....no one made you the official babysitter....

I think funches has played enough anyway

Big Hugs for creative.

you really don't know too much about the bible..maybe you should learn more before you going around telling people about Judgement Day ..

apparently creativesoul feels you religious people can't make your own decisions or think for yourself or discuss anything

no actually I think he is sick of your ramblings......maybe a name change in order funchesramblings....

makes more sense since funches isn't a word even.....oh wait maybe your gracing us from another planet is that it......yea that might be the ticket.

awwwww who's not playing nice in the sandbox?

if that was true creativesoul wouldn't be reading the posts ..see how you fool yourself to believe the obsurd

believe as you wish.......


Goodnight all......Have a wonderful evening...Off to a ministry dinner and meeting......see you tomorrow.



Let it die.......

sorry feralcatlady ..but as usual you are wrong again..funches is my real last name ..I'm what you call an Alpha Male ..I don't have to hide behind fake pictures and false names

I am.

Just playing quietly over here, building a castle, with a moat, and no drawbridge...

That's what I figured and I meant not a word....other then sur-name...and don't claim to know anything about my intellect cuz you know nothing.

I am just interested in the topic at hand... that's all...

Grumpy is as grumpy does

Artsy...

Jess:

All the other "players":

Hello!


Sorry I was distracted, trying to glue legs back on a table...