Is there such a difference in not like a politician or not liking political policies?


Many people who are very open in their complaints against government and laws and policies are quick to tell those who dont like a presidential choice that they should leave......

People I LOVE all have some things that they do or say that I do not 'like'

why do some not understand it is possible to not like some things about or some people in America without it meaning that you are somehow therefore not American enough to be here,, or should leave?


does anyone else see how silly this response is to the grievances of another ?

I tend to say that saying, more as a ploy toward those that consistently complain about political policies or laws.

Somewhat silly, but more as just a way to shut them up about their complaints.

thanks for your honesty,,,

Americans really have no right to tell other Americans to leave for any reason... but when a non American thinks they have a right to voice their opinions about our government, then i would have no problem telling them to go home...


even someone like Madonna, who has lived in England for the last twenty years, shouldn't have much of a voice, but she still is an American...

I don't see it as people just telling Americans to leave if they don't like it here.

It is more of when people threaten to leave America because they don't like something (like a President), then I think the people listening to that complaint have the right to say.

Then do what you say you are going to do... and leave.

I mean, if they are going to make that statement about leaving.. then back up those words.. and do it. Don't just complain.. anyone can do that.

most use that as a ploy for sympathy
to rally others to their cause


" I am leaving guys come on....guys??? guys??? you with me????"

not sure they really ever wanted to leave


I mean of course, anyone can move anytime they want to

I have to admit I have said those words but only as one of their choices....... we all have that choice to stay or go in any situation....

For instance if I'm at someone's house or anywhere for that matter and I don't like what's going on.......I have the choice to leave and not be involved in it..... FREE WILL... that's all we have .....

I understand being in someone elses home and leaving

but what Im talking about is being in OUR country, belonging to all of us


I just find it silly that people who themselves have gripes and complaints about things happening in AMERICA< would then suggest others should leave for having theirs,,,,

I think they should be able to speak their mind.... and have the tolerance of letting someone else speak their mind as well..... personally I have had several say what they want but not let me speak.....

I don't say they should leave just because they don't think the way I do..... I just mean we all have choices and if you think it is so bad here because you didn't get you way you always have that choice to move.....

They have all of these people in a meltdown because Hilary didn't win...I have had some that I didn't want there win but I didn't act a fool or say I wished them and their family dead.... I had this told to me on the day he got sworn in... so I told her regardless he is your president and she said no he will never be my president.... so that was when I said if that was how she felt she had the choice to go somewhere else.... I didn't say I wanted her to or that she had to ...I just told her she had choices, that she wasn't a prisoner here....


A lot of women voted for Hilary just because she was a woman.... to that I say I'm all for having a woman..... just not THAT WOMEN....

I'm hoping that Trump can get this country back to where it was so long ago when it was a great country.... we haven't been a great country to long now..... I want it to be where the government works for us instead of us working for them.....

But like always we get promised a lot and delivered very little.... it may the same this time too... but I'm willing to give it a chance....

I understand all but 'when it was a great country'

when was that?

I mean,, when was it 'greater'?

not me i know you just love everything i say lol

Actually the ones I tell to leave are the ones that promised they would if he got elected like that cow Rosie O'Donnell and Charlie Sheen.

When there was less people here and we ran around half naked?

It's a cry for attention! Do you see any of the Hollywood elite that threatened to leave if Trump got elected? Nope. Kinda disappointing too, I was really hoping Rosie would go but I guess they pre-occupied her with a cheeseburger so she's happy for the moment.

I don't think that MOST people who say that are really serious. Even when they are saying it angrily, and are saying it as an insult, they don't really mean the words as spoken. It's just another idiom for shouting "I don't want to listen to you, I have no sympathy!" Or "Your argument makes no sense!"

It's related to, but not identical to the various people over the years who have declared that they'll leave the US if such-and-such a person wins an election, or if a certain bill becomes law. There are people of all kinds who have done that, and so far, none of the famous ones at least, have actually followed through, because in the same way, they are just saying it as an idiomatic expression of opposition to whatever. Everyone from Rush Limbaugh to Miley Cyrus would already be gone, had they ACTUALLY meant what they said.

It reminds me most, of a common childhood admonition many of us in ever increasingly exaggerated mock seriousness, when ever someone said they "loved" some thing, or food or whatever:

"WEEEELllll, why don't you MEEEEAAAAAARRRRRRYYYY it then?"

Personally, I didn't vote for either candidate. I voted constitutional. In my opinion neither one was qualified for the job. Neither one was going to represent me, the citizen.

There is a serious problem with a POTUS that believes they are going to do things 'they' want in the name of the whole United States. POTUS is there to enact the will of the people of the country. A representative to the world of you, me and the rest of the country.

Congress is there to provide the will of the people so POTUS knows what they want. If the state's representatives are not speaking and promoting the will of the people in their state, POTUS gets bad information.

The state representatives get their information from the regional or counties of each state. Those entities get their information from city and town halls in their 'territories'. The mayors/representatives of towns and cities get the will of the people from the communities and so on.

When the chain of communication breaks between the people and the POTUS things get screwed up at the top.
"The Buck Stops Here"

The problem occurs when one of the people we hired to represent our will starts to represent their own will or the will of a select few. It also occurs when 'We The People' do not take a hand in the policies and actions that are being done in our name.

To me, anyone that complains about any level of their own government is part of the problem because they are tolerating ineptitude and narcissism from a select few. Not just the POTUS, EVERYONE that is there to represent the will of the people.

Ask any representative at any level what the will of the people is and you will get answers that are not in alignment with yours. Either they didn't care what you want or you didn't care enough to tell them.

When you go to your town hall meeting and voice your concerns to your representatives it is their job to enact those things that can be done at the town level and send your other concerns to the next level of government. That next level enacts those concerns that are in their control and the rest go to the next level. All the way to the POTUS.

If a representative fails to do their job effectively the POTUS gets bombarded with concerns that should not even be a national level concern. What you get are laws and policies that do not represent your will.

As far as I am concerned, anyone that complains about any level of the government should look in the mirror first.

I think the complication comes in with the focus on 'the people'

as we see in our electoral college 'the people' is not as simple as it sounds at all


some groups want one thing and some groups want another, consensus never happens amongst 'the people'

and then, congress can represent their 'people' when it comes to those things in the congress power, but even then , I the citizen, have no way to know which PEOPLE they heard from the most, or what will they will represent

If I believe, because there is no way to know, that congress represents the people(those they heard from most?) than I have to believe that presidential vetos are a scurge,,,for giving president the power to go against the will of THE PEOPLE

but at the end of the day, I do not know what the will of the people is in most cases, because I am just one amongst millions,,,,,

... I think it's amusing how so many people act violently and vulgar in hopes of making a point.. I say they should experience life in another country before they think they are so deprived here.. It doesn't take much of a brain to see how good we have it in the USA... I'm totally offended by the women that strap a giant vag**a on their head and complain about a tastefully done photo of the First Lady..but to each their own... I don't say get out of the USA... I just think people that are so upset should see what it's like elsewhere before they make a stink..

I can see the point of 'counting your blessings' so to speak

I do it constantly , however, not to the point of ignoring things that can and should be improved upon

because someone else is worse, doesn't necessarily mean I cant be BETTER