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Topic: Christianity is man made?
Eljay's photo
Sun 11/18/07 02:57 PM
Edited by Eljay on Sun 11/18/07 02:57 PM


voile:

Unless you Eljay were to treat 'evolution' as a religion, or doctrine of belief, which it is not, and consider Darwin as some sort of Jesus/God, whch I think might be blasphemous to say the least...


As a rule, I tend to consider it more religion than science, but I would catogorize Darwin with the Mary Baker Eddy's, Joseph Smith's, and Armstrongs - that is false prophets, than I would a Jesus/God.

creativesoul's photo
Sun 11/18/07 04:40 PM
Pardon me, fellas and ladies....

Don't mind me....

while I look aroud the place for a long lost unicycle....

I know it is around here somewhere... laugh

KerryO's photo
Sun 11/18/07 04:44 PM

KerryO,

You have accomplished to improve your discourse and have put a bit more effort into your continuum.



Well, like I always say, take care of your continuum and it will take care of you.



The only question I see is based on cursory perusals of various translations still contending the use of mansions in the sky.
The relevance of that question ignores my comment that not all things Biblical were, are, will be literal in their interpretable scope of presented imagery, and yet you continue to posit that the contradictions exist unanswerably lacking credibility, continuity, clarity,authenticity and trustworthiness.



No, I continue to assert that, counter to yours and the OP's contention that Bible doesn't describe heaven for the faithful in superlatives, words mean things. And if you're going to hold people accountable for how they interpret the words, they should be clear and NOT subjective interpretation governed by the whimsy of the interpreter.

Are the streets paved in gold or are they not? That's a yes or no question. According to the Bible, they are. And if that's true, is the dwelling place at least comparable to the grandiose ones promised in Islam or is it not?



The fact remains that there is more than meets the eye at first glance, that it is intellectually dishonest to chime a parroted echo in defence of endless debate over nuances



What nuance??? There's a whale of a difference between 'room' and 'mansion'. While mansions may have many rooms, rooms don't contain many mansions. Let's try it this way--somehow, the Playboy room doesn't quite sound anywere nearly as superlative as Playboy mansion. So I as again, what nuance?




that afford the deceitfulness of man opportunity to abdicate personal responsibility for investigative research of the subject within the parameters of the discipline understanding beforehand that the imagery is representative and inclusive of an intended and necessary submission to the guidance and communication of a spiritual truth.



I see-- so when I am adamant about words meaning exactly what they say, I'm trifling with nuances. Yet, I'm charged to submit to and embrace imagery as guidance and holy writ lest I be deemed as decietful for not being diligent? Nope, no contradiction there!




As far as ad hominum diatribe and rhetorical evasiveness
intended to justify a precognizant position as authoritative and germaine to the topic and the divisions between the particpants in this debate is concerned, I can only choose to
remain adversarial to the inconclusiveness of your will to successful inquiry into the consistencies remaning elusive to you with regards to this subject so long as your personal sovereignty is guardedly sequestered from exposure to spiritual truths that risk tendering moot one's validity and purpose.



Well for once I agree with you. What you meant by the above surely eludes me. Gobbledygook was never one of my strong suits.



Assuming that scientific investigation has been your life long pursuit, observation of nature's mechanics can only glean knowledge of the physical world.



'Only'? I'd say the human race has derived more benefit from the work of a few scientists than from all the priests, holy men and shamans combined. They had their day in medieval times, exactly what did they accomplish?




Assuming that your soul and spirit require physical observations to understand the mechanics of spiritual properties, one can only reason that insufficient will and determination is present to intelligently
engage in any further discussion of the merits relevant to the topic at hand, as pertaining to any benefit to you other than the incessant whining and tantric machinations being embraced.



Ok, there's the obligatory mention of 'whine' that is part and parcel of all of Wouldee's posts, sigaling that there's absolutely nothing else new on this carrier. I've made my points and I'm not going to stupid my way through any more posturing with this poster. I don't tolerate this kind of willful mudslinging from leisure debate partners.



-Kerry O.







wouldee's photo
Sun 11/18/07 05:04 PM
Aw, shucks.


artfully ducked.



Masterfully avoided.




Hope you say hello when He calls>




Cheerio, KerryO.!!!!




smokin drinker bigsmile

KerryO's photo
Sun 11/18/07 06:11 PM

Aw, shucks.


artfully ducked.



Masterfully avoided.




Hope you say hello when He calls>




Cheerio, KerryO.!!!!




smokin drinker bigsmile



Oh, the sound of one hand clapping.


-Kerry O.

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