"if a man is that way he doesn't need the love of a woman just the love of himself"
Conversely, how many people would tell you that you NEED to love yourself to the point where you don't need the love of a woman so that you won't come off as "desperate" when lady-ing?

"I love nice guys but very hard to trust them"
Why? Nice guys don't get chicks. Who do you think they're going to cheat on you with?

"So not that nice guys aren't good enough, just the pain they can cause is not worth it."
You're a stupid b*tch who's going to die alone with a pair of meat curtains because you decided to pursue the bad boys instead of taking a chance on someone who will treat you right. Skank.

There. I just played the part of the bad boy. Do you want to have sex with me now?

"Dont be afraid to show your feelings. We like attention."
You women have made me TERRIFIED to show my feelings because any slight inclination that I like someone more than a friend has caused her to want to lose all communication with me. Why?

"Honesty. Not to many people are honest anymore."
I'm as honest as they come. It's not MY fault that women see me as "just a friend" when I reveal my honesty to them.

umm bob i think you need to ummm get off your soap box by the way i was making a joke thats why there were laughing smilies yea i was only talking about conceited guys i didn't think this would offend anyone unless your admitting something or if conceited men are your type then that cool to

If you're joking, you need to include a "J/K" in there somewhere.

The only thing I find offensive in this conversation is how nonsensical the "rules" have become.

what is wrong with you the laughs are the joke part! how can that offend you! omg! wait i have it i got it!>>>> <<< = joke got it sweety?

how nonsensical the "rules" have become. what rules?

oops i mean j/k

As soon as you find out please let me know oh and the sheep too

some people WOW

What rules? Are you even READING this thread? Practically EVERYTHING that's being described here as what women "want" is grossly contradicting everything else.

Sanity

huh? that is the thread what women want i just said what they don't want a a conceited man which would mean they want a loving man GOT IT! MY GOD

"what they don't want a a conceited man which would mean they want a loving man"
Which is, logically, why they continue to pursue pricks, liars, and cheaters, right?

well by the looks of it... no i wont say it and no not every woman, but if your as picky in real life as you are in threads.... then i am not surprised

No, DO say it. What is it that you were going to say in response to me being both honest about how I feel as well as being an emotional challenge (since it's clear that you don't like what I'm saying right now). After all, that IS what women want, right? Guys who are honest and not just Yes-Men?

All I want in real life is a woman who doesn't see logic or reason in pursuing massive behavioral contradictions. Does that make my standards too high?

i want a man who talks out of...... oops no i wont

actually bob i prefer manikins, they are both honest and good lovers

Are you talking about mannequins, or is "manikins" describing something else I just haven't heard about? Assuming that it's just a typo that you're talking about, you prefer hunks of plastic that have no life, no opinions or emotions, and no capability of treating you in any particular way whatsoever. Nope. Nothing wrong with THAT picture.

nope i just like to travel to my local shopping mall and check out all the mannequins on display they make great partners! watch out they may never call you back!

So would it be safe to say confidence not arrogance.Does that sum it up ?