Topic: Trump or Clinton?
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Mon 11/07/16 11:14 AM
Who's going to Win?


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Mon 11/07/16 11:25 AM
Not the American people ohwell

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Mon 11/07/16 11:30 AM

Not the American people ohwell I agree it has only gotten worse with PACs and Lobbyists who now control the house and senate with affluenza and political clout. Many are voting for the lesser of two known nefarious people...

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Mon 11/07/16 12:28 PM

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Mon 11/07/16 12:34 PM




:thumbsup: laugh

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Mon 11/07/16 12:48 PM
Bovada online casino presidential current odds line...

Clinton -550//////Trump. +375/////all others +10,000

this means...Clinton bettors must put up $550 dollars to win $100 dollars
and.............. Trump bettors who put up $100 dollars will win $375 dollars in return...

so, for my choice.... i'll go with the *smart money* favorite and take Clinton...



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Mon 11/07/16 12:58 PM
A monkey called Geda, described locally as “the king of prophets,” kisses the cardboard cutout of Republican presidential nominee Donald Trump on Nov. 3 in Changsha, China. The selection is intended to predict the result of the U.S. election.
With U.S. polls yo-yoing and conspiracy theories swirling on both sides of the political spectrum, some of the smartest people in politics are at a loss in predicting the outcome of Tuesday's presidential election.

So, since people can't seem to predict the most epic election in U.S. history, why not let animals give it a shot?

Thankfully, the Shiyanhu Ecological Tourism Park in China's Hunan province had the same idea, and decided to roll out their not-so-secret weapon for unmasking the future: a Chinese monkey described as the "king of prophets," according to Agence France-Presse.

His name is Geda, and local legend has pegged him as a mystical monkey with prophetic insight — one with an impressive record of correctly predicting the winners of European soccer matches.

This time, Geda was asked to predict the winner of the U.S. presidential election and — unlike many a highly-paid pollster — he did exactly that, AFP reported, and with absolute conviction, going as far as planting a smooch on the winner's face.

Geda — whose name means "goose bumps" — cast his vote by selecting bananas beside life-size cutouts of Donald Trump and Hillary Clinton.

"After 'deliberate thought,' the mystic monkey chose Mr. Trump, Shiyanhu Ecological Tourism Park said on Thursday," according to AFP. "Without even waiting, he congratulated the cardboard candidate with a kiss on the lips."

Geda, who is 5 years old and wears a yellow shirt advertising his title, correctly predicted that Portugal would win the 2016 European football championship in July, AFP reported. Two days later, Cristiano Ronaldo's team defeated France 1-0 in overtime.

The Chinese news media is playing close attention to the U.S. presidential election because of the damning fodder it has provided the state-run propaganda machine, according to AFP.

The tumultuous, insult-laden election cycle has offered the closely-monitored Chinese media a rare opportunity to disparage America's democratic traditions and the leaders who normally promote them.

" 'The innumerable scandals, rumours, conspiracy theories and obscenities make it impossible for a person to look away,' the official Xinhua news service wrote in a commentary last week, likening the 2016 election to a train wreck," AFP reported.

The AFP didn't clarify whether Geda, the soothsaying simian, was intended as a mockery of American politics or merely a promotional tool for the ecological park that organized his appearance. He may be special, but he's not unique. The monkey's extrasensory insight is supposedly shared by other animals around the globe who have been asked to predict high-pressure sporting events and political elections.

In 2012, according to the Raycom News Network, a 9-year-old squirrel named Gnocchi was asked to predict the outcome of the U.S. presidential election after correctly identifying the winner four years earlier. On his second try, Gnocchi failed, eating nine peanuts from a bowl representing Mitt Romney and only five from an President Obama bowl.

Perhaps the most astute animal psychic in recent memory is Paul the Octopus, a cephalopod who correctly predicted the results of all eight soccer games played by Germany in the World Cup in South Africa in 2010, AFP reported. Paul — who made his predictions by selecting a mussel in a box draped in each country's flag — even selected Spain over the Netherlands in the World Cup final.

Paul, the eight-armed native of Weymouth, England, didn't initially reveal his supernatural talent at the Sea Life Centre where he was born, his caretakers told the Daily Beast in 2014.

After he was transferred to Sea Life Oberhausen, an aquarium in Germany, his powers became manifest, the Daily Beast reported. Eventually, a German TV station began broadcasting each selection, turning Paul into an immediate celebrity.

"He never made any predictions while he was living here, but maybe he was waiting for a big event like the World Cup until he revealed his abilities," said Fiona Smith, a Sea Life Centre employee.

Paul "died peacefully of natural causes" in 2010, Der Spiegel wrote in a 2010 obituary highlighting the animal's rise to international fame.

"There was a one in 256 chance that he would get all eight predictions right," the paper reported. "Paul's success rate confounded mathematicians, angered bookmakers and spooked hundreds of millions of football fans around the world."

"Paul delighted people from all continents with his seven consecutive correct predictions for the matches of the German national team and for the final," the aquarium's general manager, Stefan Porwoll, told the paper. "He was dear to all our hearts and we will sorely miss him. He died peacefully in the night of natural causes. It is a comforting thought that he had a good life with us with the best possible care delivered by a committed team."

By 2014, people around the world began turning to animals to predict World Cup games, including an elephant, a cow, a Bengali white tiger, a Japanese otter and a Brazilian turtle, according to the Guardian.

Not to be forgotten was Shaheen, a "clairvoyant camel" in Dubai who, at one point, was "19-of-29 on his World Cup picks, giving him a respectable 66 percent success rate," according to Bleacher Report.

More recently, a group of orphaned dogs in Cleveland, were asked by Cleveland.com reporters to choose between Clinton and Trump by selecting presidential chew toys in a "highly unscientific poll" that still bears some resemblance to a real-life election cycles.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/news/worldviews/wp/2016/11/05/this-mystical-chinese-monkey-has-figured-out-who-will-win-the-u-s-election/

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Mon 11/07/16 01:38 PM

Who's going to Win?




Well, all the arguments have been made on both sides. In one day we will know.

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Mon 11/07/16 02:42 PM


ONE THING I KNOW FOR SURE THE GOVERNMENT IS BROKEN ....THE CLINTONS HAVE BEEN A

PART OF THE PROBLEM FOR DECADES.....THERE IS NO WAY I WILL VOTE FOR ANYONE WHO

HAS BEEN PART OF THE PROBLEM........THE NATIONAL DEBT IS WAY OUT OF CONTROL,

THEY HAVE TAKEN OUR CIVIL RIGHTS AND TRASHED THEM BY REQUIRING ITS CITIZENS TO

PURCHASE HEALTH INSURANCE FROM PRIVATE COMPANIES....THE LIST JUST GOES ON AND

ON........THE DEPT OF JUSTICE HEADS ARE APPOINTED AND CONTROLLED BY THE

LIBERALS. THEY SHOULD NOT BE APPOINTED BY RULING PARTY IT IS A LICENSE FOR A

FREE FOR ALL.....ITS BEYOND BROKEN.......

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Mon 11/07/16 04:39 PM
Well, this election has been like no other ( that I remember). In past elections my mind was made up fairly early. But fact is ( for me) both are flawed. Both do not stand out as a crystal clear leader for various reasons.

So I find myself voting for the one who I think will do less damage

That is not a idea situation to be in. But then again, this election has been like no other.

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Mon 11/07/16 04:53 PM
I already voted.

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Mon 11/07/16 04:56 PM
me too, in and out , cant stand lengthy lines and overheard conversations