yes, maybe we can stop PAYING criminals to be criminals,,,

oh wait, they are CRIMINALS

please people, stop equating the say citizens should have in the behavior of their police with they say they have in criminals choices


and there is no 'start' , there are many different areas for improvement and many different people and groups to address the simultaneously

They took over another groups festivities to further their cause, that's what this thread is about. The BLM movement that branched out to Toronto Canada is puzzling to me, who are these people? they need foment division? when there aren't significant race related shooting deaths here?

The hate originates the second those officers pull the trigger is what BLM pushes, those officers hate the black community? I personally think they pull the trigger because they're scared to death themselves, in most cases anyway.

So the BLM cause is based on hate IMO I don't see many accomplishments in the reverse of racism, I see more and more racism from some BLM supporters wanting to target whites

read on the BLM is my suggestion, instead of taking the media soundbytes and tidbits as the whole story

some people take a legitimate group to espouse their bigoted nonsense, like some racists do with the republican party

but that has little to do with what the group as a whole or its original founding and intent is,,,


here is a good starting point,,if anyone has any genuine interest in understanding,,,,,

http://blacklivesmatter.com/11-major-misconceptions-about-the-black-lives-matter-movement/

I wish those 3 girls well, a year old and this movement already morphed into a more violent nature, basically attracting all the whackjobs to the show.


"the complete dismantling of the prison industrial complex. Many of the movement’s organizers identify as abolitionists" ~BLM

its not morphing, just going through the growing pains

and yeah, the way people support dismantling 'obamacare',, seems blm wants to 'dismantle' the prison system


I never support complete dismantling as the end all be all, I prefer restructuring , makes sense to review and change the parts that are not working as expected but keep the parts that are

Riveting post by black police officer confronts BLM with raw honesty and EVERY American needs to see it

The post contains piercing words from Stalien and should be read in its entirety. Here are a few highlights:

Suspect- Black/ Male, Victim-Black /Male.

I remember the countless times I canvassed the area afterwards, and asked everyone “did you see who did it”, and the popular response from the very same family members was always, “**** the Police, I aint no snitch, I’m gonna take care of this myself. This happened every single time, every single homicide, black on black, and then my realization became clearer.

I woke up every morning, put my freshly pressed uniform on, shined my badge, functioned checked my weapon, kissed my wife and kid, and waited for my wife to say the same thing she always does before I leave, “Make sure you come back home to us”. I always replied, “I will”, but the truth was I was never sure if I would. I almost lost my life on this job, and every call, every stop, every moment that I had this uniform on, was another possibility for me to almost lose my life again. I was a target in the very community I swore to protect, the very community I wanted to help. As a matter of fact, they hated my very presence. They called me “Uncle Tom”, and “wanna be white boy”, and I couldn’t understand why. My own fellow black men and women attacking me, wishing for my death, wishing for the death of my family. I was so confused, so torn, I couldn’t understand why my own black people would turn against me, when every time they called …I was there. Every time someone died….I was there. Every time they were going through one of the worst moments in their lives…I was there. So why was I the enemy? I dove deep into that question…Why was I the enemy? Then my realization became clearer.

<article here>

http://www.bizpacreview.com/2016/07/10/riveting-post-by-black-police-officer-confronts-blm-with-raw-honesty-and-every-american-needs-to-see-it-363067

One of the BLM leaders made a trip to my state over the weekend to join in on the protests. After failing, several times, to obey orders to stay out of the public roadways, he got to spend the the night in the East Baton Rouge Parish Jail.
Afterwards a tweet he made seemed to show he didn't appreciate the free breakfast he was given....

deray mckesson
@deray
17h
Sidenote: jail breakfast is awful & they'd be much better off buying apples to replace the "oatmeal" & the OJ is grainy.

Poor Deray

He also just loves posting this a lot....

deray mckesson
@deray
3h
I love my blackness. And yours.

the only "inherent fear" is the lie black people keep telling themselves that everyone is against them...

slaves this, slaves that... get over it, not one black alive today has ever been a slave...

in case you forget, white people have to deal with the same laws as well, and when we don't do what a cop says to do, we get shot just as quick...

so just cry me a river on your "poor black man" speeches, it only works with the stupid liberals that don't know any better than to listen to these lies...

no, Im saying that with a demographic of millions,, there is no 'start' ,, there are ongoing and coinciding efforts on coinciding fronts

they dont have to be done ONE at a time,, but concurrently, ,and they are

so yes, black people are as concerned about crime in their communities as any other people

and they are doing just as much on that front in their communities as any other people


but there is no reason that all 30 million have to only focus on that

there is also a concern about police being held accountable for their actions in their communities,, and some of that 30 million have every right and responsibility to address that too

and yes, it is unfortunate that certain citizens see cops as the enemy
just like certain cops see the citizens they are paid to protect and serve as enemies


the relationship needs work on BOTH sides,,, but it begins with a sense of trust an accountability on BOTH SIDES


just happens one side has a job they are paid for,, so there are expectations that can actually be addressed and changed through policy and law

this is not about black and white,, that is the lie some white people tell themselves as an excuse to be dismissive and unconcerned and well, ,superior

You just made it about black and white with this post.... "" lie that some white people"....those are YOUR words...so even YOU make it a racial issue just like all the other blm dumbazzes. Go get a ladder and get off that damned high horse youre on.

no,, see , this is the tunnelvision thats causing the most division


like i said, the bully wants to quit kicking you but then cries if someone gets you a doctor,, because that makes it about you and not him too

I responded, as I normally do right before being pointed to as having an agenda or some nonsense, to the previous post about how black people are telling themselves a lie'



see,, though actions on the front seem identical,, the details of whether they are an action or a REaction,,make a difference

what does someones parents marital status play into their deserving to die?

please explain this to me,,

all these tangents are nice to paint a 'they deserved to die' picture

but in that moment before they are killed is the person with the power asking them first how many kids were in their family or if their dad was around

NO

complete nonsense, in this discussion


point is, police are paid and trained and given resources to both serve and protect,, not to be juror and executioner

and if there is a problem with some officers choosing lethal force before deescalation, those officers need to be held accountable by the system

point blank. PERIOD

That is one huge, steaming, stinking pile of spun bull$hlt.. But...its expected.


*Edit- I just read your pessimistic drool in another thread concerning the Dallas Police Chief. I apologize, I didnt realize you were trolling out here.
I'll consider ALL your future posts on police and race as such.
You just want an argument....carry on.

lol,, lol,,,,,,,,ignore, ignore, ignore,,

but no complaint to the previous post regarding the 'lies blacks tell themselves'



got it,,,

As I see it, parties on both sides of this argument don't want to hear what the other side has to say.

For example, if a white party has a legitimate grievance against a black party, then the former will be accused of being a bully who is trying to silence a victim.

Acknowledging that all races are equal means acknowledging that all racial parties may have legitimate grievances.

I agree , 'legitimate' being a subjective standard

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