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"Shallowness" is one of the concern factors of dating which has always been on my "most annoying stupid concepts" list. Mainly, because it's one of several of what I think of as "cover-up" concepts. People use "shallowness" as a cartoonish way to refuse to directly face up to real world concerns and worries. Worse, once the idea of a person being "shallow" became popular, it was turned into a manipulative label to try to force people, or guilt trip them into forcing themselves, to live in a way what was non-stop uncomfortable and wrong for them. So. In this case, I see a couple of mistakes being made. First and most obvious, is to try to "fix" it by addressing it as a question of "shallowness." By doing so, the possible choices for this guy are reduced to * lie to himself and the woman by PRETENDING to like saggy breasts; * label himself as a "shallow" person, and thereby excuse himself from learning anything about real life. The other thing I see wrong here, is that you are describing our friend as thinking that she led him on, when what really happened, was that he made assumptions about her which proved incorrect. I would encourage you to point that out to him, mainly because there's the danger that I see so many people fall in to, where they BLAME the other person for their own disappointments, and either are rude to them, or mistreat them, or try to guilt trip them in some way. . But I'm sure maybe yourself and some other men out there will agree.. Women do have a way of highlighting their attributes and covering up there ... what to say here... issues..lol.. So in a way they do .. deceive men.. Starting with makeup.. then there are their high heel shoes to make them look taller.. girdles push-up bras.. False eyelashes.. implants even... Maybe my friend's girlfriend should make him pay for implants.. tell him if you don't like my boobs buy me new ones..lol.. he will just say great!.. I just met her and already she wants me to buy her new boobs.... typical woman..jk Nods...I did almost suggest that.. |
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"Shallowness" is one of the concern factors of dating which has always been on my "most annoying stupid concepts" list. Mainly, because it's one of several of what I think of as "cover-up" concepts. People use "shallowness" as a cartoonish way to refuse to directly face up to real world concerns and worries. Worse, once the idea of a person being "shallow" became popular, it was turned into a manipulative label to try to force people, or guilt trip them into forcing themselves, to live in a way what was non-stop uncomfortable and wrong for them. So. In this case, I see a couple of mistakes being made. First and most obvious, is to try to "fix" it by addressing it as a question of "shallowness." By doing so, the possible choices for this guy are reduced to * lie to himself and the woman by PRETENDING to like saggy breasts; * label himself as a "shallow" person, and thereby excuse himself from learning anything about real life. The other thing I see wrong here, is that you are describing our friend as thinking that she led him on, when what really happened, was that he made assumptions about her which proved incorrect. I would encourage you to point that out to him, mainly because there's the danger that I see so many people fall in to, where they BLAME the other person for their own disappointments, and either are rude to them, or mistreat them, or try to guilt trip them in some way. . But I'm sure maybe yourself and some other men out there will agree.. Women do have a way of highlighting their attributes and covering up there ... what to say here... issues..lol.. So in a way they do .. deceive men.. Starting with makeup.. then there are their high heel shoes to make them look taller.. girdles push-up bras.. False eyelashes.. implants even... Maybe my friend's girlfriend should make him pay for implants.. tell him if you don't like my boobs buy me new ones..lol.. he will just say great!.. I just met her and already she wants me to buy her new boobs.... typical woman..jk Nods...I did almost suggest that.. You know I could probably really use a new bed... because we are going to be spending a lot of time on it.. |
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"Shallowness" is one of the concern factors of dating which has always been on my "most annoying stupid concepts" list. Mainly, because it's one of several of what I think of as "cover-up" concepts. People use "shallowness" as a cartoonish way to refuse to directly face up to real world concerns and worries. Worse, once the idea of a person being "shallow" became popular, it was turned into a manipulative label to try to force people, or guilt trip them into forcing themselves, to live in a way what was non-stop uncomfortable and wrong for them. So. In this case, I see a couple of mistakes being made. First and most obvious, is to try to "fix" it by addressing it as a question of "shallowness." By doing so, the possible choices for this guy are reduced to * lie to himself and the woman by PRETENDING to like saggy breasts; * label himself as a "shallow" person, and thereby excuse himself from learning anything about real life. The other thing I see wrong here, is that you are describing our friend as thinking that she led him on, when what really happened, was that he made assumptions about her which proved incorrect. I would encourage you to point that out to him, mainly because there's the danger that I see so many people fall in to, where they BLAME the other person for their own disappointments, and either are rude to them, or mistreat them, or try to guilt trip them in some way. . But I'm sure maybe yourself and some other men out there will agree.. Women do have a way of highlighting their attributes and covering up there ... what to say here... issues..lol.. So in a way they do .. deceive men.. Starting with makeup.. then there are their high heel shoes to make them look taller.. girdles push-up bras.. False eyelashes.. implants even... Maybe my friend's girlfriend should make him pay for implants.. tell him if you don't like my boobs buy me new ones..lol.. he will just say great!.. I just met her and already she wants me to buy her new boobs.... typical woman..jk If you really think about it (you are right) there's just too much cover up out there but people tend to accept the permanent ones rather than the temporary ones. Anyways society has become much more shallow than in the past because of the media brainwashing and programing. Where is the love...... I |
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Money you spend on someone you love and their happiness is never wasted.
Especially if you reap rewards from it |
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"Shallowness" is one of the concern factors of dating which has always been on my "most annoying stupid concepts" list. Mainly, because it's one of several of what I think of as "cover-up" concepts. People use "shallowness" as a cartoonish way to refuse to directly face up to real world concerns and worries. Worse, once the idea of a person being "shallow" became popular, it was turned into a manipulative label to try to force people, or guilt trip them into forcing themselves, to live in a way what was non-stop uncomfortable and wrong for them. So. In this case, I see a couple of mistakes being made. First and most obvious, is to try to "fix" it by addressing it as a question of "shallowness." By doing so, the possible choices for this guy are reduced to * lie to himself and the woman by PRETENDING to like saggy breasts; * label himself as a "shallow" person, and thereby excuse himself from learning anything about real life. The other thing I see wrong here, is that you are describing our friend as thinking that she led him on, when what really happened, was that he made assumptions about her which proved incorrect. I would encourage you to point that out to him, mainly because there's the danger that I see so many people fall in to, where they BLAME the other person for their own disappointments, and either are rude to them, or mistreat them, or try to guilt trip them in some way. . But I'm sure maybe yourself and some other men out there will agree.. Women do have a way of highlighting their attributes and covering up there ... what to say here... issues..lol.. So in a way they do .. deceive men.. Starting with makeup.. then there are their high heel shoes to make them look taller.. girdles push-up bras.. False eyelashes.. implants even... Maybe my friend's girlfriend should make him pay for implants.. tell him if you don't like my boobs buy me new ones..lol.. he will just say great!.. I just met her and already she wants me to buy her new boobs.... typical woman..jk If you really think about it (you are right) there's just too much cover up out there but people tend to accept the permanent ones rather than the temporary ones. Anyways society has become much more shallow than in the past because of the media brainwashing and programing. Where is the love...... I |
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There's a big element of guys trying to have things both ways with this claim that "women are trying to deceive us" stuff.
All my life, I've seen the very same guys calling on women to dress up, wear high heals, frilly underwear, "hot" make up and so on, in order to entertain them and get them hot. Notice how many guys complain bitterly when a woman shows up in a sweatsuit and no makeup, and expects to be thought of as desirable? But it's those same guys, when their fantasy proves to be "hotter" than the woman actually is after the makeup and hot clothes come off, who want to claim that women are trying to trick them. I have no patience with that transparent hypocrisy myself. But I wouldn't call that 'shallowness,' I'd call it thoughtlessness and selfishness. |
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Hmmmm well Shallow Hal... if he is liking the entire rest of the package and wants them to stand at attention then pay for a lift relatively inexpensive.
And You can say we women false advertise and yet what about men.. Somethings are what they seem on them either. just saying... so to me I will wear my pretty bras and panties and if someone doesn't like what it looks like without the bra.. NEXT.... |
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There's a big element of guys trying to have things both ways with this claim that "women are trying to deceive us" stuff. All my life, I've seen the very same guys calling on women to dress up, wear high heals, frilly underwear, "hot" make up and so on, in order to entertain them and get them hot. Notice how many guys complain bitterly when a woman shows up in a sweatsuit and no makeup, and expects to be thought of as desirable? But it's those same guys, when their fantasy proves to be "hotter" than the woman actually is after the makeup and hot clothes come off, who want to claim that women are trying to trick them. I have no patience with that transparent hypocrisy myself. But I wouldn't call that 'shallowness,' I'd call it thoughtlessness and selfishness. |
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Hmmmm well Shallow Hal... if he is liking the entire rest of the package and wants them to stand at attention then pay for a lift relatively inexpensive. And You can say we women false advertise and yet what about men.. Somethings are what they seem on them either. just saying... so to me I will wear my pretty bras and panties and if someone doesn't like what it looks like without the bra.. NEXT.... |
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If it's a deal breaker for him, it's a deal breaker....period.
It's his call, now if he thinks this will be a constant issue....it's unfair for him to stay with her....because he can't give his all.. because he'll constantly be focused on this one thing.... maybe he is just shallow...but our whole society is....why invent makeup, spanx, six-pack abs, hair gel, all these things are focused solely on the physical. Its his choice to place value on what he wants...Nothing wrong With it |
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"Shallowness" is one of the concern factors of dating which has always been on my "most annoying stupid concepts" list. Mainly, because it's one of several of what I think of as "cover-up" concepts. People use "shallowness" as a cartoonish way to refuse to directly face up to real world concerns and worries. Worse, once the idea of a person being "shallow" became popular, it was turned into a manipulative label to try to force people, or guilt trip them into forcing themselves, to live in a way what was non-stop uncomfortable and wrong for them. So. In this case, I see a couple of mistakes being made. First and most obvious, is to try to "fix" it by addressing it as a question of "shallowness." By doing so, the possible choices for this guy are reduced to * lie to himself and the woman by PRETENDING to like saggy breasts; * label himself as a "shallow" person, and thereby excuse himself from learning anything about real life. The other thing I see wrong here, is that you are describing our friend as thinking that she led him on, when what really happened, was that he made assumptions about her which proved incorrect. I would encourage you to point that out to him, mainly because there's the danger that I see so many people fall in to, where they BLAME the other person for their own disappointments, and either are rude to them, or mistreat them, or try to guilt trip them in some way. . But I'm sure maybe yourself and some other men out there will agree.. Women do have a way of highlighting their attributes and covering up there ... what to say here... issues..lol.. So in a way they do .. deceive men.. Starting with makeup.. then there are their high heel shoes to make them look taller.. girdles push-up bras.. False eyelashes.. implants even... Maybe my friend's girlfriend should make him pay for implants.. tell him if you don't like my boobs buy me new ones..lol.. he will just say great!.. I just met her and already she wants me to buy her new boobs.... typical woman..jk If you really think about it (you are right) there's just too much cover up out there but people tend to accept the permanent ones rather than the temporary ones. Anyways society has become much more shallow than in the past because of the media brainwashing and programing. Where is the love...... I  
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Bottom line is its our life and ours only to live. We have the right to think and feel what we like so long as we respect and treat others with dignity. Personally I do have my "shallow hal' but as I age I am finding that how a man makes me feel inside is what matters the most and what was physically annoying no longer exists.
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Bottom line is its our life and ours only to live. We have the right to think and feel what we like so long as we respect and treat others with dignity. Personally I do have my "shallow hal' but as I age I am finding that how a man makes me feel inside is what matters the most and what was physically annoying no longer exists. Because.. now I know you will be happy with two and a quarter inches.... Wow that's such a relief ..now I can stop walking around with a rolled up sock in my pants.... I so hate deceiving women..lol.wink |
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What constitutes being shallow..? I ask because I know someone.. They have come to me with a particular problem.. that they are having ...a inner struggle... Here's the dealio..lol.. This person who has come to me ! He said To me ..I have met someone!.. She is amazing.. she has everything going for her.. I have been dating her for over 3 weeks now.. we have the same sense of humor, we make each other laugh we make each other feel good.. I thought she was perfect.. I said to him ..what do you mean you thought?.. He says ..I have seen her for over three weeks now.. things were going great... then the time came for us to be intimate.. he said he took off his clothes she liked what she saw..! Then it was her turn to undress She removed her bra.. and her boobs dropped to her knees..... at that moment he felt crushed.. and no! not by her boobs..lol.. he said he was disappointed.. he could not get over how droopy her boobs were... He said to me.. every time they went out together she highlighted her breasts in a beautiful bra.. they seemed absolutely perfect... he didn't think there was an issue... At this point.. I said to him no one's perfect I said to him !well that's a little shallow of yourself... He said yes! I think the same thing I feel horrible about it... but I just can't get past the fact that her boobs droop... it really bothers him.!. I can tell that he truly likes this person.. he says He would like to make it work between them.... but no matter how hard he tries he just can't get over.. her droopy boobs... he feels like he was deceived a little bit.. because she always seemed to make her breast seem so firm and perky. Within her bra and clothing. at least from what he could tell..... He doesn't know what to do now.. He says he feels like he is being Shallow.. but he also knows that he wants to be with somebody... that doesn't have this issue..so..is he.?. You know! Shallow Hal..lol.. Oh come out with it already. this story is about you. So did you like them boobs then   
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Hmmmm well Shallow Hal... if he is liking the entire rest of the package and wants them to stand at attention then pay for a lift relatively inexpensive. And You can say we women false advertise and yet what about men.. Somethings are what they seem on them either. just saying... so to me I will wear my pretty bras and panties and if someone doesn't like what it looks like without the bra.. NEXT.... Yeah Right and we both know that if I said okay let's get your opinion you would run for the hills.. We both know that 
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What constitutes being shallow..? I ask because I know someone.. They have come to me with a particular problem.. that they are having ...a inner struggle... Here's the dealio..lol.. This person who has come to me ! He said To me ..I have met someone!.. She is amazing.. she has everything going for her.. I have been dating her for over 3 weeks now.. we have the same sense of humor, we make each other laugh we make each other feel good.. I thought she was perfect.. I said to him ..what do you mean you thought?.. He says ..I have seen her for over three weeks now.. things were going great... then the time came for us to be intimate.. he said he took off his clothes she liked what she saw..! Then it was her turn to undress She removed her bra.. and her boobs dropped to her knees..... at that moment he felt crushed.. and no! not by her boobs..lol.. he said he was disappointed.. he could not get over how droopy her boobs were... He said to me.. every time they went out together she highlighted her breasts in a beautiful bra.. they seemed absolutely perfect... he didn't think there was an issue... At this point.. I said to him no one's perfect I said to him !well that's a little shallow of yourself... He said yes! I think the same thing I feel horrible about it... but I just can't get past the fact that her boobs droop... it really bothers him.!. I can tell that he truly likes this person.. he says He would like to make it work between them.... but no matter how hard he tries he just can't get over.. her droopy boobs... he feels like he was deceived a little bit.. because she always seemed to make her breast seem so firm and perky. Within her bra and clothing. at least from what he could tell..... He doesn't know what to do now.. He says he feels like he is being Shallow.. but he also knows that he wants to be with somebody... that doesn't have this issue..so..is he.?. You know! Shallow Hal..lol.. Oh come out with it already. this story is about you. So did you like them boobs then 
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The friend sounds like royal dlck. I hope he dumps her, she finds the real love of her life who accepts her as is...and she surprises HIM by getting a boob job that's SPECTACULAR Hahahahaha, I was just thinking "I hope he has a royal dick", cos you know, maybe she's disappointed in that department about him ... |
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Money you spend on someone you love and their happiness is never wasted. Especially if you reap rewards from it Yeah, easy to say that, 2Kids... But think about how you'd feel if the new man in your life would let you know that your breasts aren't good enough for him, and are a major turnoff for him. Tells you your breasts are reason to want to end the relationship even. Unless you get surgery to have some balloons put in 'em, just so he gets turned on by you. How would you feel? Breasts are major part of a woman's femininity. Nice if the guy you have growing feelings for rejects you that way. |
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Edited by
SparklingCrystal 💖💎
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Fri 05/20/16 03:18 AM
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What constitutes being shallow..? I ask because I know someone.. They have come to me with a particular problem.. that they are having ...a inner struggle... Here's the dealio..lol.. This person who has come to me ! He said To me ..I have met someone!.. She is amazing.. she has everything going for her.. I have been dating her for over 3 weeks now.. we have the same sense of humor, we make each other laugh we make each other feel good.. I thought she was perfect.. I said to him ..what do you mean you thought?.. He says ..I have seen her for over three weeks now.. things were going great... then the time came for us to be intimate.. he said he took off his clothes she liked what she saw..! Then it was her turn to undress She removed her bra.. and her boobs dropped to her knees..... at that moment he felt crushed.. and no! not by her boobs..lol.. he said he was disappointed.. he could not get over how droopy her boobs were... He said to me.. every time they went out together she highlighted her breasts in a beautiful bra.. they seemed absolutely perfect... he didn't think there was an issue... At this point.. I said to him no one's perfect I said to him !well that's a little shallow of yourself... He said yes! I think the same thing I feel horrible about it... but I just can't get past the fact that her boobs droop... it really bothers him.!. I can tell that he truly likes this person.. he says He would like to make it work between them.... but no matter how hard he tries he just can't get over.. her droopy boobs... he feels like he was deceived a little bit.. because she always seemed to make her breast seem so firm and perky. Within her bra and clothing. at least from what he could tell..... He doesn't know what to do now.. He says he feels like he is being Shallow.. but he also knows that he wants to be with somebody... that doesn't have this issue..so..is he.?. You know! Shallow Hal..lol.. Oh come out with it already. this story is about you. So did you like them boobs then Of course it is about him. We all know that! And he's such a hypocrite you know, cos I remember him saying in the thread about @$$ vs boobs that he prefers a firm @$$ over perky boobs. He literally said "you can make boobs look good with a bra, so not a big deal if they're saggy. But an perky @$$ ... you got it or you don't! So he said he didn't really care about sagged boobs, yet now he wants to end something promising over sagged boobs. And then they say women are fickle creatures?  . . . |
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