What criteria are Oscar nominations based upon? It is challenging to make a case against racial favoritism at the Oscars for 2 reasons.

1. What is the criteria used to guage if ANY movie is eligible for nominations irregardless of which race produced the work. Wouldn't that be the only reference ANY race can use to determine if they have been cheated out of a nomination or not?

2. How can we know if minority movies are being rejected any more than OTHER white movies are being rejected if we dont know how many white movies were ALSO rejected alongside the rejected black movies ?

Until clear answers are provided for the 2 issues raised above, I dont know what evidence the black community has to stand on. Maybe you can clarify that for me Ms Harmony as I admit to being ignorant about the internal workings of the Oscars.

As for some of the other comments that were made, I am SICK TO DEATH of people conveniently citing any specific incident in an attempt to nullify truth that is inconvenient to them.

While I don't have enough evidence to support the black boycott of the oscars , I am disappointed in people who use this isolated incident to nullify the blatant truth that racism exists today. Citing cases that don't fall under the umbrella of racism does NOT eradicate the truth of racism's existence in the world. Similarly, I am just as disappointed in minorities who use the reality of racism as an excuse to receive or condone special favours . And that is ONE reason why this issue of racism still thrives today. The minorities and whites keep passing the buck and both REFUSE to accept accountability for wrong actions committed by the group they belong to.

Given the liberal bent of Hollywood I would think most there would be perfectly happy with the easiest solution. Every year, once the winners are determined, then award some additional 5-10 "diversity" oscars to ensure that the proportion of oscars awarded to each racial group matches the makeup in the US. So, for example, let's say you need 1.5 African Americans to even up the stats - you give Will Smith and Halle Berry diversity oscars

They still get to put "Academy award winning actor" before or after their name in the future. And who ever remembers exactly which movie somebody won for anyway?

Gee, who knew that all of those liberal Democrats in Hollywood were racists?

the cleverness of racism is its subtleness,,,,but history does present tendencies and trends, and American history of segregating blacks is far too long not to consider or aknowledge


if I have 10000 women and 10000 men apply for a job,, and I only hire women,,, I don't have to prove at all that I didn't reject ANY women,,, just that I didn't accept any men


for a case to be made

poor blacks, just picked upon by everyone... you're right, it's all just a big conspiracy to keep black people down...

never take a reading comprehension test,,

I appreciate that analogy so lets apply it to the issue at hand. How many many minority movies were created this year vs the number of white movies created. Was it a 50/50 ratio like the scenario you just described?

no, of course not,, few things are 50/50 , that just makes the analogy easier to grasp


point was, if I am only considering people from one pool , that doesn't mean that I accept all people from that pool of participants

but not accepting all people from that pool, does not exclude in any way that I have accepted NONE from the second pool of participants

Interesting suggestion lol. Let's fuse meritocracy in the Oscars with the principle of affirmative action and stand back and watch the magic happen I am laughing to bring levity to the situation but I have strong views on this . All forms of evaluation require a rubric /criteria for judging, and the fairness of rubrics / meritocracy, is rooted in standardisation of rules which are transparent to all participants. When we acquire a job, isn't there usually a standardised criteria against which our performance is judged ? Isn't adhering to this criteria the basis for ensuring that all performances are judged fairly? .. So what is so hard about making this rubric for the Oscars transparent? How do you know if there have been a breach of standards when NOBODY can itemise what the standards are?

....And my point is , how can any claim stand up in a court of law or even in the court of public opinion without BALANCED EMPIRICAL EVIDENCE? I will never support prejudice or victimisation of ANY kind but can we not agree that the best way to support any claim is by presenting compelling evidence based on balanced and unbiased research?

court of law is quite different than court of appearance

the basic of public opinion simplified is
meet my standards or I go elsewhere


when Sylvester stallone is considered a nod for his acting but the lead actor in the same movie , nor any actors in the phenomenally complex and deep Selma, or Idris Elba in beasts with no nation are not

I cant blame folks for deciding they are tuning out


its like when American Idol repeatedly has winners that aren't as talented as those they won agains

I cant blame folks for deciding they are opting out,,

maybe the Oscars will listen to opinion on this or maybe not,, but it seems that they are at least taking steps in having a more diverse voting board,,,

People have a right to act in accordance with their convictions once transacted legally, but I dont believe that the ends always justifies the means. Why didnt Jada and Spike lee stage a boycott on the basis of demanding a standardised and transparent criteria for nominations? Isn't it more compelling to endorse the principle of fairness for ALL groups of people as opposed to minorities only? If the academy adopts an affirmative action approach in reaction to a boycott based on unsubstantiated claims of race exclusion , then dont minorities run the risk of acquiring future nominations on the basis of pity rather than talent?. Did Martin Luther king and Malcolm X engage in this perilous freedom fight for minorities to be patronised ? ... or for them to be empowered through equal channels of meritocracy?

I didn't say anything about her political views. I said she cant act and the only reason she gets acting jobs is because of her husband, which you can clearly see how bad an actor she is in Gotham Season 1, I cringed every time she came on. Also Tales From The Crypt Demon Knight, she was horrible in.

That's probably because there haven't been any Oscar worthy performances.

fairness is an issue for those who are being treated unfairly,, which usually isn't ALL Groups, by definition

minorities, by definition are the group which are easily left out and not represented,, there is no issue of fairness for the majority who are by default represented

but yes, a more transparent standard would be a great response


as far as risks,, minorities risked the 'pity rather than talent' one in just about every race run

from jobs to education,, but time metes out that risk as pity rarely MAINTAINS a job, an education, or the question of talent,,,

like Sylvester Stallone being a hard to understand jock?

lol

I just love how "diverse" those BET awards are.

fairness is an issue for those who are being treated unfairly,, which usually isn't ALL Groups, by definition

minorities, by definition are the group which are easily left out and not represented,, there is no issue of fairness for the majority who are by default represented

but yes, a more transparent standard would be a great response


as far as risks,, minorities risked the 'pity rather than talent' one in just about every race run

from jobs to education,, but time metes out that risk as pity rarely MAINTAINS a job, an education, or the question of talent,,,





I think its all about setting a precedence for generations to follow MsHarmony. I don't always agree with the Shakespearean needle-point philosophy of " All's well that ends well" Even if a young woman is able to prove her talent in the boardroom after sleeping her way to the top, would we want others patterning their journey after her because the final result is noble? Well similarly do we want a generation of talented minorities who are reckless in their accusations of racism if it means they garner the noble result of inclusion? And yes... I do believe that a claim of racism without adequate substantiation is an act of recklessness.

Peggy, you make way too much sense.

Why must you live too far away for me to date you?

Ice Cube, calls this controversy "ridiculous"

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b3LGAgM32_E

I agree.