Topic: Jada Pinkett Smith
msharmony's photo
Sat 01/23/16 10:29 AM

well, that's one possibility, that for two years NOT one out of all the minority actors actresses and directors working in the field did work that was worthy of an award,,,or nomination,
You said it yourself...its a possibility....maybe black actors have sucked the past teo years. You dont get recognition for the color of your skin.

and another is that they didn't even get considered because of implicit racism
Nah....FRICKIN LIBERAL AS HELL HOLLYWOOD isnt gonna do that....Now, if you wanna imply that its a ploy where they came together and hatched this bs for publicity, Id buy that.

BET AWARD for best new artist 2014 was Sam smith
BET AWARD for best group in 2013 was Macklemore

The African American Actors who have won Academy Awards (Oscars)
1. 1939 Hattie McDaniel for Gone With the Wind
Best Supporting Actress
2. 1963 Sidney Poitier for Lilies of the Field
Best Actor
3. 1982 Louis Gossett, Jr. for An Officer and a Gentlemen
Best Supporting Actor
4. 1989 Denzel Washington for
Glory
Best Supporting Actor
5. 1990 Whoopi Goldberg for Ghost
Best Supporting Actress
6. 1996 Cuba Gooding, Jr. for Jerry Maguire
Best Supporting Actor
7. 2001 Denzel Washington for
Training Day
Best Actor
8. 2001 Halle Berry for Monster's Ball
Best Actress
9. 2004 Jamie Foxx for Ray
Best Actor
10. 2004 Morgan Freeman for Million Dollar Baby
Best Supporting Actor
11. 2006 Forest Whitaker for The Last King of Scotland
Best Actor
12. 2006 Jennifer Hudson for
Dreamgirls
Best Supporting Actress
13. 2009 Mo'Nique for Precious
Best Supporting Actress

And nominees:
1948 Ethel Waters for Pinky
1954 Dorothy Dandridge for
Carmen Jones
1959 Juanita Moore for Imitation of Life
1967 Beah Richards for Guess Who's Coming to Dinner
1969 Rupert Crosse for The Reivers
1970 James Earl Jones for The Great White Hope
1972 Paul Winfield for Sounder
1972 Cicely Tyson for Sounder
1972 Diana Ross for Lady Sings the Blues
1974 Diahann Carroll for
Claudine
1981 Howard Rollins for Ragtime
1983 Alfre Woodard for Cross Creek
1984 Adolph Caesar for A Soldier's Story
1985 Oprah Winfrey for The Color Purple
1985 Margaret Avery for The Color Purple
1986 Dexter Gordon for Round Midnight
1992 Jaye Davidson for The Crying Game
1993 Laurence Fishburne for
What's Love Got to Do With It
1993 Angela Bassett for What's Love Got to Do With It
1994 Samuel L. Jackson for
Pulp Fiction
1996 Marianne Jean-Baptiste for
Secrets & Lies
1999 Michael Clarke for The Green Mile
2001 Will Smith for Ali (and 2006 for The Pursuit of Happiness)
2002 Queen Latifah for Chicago
2003 Djimon Hounsou for In America (and 2006 for Blood Diamond)
2004 Don Cheadle for Hotel Rwanda
2004 Sophie Okonedo for Hotel Rwanda
2005 Terrence Howard for
Hustle & Flow
2006 Eddie Murphy for
Dreamgirls
2007 Ruby Dee for American Gangster
2008 Viola Davis for Doubt
2008 Taraji Henson for The Curious Case of Benjamin Button.
Btw, no one really gives two $hits about the BET Awards anyway. TBH, I dont care about the Oscars....but any port in the promote racism storm, right?

as stated before Miss Dash hasn't a clue and her statements were false and absurd,,,
I never mentioned Ms Dash....but since you did, she fine.


that was a lot of cut and paste for nothing really

awards happen EVERY year,,,its been 7 since the last award or nomination,, according to the above list

and yes, miss dash was graced/blessed with beauty,, who knows where she might be if she didn't at least have that,, cause Im not sure what else she does have,,,

no photo
Sat 01/23/16 10:41 AM
that was a lot of cut and paste for nothing
really
Nah...it was worth it...I destroyed every racist point you tried to make.

awards happen EVERY year,,,its been 7 since
the last award or nomination,, according to the
above list
So? Maybe the black actors and directors should get better at playing the Oscar "game"....because, really, thats all it is.
Again, in this age of Social Justice extremism, youre suggesting Hollywood purposefully left off people because theyre black laugh

and yes, miss dash was graced/blessed with
beauty,, who knows where she might be if she
didn't at least have that,, cause Im not sure
what else she does have,,,
Oh I get it, shes an Aunt Tomette that doesnt tow the black company line.....SO predictable and shameful.

Feel free to spin away....your racism is blatant to all but you.

msharmony's photo
Sat 01/23/16 10:46 AM
nothing was destroyed with names and dates that don't refute my point

Im not suggesting whether anything was 'intentional' or not, there is something called 'implicit' which is quite different from 'intentional', though the outcome is the same


I also don't use juvenile terms like tom or tomette, and stated exactly what I meant

Ms Dash, does not appear to have any skills , acting or intellectual that would account for her 'success' in the world,, there are plenty of people like that in all races


but being born 'beautiful' or 'wealthy' can often make up for all other shortcomings,,,

mightymoe's photo
Sat 01/23/16 10:47 AM
here's an idea.. lets just give everyone an Oscar, since the blacks seem to think it's just a participation award, not a deserved award... they can just have them at the doors, so when anyone walks into the place, they just hand them an Oscar... that way, everyone is happy, and will smith can have one on his fireplace mantle to show everyone what a great actor he is...



msharmony's photo
Sat 01/23/16 10:48 AM
Edited by msharmony on Sat 01/23/16 10:50 AM

here's an idea.. lets just give everyone an Oscar, since the blacks seem to think it's just a participation award, not a deserved award... they can just have them at the doors, so when anyone walks into the place, they just hand them an Oscar... that way, everyone is happy, and will smith can have one on his fireplace mantle to show everyone what a great actor he is...






no, lets not

but lets give credit where credit is due, regardless of race,,




mightymoe's photo
Sat 01/23/16 11:04 AM


here's an idea.. lets just give everyone an Oscar, since the blacks seem to think it's just a participation award, not a deserved award... they can just have them at the doors, so when anyone walks into the place, they just hand them an Oscar... that way, everyone is happy, and will smith can have one on his fireplace mantle to show everyone what a great actor he is...






no, lets not

but lets give credit where credit is due, regardless of race,,






opinions are opinions, i didn't see any black actors worthy of an Oscar this year... so screeching racism is going to change that?

msharmony's photo
Sat 01/23/16 11:05 AM



here's an idea.. lets just give everyone an Oscar, since the blacks seem to think it's just a participation award, not a deserved award... they can just have them at the doors, so when anyone walks into the place, they just hand them an Oscar... that way, everyone is happy, and will smith can have one on his fireplace mantle to show everyone what a great actor he is...






no, lets not

but lets give credit where credit is due, regardless of race,,






opinions are opinions, i didn't see any black actors worthy of an Oscar this year... so screeching racism is going to change that?


no, but if you are one of the said black actors, not participating in the awards that don't find your work worthy, just mightdrinker

Conrad_73's photo
Sat 01/23/16 11:06 AM


laugh
Let's have some Social Justice here!pitchfork
laugh

mightymoe's photo
Sat 01/23/16 11:12 AM




here's an idea.. lets just give everyone an Oscar, since the blacks seem to think it's just a participation award, not a deserved award... they can just have them at the doors, so when anyone walks into the place, they just hand them an Oscar... that way, everyone is happy, and will smith can have one on his fireplace mantle to show everyone what a great actor he is...






no, lets not

but lets give credit where credit is due, regardless of race,,






opinions are opinions, i didn't see any black actors worthy of an Oscar this year... so screeching racism is going to change that?


no, but if you are one of the said black actors, not participating in the awards that don't find your work worthy, just mightdrinker


so the blacks screech racism, and they they LET a black in... does that make you/them feel better? wouldn't the award/nomination feel better if their wasn't a spike lee of jada screeching in the background? how do you know if was by merit or the "whites" feeling sorry for blacks and LETTING them have their way? is that equality in any sense?

Conrad_73's photo
Sat 01/23/16 11:21 AM
http://newsninja2012.com/ice-cube-rips-black-oscar-boycott-we-dont-do-movies-for-the-industry-we-do-movies-for-the-fans/

Ice Cube RIPS black Oscar boycott – “We don’t do movies for the industry. We do movies for the fans”

Actor/Rapper Ice Cube joined the Graham Norton Show on Friday and had a really strong opinion about the Black Oscar Boycott of Jada Pinkett Smith, Will Smith, Spike Lee and Quincy Jones. As the producer of “Straight Outta Compton,” he also spoke about his N.W.A biopic’s exclusion from the Academy’s best picture category

Norton asked Cube if was going to attend the Feb. 28 ceremony, he responded, “I never used to go anyway. You can’t boycott something you never went to.”

In the best picture category, Cube said that being upset about the situation was like “crying about not having enough icing on your cake,” when addressing how the Academy failed to recognize his film for best original screenplay.

“We don’t do movies for the industry. We do movies for the fans, for the people,” he said. “If the industry gives you a trophy or not, or pats you on the back or not, it’s nice, but it’s not something you should dwell on.” He added, “We got accolades from all levels. We got so much praise for the movie.”

I love his attitude! He cares about the art – NOT about awards from peers! GOOD! That is EXACTLY how it should be!

Ice Cube has exactly the attitude that all these actors should have. Are you in performance arts for the awards or because you love it? Who decides if a movie is good or not? Art is subjective anyway. There is a bigger issue going on concerning people’s lives in Flint, MI and I have heard neither Will, Jada or Spike mention this AMERICAN tragedy. You want support for acceptance/

You want support for recognition/acknowledgment from an academy that has failed to do so for decades but you as showing NO support for the people that are fans who have supported your movies, etc.

Who should be more outraged?...............

msharmony's photo
Sat 01/23/16 11:25 AM





here's an idea.. lets just give everyone an Oscar, since the blacks seem to think it's just a participation award, not a deserved award... they can just have them at the doors, so when anyone walks into the place, they just hand them an Oscar... that way, everyone is happy, and will smith can have one on his fireplace mantle to show everyone what a great actor he is...






no, lets not

but lets give credit where credit is due, regardless of race,,






opinions are opinions, i didn't see any black actors worthy of an Oscar this year... so screeching racism is going to change that?


no, but if you are one of the said black actors, not participating in the awards that don't find your work worthy, just mightdrinker


so the blacks screech racism, and they they LET a black in... does that make you/them feel better? wouldn't the award/nomination feel better if their wasn't a spike lee of jada screeching in the background? how do you know if was by merit or the "whites" feeling sorry for blacks and LETTING them have their way? is that equality in any sense?


why yes, yes it does

if I don't believe it had to do with MERIT in the first place, and want to be given MERIT,,,even if others must feel pressured to do so,,


msharmony's photo
Sat 01/23/16 11:27 AM

http://newsninja2012.com/ice-cube-rips-black-oscar-boycott-we-dont-do-movies-for-the-industry-we-do-movies-for-the-fans/

Ice Cube RIPS black Oscar boycott – “We don’t do movies for the industry. We do movies for the fans”

Actor/Rapper Ice Cube joined the Graham Norton Show on Friday and had a really strong opinion about the Black Oscar Boycott of Jada Pinkett Smith, Will Smith, Spike Lee and Quincy Jones. As the producer of “Straight Outta Compton,” he also spoke about his N.W.A biopic’s exclusion from the Academy’s best picture category

Norton asked Cube if was going to attend the Feb. 28 ceremony, he responded, “I never used to go anyway. You can’t boycott something you never went to.”

In the best picture category, Cube said that being upset about the situation was like “crying about not having enough icing on your cake,” when addressing how the Academy failed to recognize his film for best original screenplay.

“We don’t do movies for the industry. We do movies for the fans, for the people,” he said. “If the industry gives you a trophy or not, or pats you on the back or not, it’s nice, but it’s not something you should dwell on.” He added, “We got accolades from all levels. We got so much praise for the movie.”

I love his attitude! He cares about the art – NOT about awards from peers! GOOD! That is EXACTLY how it should be!

Ice Cube has exactly the attitude that all these actors should have. Are you in performance arts for the awards or because you love it? Who decides if a movie is good or not? Art is subjective anyway. There is a bigger issue going on concerning people’s lives in Flint, MI and I have heard neither Will, Jada or Spike mention this AMERICAN tragedy. You want support for acceptance/

You want support for recognition/acknowledgment from an academy that has failed to do so for decades but you as showing NO support for the people that are fans who have supported your movies, etc.

Who should be more outraged?...............



who said anything about 'outrage'

the woman simply said she isn't going to attend an event which doesn't aknowledge the work of minorities

you support fans by attending ceremonies directed by the fans

this award is directed by an ACADEMY


no similarity there,,

Conrad_73's photo
Sat 01/23/16 11:31 AM
Awards Calendar

Oscar-Winning Producer Denounces "Spoiled Brats" Crying "Racism"

by Paul Bond
1/22/2016 7:00am PST

"As far as Michael Moore is concerned, he is a socialist always looking to insert his brand of racist hatred. Spike Lee — haven't I heard this from him before?" says 'Schindler's List' producer Gerald Molen.

Gerald Molen, a voting member of the Academy who earned a best picture Oscar for producing Schindler's List, has some very choice words for the "spoiled brats" who are crying racism over the lack of diversity in the nominations this time around.

"There is no racism except for those who create an issue. That is the worst kind. Using such an ugly way of complaining," Molen told The Hollywood Reporter on Thursday.

So far, Spike Lee, Michael Moore, Jada Pinkett Smith and her husband Will Smith have said they will not attend the Oscars because all of the 20 acting nominations went to white actors.

"The idea of a boycott is ridiculous," Molen said. "Are their noses bent out of shape by the award nominations? Of course. That is normal in a town of egos and red-carpet desires. While there were many performances of note, not all my choices for 'best' in the various categories have been realized."

http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/oscar-winning-producer-denounces-spoiled-858207/


msharmony's photo
Sat 01/23/16 11:35 AM
of course the winners and the elite and the 'included' always claim the left out are just being 'crybabies'.. for pointing out their exclusion lol


what else is new,,,

mightymoe's photo
Sat 01/23/16 11:39 AM






here's an idea.. lets just give everyone an Oscar, since the blacks seem to think it's just a participation award, not a deserved award... they can just have them at the doors, so when anyone walks into the place, they just hand them an Oscar... that way, everyone is happy, and will smith can have one on his fireplace mantle to show everyone what a great actor he is...






no, lets not

but lets give credit where credit is due, regardless of race,,






opinions are opinions, i didn't see any black actors worthy of an Oscar this year... so screeching racism is going to change that?


no, but if you are one of the said black actors, not participating in the awards that don't find your work worthy, just mightdrinker


so the blacks screech racism, and they they LET a black in... does that make you/them feel better? wouldn't the award/nomination feel better if their wasn't a spike lee of jada screeching in the background? how do you know if was by merit or the "whites" feeling sorry for blacks and LETTING them have their way? is that equality in any sense?


why yes, yes it does

if I don't believe it had to do with MERIT in the first place, and want to be given MERIT,,,even if others must feel pressured to do so,,


so no blacks are Oscar worthy this year... thanks for clearing that up...

msharmony's photo
Sat 01/23/16 11:49 AM







here's an idea.. lets just give everyone an Oscar, since the blacks seem to think it's just a participation award, not a deserved award... they can just have them at the doors, so when anyone walks into the place, they just hand them an Oscar... that way, everyone is happy, and will smith can have one on his fireplace mantle to show everyone what a great actor he is...






no, lets not

but lets give credit where credit is due, regardless of race,,






opinions are opinions, i didn't see any black actors worthy of an Oscar this year... so screeching racism is going to change that?


no, but if you are one of the said black actors, not participating in the awards that don't find your work worthy, just mightdrinker


so the blacks screech racism, and they they LET a black in... does that make you/them feel better? wouldn't the award/nomination feel better if their wasn't a spike lee of jada screeching in the background? how do you know if was by merit or the "whites" feeling sorry for blacks and LETTING them have their way? is that equality in any sense?


why yes, yes it does

if I don't believe it had to do with MERIT in the first place, and want to be given MERIT,,,even if others must feel pressured to do so,,


so no blacks are Oscar worthy this year... thanks for clearing that up...



lol

actually worthy blacks were not included,, but its the easier and lazier conclusion that nothing is awry and nooone but white performers did anything of merit,,,


nothing surprising there,,,

mightymoe's photo
Sat 01/23/16 11:52 AM








here's an idea.. lets just give everyone an Oscar, since the blacks seem to think it's just a participation award, not a deserved award... they can just have them at the doors, so when anyone walks into the place, they just hand them an Oscar... that way, everyone is happy, and will smith can have one on his fireplace mantle to show everyone what a great actor he is...






no, lets not

but lets give credit where credit is due, regardless of race,,






opinions are opinions, i didn't see any black actors worthy of an Oscar this year... so screeching racism is going to change that?


no, but if you are one of the said black actors, not participating in the awards that don't find your work worthy, just mightdrinker


so the blacks screech racism, and they they LET a black in... does that make you/them feel better? wouldn't the award/nomination feel better if their wasn't a spike lee of jada screeching in the background? how do you know if was by merit or the "whites" feeling sorry for blacks and LETTING them have their way? is that equality in any sense?


why yes, yes it does

if I don't believe it had to do with MERIT in the first place, and want to be given MERIT,,,even if others must feel pressured to do so,,


so no blacks are Oscar worthy this year... thanks for clearing that up...



lol

actually worthy blacks were not included,, but its the easier and lazier conclusion that nothing is awry and nooone but white performers did anything of merit,,,


nothing surprising there,,,


so by those standards, the movie "Scouts Guide to the Zombie Apocalypse" and all it's actors should win everything, since I think it should... opinions are opinions, and ours don't count here...

msharmony's photo
Sat 01/23/16 11:54 AM









here's an idea.. lets just give everyone an Oscar, since the blacks seem to think it's just a participation award, not a deserved award... they can just have them at the doors, so when anyone walks into the place, they just hand them an Oscar... that way, everyone is happy, and will smith can have one on his fireplace mantle to show everyone what a great actor he is...






no, lets not

but lets give credit where credit is due, regardless of race,,






opinions are opinions, i didn't see any black actors worthy of an Oscar this year... so screeching racism is going to change that?


no, but if you are one of the said black actors, not participating in the awards that don't find your work worthy, just mightdrinker


so the blacks screech racism, and they they LET a black in... does that make you/them feel better? wouldn't the award/nomination feel better if their wasn't a spike lee of jada screeching in the background? how do you know if was by merit or the "whites" feeling sorry for blacks and LETTING them have their way? is that equality in any sense?


why yes, yes it does

if I don't believe it had to do with MERIT in the first place, and want to be given MERIT,,,even if others must feel pressured to do so,,


so no blacks are Oscar worthy this year... thanks for clearing that up...



lol

actually worthy blacks were not included,, but its the easier and lazier conclusion that nothing is awry and nooone but white performers did anything of merit,,,


nothing surprising there,,,


so by those standards, the movie "Scouts Guide to the Zombie Apocalypse" and all it's actors should win everything, since I think it should... opinions are opinions, and ours don't count here...


wrong analogy, this isn't about one persons opinion about A movie, or AN actor

this is about thousands opinions of thousands of performances,,,



but nice try,,

no photo
Sat 01/23/16 11:59 AM
actually worthy blacks were not included,, but
its the easier and lazier conclusion that nothing
is awry and nooone but white performers did
anything of merit,,,
That works both ways....the easier and lazier conclusion is that it was racism....Blaming something or someone else for ones own shortcomings....

msharmony's photo
Sat 01/23/16 12:01 PM

actually worthy blacks were not included,, but
its the easier and lazier conclusion that nothing
is awry and nooone but white performers did
anything of merit,,,
That works both ways....the easier and lazier conclusion is that it was racism....Blaming something or someone else for ones own shortcomings....


it doesn't need to be labeled one way or another

it is what it is,, no one but whites were deemed worthy of an award