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Topic: Illegal Immigration, Big Bucks in it!
DTHRomeo's photo
Fri 10/26/07 09:07 PM
Y nosotros tambien
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O a nosotros tampoco???

Upgrade your transator bro drinker

DTHRomeo's photo
Fri 10/26/07 09:08 PM
translator*

ooppss ... bigsmile

Fanta46's photo
Fri 10/26/07 09:08 PM
All over the countrydrinker drinker

There is a thing Miquel called the States rights, and another thing called the silent majority.

Well my friend, the States facing huge financial losses due to illegal immigration are claiming their rights, and the silent majority are pushing their weight, esp on this issue!

Americans are generous, but when we begin to lose like we are to illegal immigration, (taxes, jobs, crime. etc.) we will shout and push back!

You keep listening to the press, on this issue they have their own agenda and do not speak the truth!drinker drinker

TheLonelyWalker's photo
Fri 10/26/07 09:15 PM
well Mr. fanta, time is wiser.
u said something interesting North Americans are generous, that is the reason why I love this country.
and u said something more interesting yet, I listen to the press.
but i would say this: the retarded president and all his party are blaming illegals for all the social problems
but if u compare the cost of the illegals with the cost of the war, u'll see what is costing more
so come on now, and give me a break, don't tell me that u won't get retirement due to illegals when all ur money is being wasted in Iraq.

reba0201's photo
Fri 10/26/07 09:20 PM
yep and wait until there is no health care or social security because he spent that on the war too.

Spur277's photo
Fri 10/26/07 10:12 PM
So Mr Walker,
You condone Illegal activities,would harbor and transport Illegal Immigrants? You will jeopardize your all you have worked for for your crusade?

TheLonelyWalker's photo
Fri 10/26/07 10:13 PM
is that right?

TheLonelyWalker's photo
Fri 10/26/07 10:20 PM
just for the sake of the argument, and to give u some attention.
my only claim will be against cities and states which have no jurisdiction whatsoever infederal issues.
just for ur general culture, "preemtion doctrine" when state and federal law are in conflict, always and always federal law will preempt (just is case preempt means overrule)
What is the rationale of my argument:
When cities and states are enacting ordinances and statutes with regard immigrants they are entering federal terrain, and ergo there is a conflict between the two laws. That it's also backed up by the constitution in the Supremacy Clause.
Case in point your honor.

Veritas vos liberabit

reba0201's photo
Fri 10/26/07 10:20 PM
well i married an illegal,so shall i walk to the gallows now?

Spur277's photo
Fri 10/26/07 10:28 PM
That was just a question.
Would you jeopardize all you have put into becoming a citizen, by breaking the law yourself? IE, Harboring, hiding, transporting Illegal Immigrants.
Fear vs True convictions.
How deep are your convictions?

TheLonelyWalker's photo
Fri 10/26/07 10:33 PM
look Sir don't try to play mental games with me
ofcourse i won't do that, i would do that i would be very retarded.
but the common law construed as it is give me several other channels, as the one that i just pointed out.
that is the beauty of common law, and the US judicial system even a presidential order can be overruled, just remember FDR in the 40's when he wanted to close the steel factories. His order was overruled by the Supreme Court.
Ergo anything it's the law, if it's challenged in a federal court, and this court rules.

no photo
Fri 10/26/07 10:46 PM
TheLonelyWalker,

I need to say two things, but I will email one of them to you.

George Bush has been VERY light on illegal immigration, he has even support amnesty bills. If you didn't know that, then you should educate yourself. This is one of the things that I disagree with Bush most strongly on, because our borders should be closed. Not just to illegals from the south, but from every direction. If a farm worker can make it into the US, then a terrorist can do the same thing. If you truely love this country, then you would support immigration reform and not amnesty, which is rewarding criminals.

Spur277's photo
Fri 10/26/07 10:48 PM
Then, the only way you've actually helped your homeboys is with English lessons and a lot of talk.
What's the risk in that?
When I go back to visit my in-laws in Mexico this Thanksgiving, I will again risk prison by teaching them the process of organizing and becoming unionized.
My Spanish ain't that great so, they provide an interpretor. When we meet, it has to be in secret and there is always a chance of informants.
You risk nothing and probably would turn and walk away if one of your homeboys were being taken down.

reba0201's photo
Fri 10/26/07 10:52 PM
spur why would you think that he would walk away and leave his homeboys..how is what he is trying to do here any different than what you are trying to do in mexico? aren't there risks and legallitys involved on both sides?

TheLonelyWalker's photo
Fri 10/26/07 10:56 PM
I apologize for using the word "retarded," it's not a proper term. Thank you my brother for making me see my error.
And for you Sir, I have already risked my arse for my homeboys.
One day when i didn't have my truck yet, I was in a bus stop with a group of mexicans (all illegals), and some immigration officers stopped there trying to threaten us, as I was the only one who spoke english is face them, and I told them that first, they did not have probable cause to do such a thing, and if any of them touched any of those kids i will fail a claim for abuse of police power.
And I also told them that by law the only place, time , and manner when they could do such a thing is in a work place where they suspected there were illegals working.
They apologize and left.

TheLonelyWalker's photo
Fri 10/26/07 10:57 PM
*file a claim

Spur277's photo
Fri 10/26/07 11:01 PM
It's just the feel I get. Mr Walker, I don't believe, would actively take a physical stand if someone he knew was detained in his presence. I think, he would think only of his own well being and safety and abandon his countryman.
You see, I'm an older man, I don't have the fear of losing my comfort or security.
A young man will think of self-preservation first and will consider all he could lose.

TheLonelyWalker's photo
Fri 10/26/07 11:03 PM
then again sir, u r assuming.
and urs it's a rebuttable presumption

TheLonelyWalker's photo
Fri 10/26/07 11:03 PM
read a couple of post above sir

no photo
Fri 10/26/07 11:05 PM
You see, I'm an older man, I don't have the fear of losing my comfort or security.
A young man will think of self-preservation first and will consider all he could lose.
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For somebody who doesn't "have the fear of losing my comfort or security" you are awefully proud of the risks you take. While I disagree with TLW on immagration, I would have to say that he showed bravery for standing up to immigration officers. I think you are very proud of the illegal activities you are doing and have decided to pick on TLW for awhile, because of a "feel" you get.

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