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So far I only have 3 juices coconut cream pie a double double and a root beer...all.. very good I have 2 mini tanks.. one of which the glass tank is broken on..lol.. so I'm going to pick up a new glass tank unless they have the metal accessory tank.. and two or three new flavor juices . I'm even thinking of getting into the e-cigarette business.. the market .. isn't saturated .. the markup on the product doesn't seem very high.. but with the cost of cigarettes going up every day more and more smokers are going to be looking for an alternative...so demand should grow .. and un like cigarettes where you have many brands you need to carry.. you only really need to carry three or four different brands of e-cigarettes and accessories ..keeping overhead low... And then there is the matter of the juices themselves I don't believe you need a license to sell the product Noooo don't dig up the silver patio to invest in cigs! Where's this Moon Goddess got to dance during full moon nights when you do?! |
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Protect the glass yes. You can also get a silicone skin for the iStick but I'm telling you now if that thing takes a hard fall its done for. For now at the resistance and wattage you're using it at it'll do just fine.
Coils..., I wouldn't push the nautilus beyond 4 watts. It's possible to go higher but honestly it wears the coils out too fast. Darker liquids clog up coils faster than lighter colored ones. You'll see and taste this for yourself I'm sure. |
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The issue is with the flavourings and aerosol .. Some suggestion of carcinogenic activity .. But no conclusive testing evidence from long term use . http:/apps.who.int/gb/fctc/PDF/cop6/FCTC_COP6_10-en.pdf[/ url] I guess it comes down to the chemicals and the effect on lung tissue . Without a doubt cigarette smoking is harmful .. I would check exactly what is in the electronic devices before embarking on that as a healthy alternative  Yeah, that's EXACTLY why I stopped using my E-cig... Read some stuff that it is FIFTEEN TIMES WORSE than a normal cig!!! That scared the crap out of me. If you use it temporarily to ween yourself off of tobacco, then quit entirely, I can see the benefits. But to swap tobacco for the E-cig permanently ... not too sure about that either. They are also dangerous. There have been numerous instances of them exploding(because of the battery) one person almost died on the spot. They really aren't healthier at all. There's a few conditions that have to be met for this to happen. 1. Big wires (very low resistance) 2. Very close to the metal top cap on the RDA 3. The wire itself has to move during operation 4. Metal battery body (mod) with little or no venting 5. A person dumb enough to hold the button long enough with 1-4 (most vapers couldn't tolerate the heat of the vapor or the battery and mod) 6. 1-5 + the wire makes contact with the metal top cap but is thick enough not to melt when the wires cause a short circuit. 7. 1-6 + the protective wrapper on the battery itself melts causing an internal short circuit resulting in full venting of the expanding gasses that cannot be stopped. 8. 1-7 + the idiot has to still be holding it up next to his face. Ohms law and battery safety are HEAVILY stressed. Fortunately many new devices have short circuit, reverse polarity, battery enclosure temperature protection, and wire temperature control on top of not having metal exposed to the battery sled. James Lauria, a 23-year-old from Destin, Florida, left work on July 29 to smoke an e-cigarette when the e-cig exploded inside of his mouth, according to FOX 5. "Next thing I know, it exploded and I was on my way to a hospital in an ambulance," Lauria said. "That is the last thing I remember." Lauria was a frequent e-cigarette smoker leading up to the accident and had never experienced anything like this before. The explosion burned his cornea and hand, and fractured his neck and his finger. It also blew a hole through his palate while flames simultaneously "went down and he got first-degree burns on his chest and up on his face. It forced his front tooth up into his gum and chipped the other one and damaged a few other lower teeth," Lauria's father told FOX. The injuries were so severe that he was airlifted to the University of Alabama's Burn Unit, where he spent a week in the ICU in a coma. More than six weeks after the explosion, Lauria is still on a liquid diet and will soon be fitted for a prosthetic to close the hole that remains on the roof of his mouth. He is living at home with his parents until he is strong enough to be on his own. According to FEMA, more than 25 separate incidents of e-cigarette explosions and fires were reported in the U.S. between 2009 and 2014. http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3236201/James-Lauria-23-severely-injured-e-cigarette-blows-face.html |
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A few questions...
What does FEMA have to do with ecigs? 0 What type of battery was he using? Was the battery in good condition or was the wrap scratched gouged etc. What mod? Did he modify the mod himself or was it in normal unmodified condition? What RDA, RTA, RDTA tank or subtank was he using? Was that modified or worn out (metal fatigue)? What resistance build, was he using the right kind of wire? Was the resistance of the build below the recommendations for vaping safely? A short circuit on an Li-Mn battery (if he was using the correct type of battery) causes immense heat vaporizing any liquid extremely fast giving off a very bad taste and smell. Like I said before most builds will just melt the wire stopping the short. I've done this by accident and the taste/smell is unmistakable. If it doesn't burn through the wire the taste/smell is still there. Nearly all tube type metal mods have vent holes. If the battery hard shorts inside that tube it's still going to get VERY hot, and emit a smell that's also unmistakable. They don't just explode. It's not like dropping a wrench across the poles on a car battery. The wires at their largest COULD only be 3mm in diameter. A wrench big enough to reach both poles on a car battery is about 10mm and about 9-14" long. For a better comparison, many laptop battery packs have thesekkinds of batteries in series or parallel. Laptops get HOT, especially HOT if you block the inlet or outlets for the cooling fan. Get close and you can smell the batteries cooking, then they don't hold their charge as long. A few gateway laptops have exploded and the users knew they were HOT first. If he had a box type mod and was stacking batteries or running series parallel (NOT RECOMMENDED) it would have gotten hot enough to melt the wires inside the box. The point is there is extreme discomfort leading up to a catastrophic failure of a battery(ies). Otherwise cellphones tablets portable gaming (PSP's) and laptops would be blowing up all over the place. They all use Li-Mn LiPo batteries. The reason they call it a "hard short(circuit)" is because it's hard to do so without getting zapped or a filament fuse or wire burns through stopping the short. Unless of course you live in Hegalia. |
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Common sense tells you anything artificial inhaled into the lungs with vapor has to be bad for the lungs sooner or later. Especially if you are trying to clean it which right there tells you that you are introducing micro particles of something you probably shouldn't into a VITAL ORGAN because how are you really going to get it clean "enough"? Common mold alone in a damp vapor is enough to screw your health.
Are the people who are making billions on a lower cost addictive carrier of nicotine which we already know is bad for you going to really tell you the truth? I doubt that. Tobacco is and expensive ground toxic crop that has serious competition for field space so why would they not be looking for a tobacco free cigarette? That does not even take into account the artificial flavor and sugars that vaping liquids do to "hook" people through the taste triggers to the brain. So you now have TWO essential sensory fields being involved in a new addiction. Mess those up your quality of life sucks even if you don't kill your lungs. Last but not least risk is relative. If you point a six gun at your head and blast away does it matter if you only have one to three bullets in the chamber? You are still dead. Something just bugs me that they are marketing it to children. If something is so great why do you have to sell it to kids? |
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Edited by
no1phD
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Tue 11/10/15 10:25 PM
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Protect the glass yes. You can also get a silicone skin for the iStick but I'm telling you now if that thing takes a hard fall its done for. For now at the resistance and wattage you're using it at it'll do just fine. Coils..., I wouldn't push the nautilus beyond 4 watts. It's possible to go higher but honestly it wears the coils out too fast. Darker liquids clog up coils faster than lighter colored ones. You'll see and taste this for yourself I'm sure. |
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[ Excuse my interjection, but isn't the use of the e-cigarette for a reduction in smoking? elsewise your just substituting one habit for another (IMHO) Using the e-cig, along with usual methods of substitutions (gum, a carrot, stick of celery, willpower), you can, hopefully, cut back in all the cherry, rootbeer, etc. so you're not puffing all day long..I do hope you can stop the nasty habit..you are a creative guy, when the urge strikes, do something else.. |
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[ Excuse my interjection, but isn't the use of the e-cigarette for a reduction in smoking? elsewise your just substituting one habit for another (IMHO) Using the e-cig, along with usual methods of substitutions (gum, a carrot, stick of celery, willpower), you can, hopefully, cut back in all the cherry, rootbeer, etc. so you're not puffing all day long..I do hope you can stop the nasty habit..you are a creative guy, when the urge strikes, do something else.. .. first off... do you have any suggestions as far as what else I can do...hmmmm. ... .. and the amount nicotine is far less.. I'm also not ingesting the smoke the tar all the chemical. Cancer causing chemicals that are in cigarettes.... Nicotine is just the chemical that keeps you smoking...... once I'm done with cigarettes.. strictly on e cigarettes... then you go from a nicotine juice to a non nicotine juice..... And continue to enjoy vaping... |
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Edited by
SparklingCrystal 💖💎
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Wed 11/11/15 09:53 AM
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Excuse my interjection, but isn't the use of the e-cigarette for a reduction in smoking? elsewise your just substituting one habit for another (IMHO) Using the e-cig, along with usual methods of substitutions (gum, a carrot, stick of celery, willpower), you can, hopefully, cut back in all the cherry, rootbeer, etc. so you're not puffing all day long..I do hope you can stop the nasty habit..you are a creative guy, when the urge strikes, do something else.. .. and the amount nicotine is far less.. I'm also not ingesting the smoke the tar all the chemical. Cancer causing chemicals that are in cigarettes.... Nicotine is just the chemical that keeps you smoking...... once I'm done with cigarettes.. strictly on e cigarettes... then you go from a nicotine juice to a non nicotine juice..... And continue to enjoy vaping... Agree with this. Except that I don't think it's smart to keep vaping a lot, as there are chemicals in the liquid just the same. But if you only use it occasionally, when you really need to... I gotta admit that the stories on exploding E-cigs don't make me feel very comfortable :/ And I don't get your stories on Watts??? You can lower what exactly??? I just got a E-cig, there's no knobs and dials or anything. So which Watts are you talking about? |
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Hey no1. Wondering how the no smoking is going???
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I like it it's awesome I have a flavor called snickers and it tastes like snickers Lol I got a 30 wat and 100 wat make sure you watch your coils too you gota have a .5 coil to fully run the max wattage
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Just had to bring this back up...
DO NOT CARRY YOUR E-CIG IN YOUR PANTS POCKET OR SHIRT POCKET!!! Here is the deal a friend of a friend of mine. He had his e-cig in his pants pocket it blew up and caught his pants on fire... He is in the Dallas Burn Center burned his leg from his upper thigh down to his knee... I did see the picture of his leg it burned him so bad his leg was black with what looked like a hole where the e-cig was. The battery blew up... This is for real.... I do know the people that know him... This happen about a week ago.... They say do not carry them in your pockets nor for women to carry them in their purse... So if you choose to use this method which they are finding out the flavor stuff you are using in them will in fact damage your lungs in the long run... And may do more damage then smoking.. These things are not regulated and does not go through the FDA... Use them at your own risk~~~ |
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