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Topic: Why Religion and Science can't come to terms...
Conrad_73 Joined Sat 09/29/07 Posts: 22488	Thu 09/10/15 10:52 AM
The troubling thing about the assumption science is going to answer everything that it doesn't leave room for miracles. Yes, miracles aren't logical... ! That's why they're miracles. ************************************************************************************************************************************ Anybody figured-out why there's a 515 foot long petrified boat 6300 feet above sea-level yet in the Ararat Mountains ? Problem is,there ain't!

Rizun Joined Fri 08/21/15 Posts: 124	Thu 09/10/15 11:34 AM
I don't really see how you can compare the two to begin with. And what do you mean by come to terms... what??? One writes science fiction/fantasy of a world made in 7 days by some almighty wadyamacallit god thingy oh and the world is around 4000 years old or so. The other one presents evidence which is carefully looked at from various angles and proves it by careful study which in the end can be dis proven as many times as it needs to. It's kind of like xfiles Religion is Mulder, science is Scully. The truth is out there, but this isn't x-files and you're a hairless ape.

SheikOfLaBroquerie Joined Thu 01/31/13 Posts: 1973	Fri 09/11/15 09:23 AM
Reductionism is a term that is usually used as a derogatory term. **************************************** Kind of like when Professor Johnny Larue explains why water boils... "Because It's Hot !"

ardalaan Joined Fri 09/04/15 Posts: 8	Sat 09/19/15 09:24 PM
no sir. monothism in his actual condition is never reached to the west till now. you all of westren people including your scinetists and scholars are thinkg that the form of islamic monothism is same thing that found in the bible. and when the scince denied that kind of monothism you ignore the islamic monothism as well as. westren people are actual never knows the concepts of monothism in islam and also never imagenies the effects of monothism

ais69 Joined Thu 09/10/15 Posts: 1283	Sat 09/19/15 09:49 PM
Erm, Islam & science are like peas in a pod

1onlyaname Joined Sun 08/09/15 Posts: 1041	Sat 09/19/15 09:54 PM
the Book of Job in old testament Job uses amazing knowledge to explain his belief.

mightymoe Joined Sun 11/19/06 Posts: 37362	Sat 09/19/15 10:11 PM
Erm, Islam & science are like peas in a pod the Baghdad battery... muslims never hindered science like the Christians did...

ais69 Joined Thu 09/10/15 Posts: 1283	Sat 09/19/15 10:13 PM
Erm, Islam & science are like peas in a pod the Baghdad battery... muslims never hindered science like the Christians did... Sry, didn't get that Moe. Can u explain?

mightymoe Joined Sun 11/19/06 Posts: 37362	Sat 09/19/15 10:19 PM
Erm, Islam & science are like peas in a pod the Baghdad battery... muslims never hindered science like the Christians did... Sry, didn't get that Moe. Can u explain? they found some artifacts in baghdad, dated 250bc, and when put together with an acidic fluid, such as lemmon juice, it makes an electrical currant... https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Baghdad_Battery early Christians "scientists" were controlled by the church, and if they said anything the church didn't agree with, they were usually killed or jailed as heretics...

1onlyaname Joined Sun 08/09/15 Posts: 1041	Sun 09/20/15 07:25 AM
Sorry again don't mean demean or antyhing, but weather it be scientific theory or just a theory, it's just an educated guess. Because if it were truly a "fact" it wouldn't be either "theories", it would be a scientific fact. That's the difference between theory and fact, one is absolute without a doubt, the other is "guessing" at points... or in other hands stating things along the lines of "assumptions" it will continue to be true, but again has no absolute fact behind it. Uh, no. A scientific theory explains how something works. It isn't a guess because it has been tested for accuracy. Sadly, scientific laymen have their own definition of "theory" that is different from the definition used by scientists. hahaha have you read science papers on evolution. it may have it could have there was a puddle of chemicals on the ground lightening must have struck the puddle. bingo we got life!! lol. a bear turned into a cow a cow turned into a whale. they were giving me its a scientific "theory" for 55 years everything they taught me in school has been debunked. 3rd grade they tried to teach me I was a fish. lol. poster of fish eggs and human eggs. see we are the same. LOL. show me one paper on evolution that doesn't say "it could have" the human eye evolved from a bump on a skin that became light sensitive. OK where did the skin come from. saying evolution is a fact causes me to laugh at you. OK prove it don't tell me It could have happened this way. a bear turned into a cow a cow turned into a whale. I'm a spiritual man I don't believe in science miracles and you don't have to believe in my spiritual miracles because neither of us can Prove It. so where is this "missing link" I've heard about all my life???

Conrad_73 Joined Sat 09/29/07 Posts: 22488	Sun 09/20/15 08:35 AM
Sorry again don't mean demean or antyhing, but weather it be scientific theory or just a theory, it's just an educated guess. Because if it were truly a "fact" it wouldn't be either "theories", it would be a scientific fact. That's the difference between theory and fact, one is absolute without a doubt, the other is "guessing" at points... or in other hands stating things along the lines of "assumptions" it will continue to be true, but again has no absolute fact behind it. Uh, no. A scientific theory explains how something works. It isn't a guess because it has been tested for accuracy. Sadly, scientific laymen have their own definition of "theory" that is different from the definition used by scientists. hahaha have you read science papers on evolution. it may have it could have there was a puddle of chemicals on the ground lightening must have struck the puddle. bingo we got life!! lol. a bear turned into a cow a cow turned into a whale. they were giving me its a scientific "theory" for 55 years everything they taught me in school has been debunked. 3rd grade they tried to teach me I was a fish. lol. poster of fish eggs and human eggs. see we are the same. LOL. show me one paper on evolution that doesn't say "it could have" the human eye evolved from a bump on a skin that became light sensitive. OK where did the skin come from. saying evolution is a fact causes me to laugh at you. OK prove it don't tell me It could have happened this way. a bear turned into a cow a cow turned into a whale. I'm a spiritual man I don't believe in science miracles and you don't have to believe in my spiritual miracles because neither of us can Prove It. so where is this "missing link" I've heard about all my life??? me thinks you need to have another read.seems you got the whole Thing Bassackward!

1onlyaname Joined Sun 08/09/15 Posts: 1041	Sun 09/20/15 10:00 AM
Sorry again don't mean demean or antyhing, but weather it be scientific theory or just a theory, it's just an educated guess. Because if it were truly a "fact" it wouldn't be either "theories", it would be a scientific fact. That's the difference between theory and fact, one is absolute without a doubt, the other is "guessing" at points... or in other hands stating things along the lines of "assumptions" it will continue to be true, but again has no absolute fact behind it. Uh, no. A scientific theory explains how something works. It isn't a guess because it has been tested for accuracy. Sadly, scientific laymen have their own definition of "theory" that is different from the definition used by scientists. hahaha have you read science papers on evolution. it may have it could have there was a puddle of chemicals on the ground lightening must have struck the puddle. bingo we got life!! lol. a bear turned into a cow a cow turned into a whale. they were giving me its a scientific "theory" for 55 years everything they taught me in school has been debunked. 3rd grade they tried to teach me I was a fish. lol. poster of fish eggs and human eggs. see we are the same. LOL. show me one paper on evolution that doesn't say "it could have" the human eye evolved from a bump on a skin that became light sensitive. OK where did the skin come from. saying evolution is a fact causes me to laugh at you. OK prove it don't tell me It could have happened this way. a bear turned into a cow a cow turned into a whale. I'm a spiritual man I don't believe in science miracles and you don't have to believe in my spiritual miracles because neither of us can Prove It. so where is this "missing link" I've heard about all my life??? me thinks you need to have another read.seems you got the whole Thing Bassackward! what the whale turns into cow the cow turns into a bear??? its a hilarious scientific miracle lol. there's not enough billions of years for that to happen. how many mutations needs to happen for that

metalwing Joined Fri 11/14/08 Posts: 26218	Sun 09/20/15 11:41 AM
Actually the creature that turned into a whale was more like a wolf that liked to eat fish. Cows eat grass.

mightymoe Joined Sun 11/19/06 Posts: 37362	Sun 09/20/15 11:44 AM
Sorry again don't mean demean or antyhing, but weather it be scientific theory or just a theory, it's just an educated guess. Because if it were truly a "fact" it wouldn't be either "theories", it would be a scientific fact. That's the difference between theory and fact, one is absolute without a doubt, the other is "guessing" at points... or in other hands stating things along the lines of "assumptions" it will continue to be true, but again has no absolute fact behind it. Uh, no. A scientific theory explains how something works. It isn't a guess because it has been tested for accuracy. Sadly, scientific laymen have their own definition of "theory" that is different from the definition used by scientists. hahaha have you read science papers on evolution. it may have it could have there was a puddle of chemicals on the ground lightening must have struck the puddle. bingo we got life!! lol. a bear turned into a cow a cow turned into a whale. they were giving me its a scientific "theory" for 55 years everything they taught me in school has been debunked. 3rd grade they tried to teach me I was a fish. lol. poster of fish eggs and human eggs. see we are the same. LOL. show me one paper on evolution that doesn't say "it could have" the human eye evolved from a bump on a skin that became light sensitive. OK where did the skin come from. saying evolution is a fact causes me to laugh at you. OK prove it don't tell me It could have happened this way. a bear turned into a cow a cow turned into a whale. I'm a spiritual man I don't believe in science miracles and you don't have to believe in my spiritual miracles because neither of us can Prove It. so where is this "missing link" I've heard about all my life??? me thinks you need to have another read.seems you got the whole Thing Bassackward! what the whale turns into cow the cow turns into a bear??? its a hilarious scientific miracle lol. there's not enough billions of years for that to happen. how many mutations needs to happen for that lol, your funny... i guess it's easier to believe god snapped his fingers and "poof" all life just appeared? how do you explain the mass extinctions and the life that followed them then? at least 5 mass extinctions have happened so far...

msharmony Joined Mon 08/31/09 Posts: 61041	Sun 09/20/15 11:59 AM


1onlyaname Joined Sun 08/09/15 Posts: 1041	Sun 09/20/15 12:14 PM
Sorry again don't mean demean or antyhing, but weather it be scientific theory or just a theory, it's just an educated guess. Because if it were truly a "fact" it wouldn't be either "theories", it would be a scientific fact. That's the difference between theory and fact, one is absolute without a doubt, the other is "guessing" at points... or in other hands stating things along the lines of "assumptions" it will continue to be true, but again has no absolute fact behind it. Uh, no. A scientific theory explains how something works. It isn't a guess because it has been tested for accuracy. Sadly, scientific laymen have their own definition of "theory" that is different from the definition used by scientists. hahaha have you read science papers on evolution. it may have it could have there was a puddle of chemicals on the ground lightening must have struck the puddle. bingo we got life!! lol. a bear turned into a cow a cow turned into a whale. they were giving me its a scientific "theory" for 55 years everything they taught me in school has been debunked. 3rd grade they tried to teach me I was a fish. lol. poster of fish eggs and human eggs. see we are the same. LOL. show me one paper on evolution that doesn't say "it could have" the human eye evolved from a bump on a skin that became light sensitive. OK where did the skin come from. saying evolution is a fact causes me to laugh at you. OK prove it don't tell me It could have happened this way. a bear turned into a cow a cow turned into a whale. I'm a spiritual man I don't believe in science miracles and you don't have to believe in my spiritual miracles because neither of us can Prove It. so where is this "missing link" I've heard about all my life??? me thinks you need to have another read.seems you got the whole Thing Bassackward! what the whale turns into cow the cow turns into a bear??? its a hilarious scientific miracle lol. there's not enough billions of years for that to happen. how many mutations needs to happen for that lol, your funny... i guess it's easier to believe god snapped his fingers and "poof" all life just appeared? how do you explain the mass extinctions and the life that followed them then? at least 5 mass extinctions have happened so far... the fossil records shows an explosion of life not a slow one mutation at a time. Richard Dawkins ur all time leading expert says the human eye came from a bump on somethings skin now imagine 1+1+1+1+1 viola the human eye. lol what kind of science is that!!!! when he uses his chart I cracked up laughing he has a big chart with monkies apes oranatangs then he points at pictures say this and this made this. as he points to NOTHING!!! He just knows they made something he doesn't know what it made. That's science????

mightymoe Joined Sun 11/19/06 Posts: 37362	Sun 09/20/15 12:22 PM
Sorry again don't mean demean or antyhing, but weather it be scientific theory or just a theory, it's just an educated guess. Because if it were truly a "fact" it wouldn't be either "theories", it would be a scientific fact. That's the difference between theory and fact, one is absolute without a doubt, the other is "guessing" at points... or in other hands stating things along the lines of "assumptions" it will continue to be true, but again has no absolute fact behind it. Uh, no. A scientific theory explains how something works. It isn't a guess because it has been tested for accuracy. Sadly, scientific laymen have their own definition of "theory" that is different from the definition used by scientists. hahaha have you read science papers on evolution. it may have it could have there was a puddle of chemicals on the ground lightening must have struck the puddle. bingo we got life!! lol. a bear turned into a cow a cow turned into a whale. they were giving me its a scientific "theory" for 55 years everything they taught me in school has been debunked. 3rd grade they tried to teach me I was a fish. lol. poster of fish eggs and human eggs. see we are the same. LOL. show me one paper on evolution that doesn't say "it could have" the human eye evolved from a bump on a skin that became light sensitive. OK where did the skin come from. saying evolution is a fact causes me to laugh at you. OK prove it don't tell me It could have happened this way. a bear turned into a cow a cow turned into a whale. I'm a spiritual man I don't believe in science miracles and you don't have to believe in my spiritual miracles because neither of us can Prove It. so where is this "missing link" I've heard about all my life??? me thinks you need to have another read.seems you got the whole Thing Bassackward! what the whale turns into cow the cow turns into a bear??? its a hilarious scientific miracle lol. there's not enough billions of years for that to happen. how many mutations needs to happen for that lol, your funny... i guess it's easier to believe god snapped his fingers and "poof" all life just appeared? how do you explain the mass extinctions and the life that followed them then? at least 5 mass extinctions have happened so far... the fossil records shows an explosion of life not a slow one mutation at a time. Richard Dawkins ur all time leading expert says the human eye came from a bump on somethings skin now imagine 1+1+1+1+1 viola the human eye. lol what kind of science is that!!!! when he uses his chart I cracked up laughing he has a big chart with monkies apes oranatangs then he points at pictures say this and this made this. as he points to NOTHING!!! He just knows they made something he doesn't know what it made. That's science???? 4.5 billion years isn't long enough for you? BTW, chimps and orangutans have about 97% same DNA as humans... just because we can't see the changes in our 75 years of life doesn't mean it's not happening... try reading up on the changes that animals have made in the Galapagos Islands, how they Evolved in a short period of time just to survive...

Conrad_73 Joined Sat 09/29/07 Posts: 22488	Sun 09/20/15 12:32 PM
Sorry again don't mean demean or antyhing, but weather it be scientific theory or just a theory, it's just an educated guess. Because if it were truly a "fact" it wouldn't be either "theories", it would be a scientific fact. That's the difference between theory and fact, one is absolute without a doubt, the other is "guessing" at points... or in other hands stating things along the lines of "assumptions" it will continue to be true, but again has no absolute fact behind it. Uh, no. A scientific theory explains how something works. It isn't a guess because it has been tested for accuracy. Sadly, scientific laymen have their own definition of "theory" that is different from the definition used by scientists. hahaha have you read science papers on evolution. it may have it could have there was a puddle of chemicals on the ground lightening must have struck the puddle. bingo we got life!! lol. a bear turned into a cow a cow turned into a whale. they were giving me its a scientific "theory" for 55 years everything they taught me in school has been debunked. 3rd grade they tried to teach me I was a fish. lol. poster of fish eggs and human eggs. see we are the same. LOL. show me one paper on evolution that doesn't say "it could have" the human eye evolved from a bump on a skin that became light sensitive. OK where did the skin come from. saying evolution is a fact causes me to laugh at you. OK prove it don't tell me It could have happened this way. a bear turned into a cow a cow turned into a whale. I'm a spiritual man I don't believe in science miracles and you don't have to believe in my spiritual miracles because neither of us can Prove It. so where is this "missing link" I've heard about all my life??? me thinks you need to have another read.seems you got the whole Thing Bassackward! what the whale turns into cow the cow turns into a bear??? its a hilarious scientific miracle lol. there's not enough billions of years for that to happen. how many mutations needs to happen for that yep,the Whale loves to jew the Cud!

mightymoe Joined Sun 11/19/06 Posts: 37362	Sun 09/20/15 12:38 PM
Sorry again don't mean demean or antyhing, but weather it be scientific theory or just a theory, it's just an educated guess. Because if it were truly a "fact" it wouldn't be either "theories", it would be a scientific fact. That's the difference between theory and fact, one is absolute without a doubt, the other is "guessing" at points... or in other hands stating things along the lines of "assumptions" it will continue to be true, but again has no absolute fact behind it. Uh, no. A scientific theory explains how something works. It isn't a guess because it has been tested for accuracy. Sadly, scientific laymen have their own definition of "theory" that is different from the definition used by scientists. hahaha have you read science papers on evolution. it may have it could have there was a puddle of chemicals on the ground lightening must have struck the puddle. bingo we got life!! lol. a bear turned into a cow a cow turned into a whale. they were giving me its a scientific "theory" for 55 years everything they taught me in school has been debunked. 3rd grade they tried to teach me I was a fish. lol. poster of fish eggs and human eggs. see we are the same. LOL. show me one paper on evolution that doesn't say "it could have" the human eye evolved from a bump on a skin that became light sensitive. OK where did the skin come from. saying evolution is a fact causes me to laugh at you. OK prove it don't tell me It could have happened this way. a bear turned into a cow a cow turned into a whale. I'm a spiritual man I don't believe in science miracles and you don't have to believe in my spiritual miracles because neither of us can Prove It. so where is this "missing link" I've heard about all my life??? me thinks you need to have another read.seems you got the whole Thing Bassackward! what the whale turns into cow the cow turns into a bear??? its a hilarious scientific miracle lol. there's not enough billions of years for that to happen. how many mutations needs to happen for that yep,the Whale loves to jew the Cud! i was waiting for him to get the Jews involved in this, but you beat him to it...

1onlyaname Joined Sun 08/09/15 Posts: 1041	Sun 09/20/15 12:48 PM
Sorry again don't mean demean or antyhing, but weather it be scientific theory or just a theory, it's just an educated guess. Because if it were truly a "fact" it wouldn't be either "theories", it would be a scientific fact. That's the difference between theory and fact, one is absolute without a doubt, the other is "guessing" at points... or in other hands stating things along the lines of "assumptions" it will continue to be true, but again has no absolute fact behind it. Uh, no. A scientific theory explains how something works. It isn't a guess because it has been tested for accuracy. Sadly, scientific laymen have their own definition of "theory" that is different from the definition used by scientists. hahaha have you read science papers on evolution. it may have it could have there was a puddle of chemicals on the ground lightening must have struck the puddle. bingo we got life!! lol. a bear turned into a cow a cow turned into a whale. they were giving me its a scientific "theory" for 55 years everything they taught me in school has been debunked. 3rd grade they tried to teach me I was a fish. lol. poster of fish eggs and human eggs. see we are the same. LOL. show me one paper on evolution that doesn't say "it could have" the human eye evolved from a bump on a skin that became light sensitive. OK where did the skin come from. saying evolution is a fact causes me to laugh at you. OK prove it don't tell me It could have happened this way. a bear turned into a cow a cow turned into a whale. I'm a spiritual man I don't believe in science miracles and you don't have to believe in my spiritual miracles because neither of us can Prove It. so where is this "missing link" I've heard about all my life??? me thinks you need to have another read.seems you got the whole Thing Bassackward! what the whale turns into cow the cow turns into a bear??? its a hilarious scientific miracle lol. there's not enough billions of years for that to happen. how many mutations needs to happen for that lol, your funny... i guess it's easier to believe god snapped his fingers and "poof" all life just appeared? how do you explain the mass extinctions and the life that followed them then? at least 5 mass extinctions have happened so far... the fossil records shows an explosion of life not a slow one mutation at a time. Richard Dawkins ur all time leading expert says the human eye came from a bump on somethings skin now imagine 1+1+1+1+1 viola the human eye. lol what kind of science is that!!!! when he uses his chart I cracked up laughing he has a big chart with monkies apes oranatangs then he points at pictures say this and this made this. as he points to NOTHING!!! He just knows they made something he doesn't know what it made. That's science???? 4.5 billion years isn't long enough for you? BTW, chimps and orangutans have about 97% same DNA as humans... just because we can't see the changes in our 75 years of life doesn't mean it's not happening... try reading up on the changes that animals have made in the Galapagos Islands, how they Evolved in a short period of time just to survive... 3% difference in DNA is a light year apart the 97% shows we were designed by the same thing. 1.5 billions years to go from a bump on skin to the complexity of a human is not even close to enough time to evolve an eye from noting!!! unless a miracle happened and 5 billion mutations happened all at once. u can't prove ur theory nor can I prove my spiritual experiences.