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I really think they dont want to do their jobs UNLESS it involves an unchecked authority to kill people,,,, That sort of attitude is what makes things worse. I agree, their attitude does make it worse I wasn't talking about their attitude. how is it worse to aknowledge that some cops are such cowards that they cant do the job well unless they feel they will have the freedom to kill with impunity at any 'threat',,, You are not acknowledging. You are accusing. the same way I might 'accuse' michael jordan of being a great athlete,,,lol stating the obvious, judging on actions,,,and the fact that qualifying most any statement with 'some' makes it hard to refute its truth,, if it pertains to human beings and anything they are capable of doing,, So...you can make generalizations about the cops in Baltimore, but not the people who caused all this trouble to begin with?.....That's such a liberal idea....lol who said they cant ? They do it all day everyday, share their opinions, as do I,,,, and so long as they state their opinion about 'some' of whomever,, I will rarely disagree,,, so ,,, where were we again,,,,? Let's see. Oh, we were bringing in the Nation of Islam to be the police of Baltimore. Why not the black panthers too? |
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I really think they dont want to do their jobs UNLESS it involves an unchecked authority to kill people,,,, That sort of attitude is what makes things worse. I agree, their attitude does make it worse I wasn't talking about their attitude. how is it worse to aknowledge that some cops are such cowards that they cant do the job well unless they feel they will have the freedom to kill with impunity at any 'threat',,, You are not acknowledging. You are accusing. the same way I might 'accuse' michael jordan of being a great athlete,,,lol stating the obvious, judging on actions,,,and the fact that qualifying most any statement with 'some' makes it hard to refute its truth,, if it pertains to human beings and anything they are capable of doing,, So...you can make generalizations about the cops in Baltimore, but not the people who caused all this trouble to begin with?.....That's such a liberal idea....lol who said they cant ? They do it all day everyday, share their opinions, as do I,,,, and so long as they state their opinion about 'some' of whomever,, I will rarely disagree,,, so ,,, where were we again,,,,? Let's see. Oh, we were bringing in the Nation of Islam to be the police of Baltimore. Why not the black panthers too? the (new) black panthers seek out violence upon whites,, the Nation of Islam seeks out the protection of blacks two different agendas,,,thats why the question was what would 'blacks' do if the police aren't protecting them the security division of the group whose purpose is uplifting blacks ,has history interacting successfully with blacks, seems a rather obvious choice,,, |
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Let's see. Oh, we were bringing in the Nation of Islam to be the police of Baltimore. Why not the black panthers too? the (new) black panthers seek out violence upon whites,, the Nation of Islam seeks out the protection of blacks two different agendas,,,thats why the question was what would 'blacks' do if the police aren't protecting them the security division of the group whose purpose is uplifting blacks ,has history interacting successfully with blacks, seems a rather obvious choice,,, The Nation of Islam seeks out the protection of blacks from whites? So, who would interact and protect the whites there? |
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Let's see. Oh, we were bringing in the Nation of Islam to be the police of Baltimore. Why not the black panthers too? the (new) black panthers seek out violence upon whites,, the Nation of Islam seeks out the protection of blacks two different agendas,,,thats why the question was what would 'blacks' do if the police aren't protecting them the security division of the group whose purpose is uplifting blacks ,has history interacting successfully with blacks, seems a rather obvious choice,,, The Nation of Islam seeks out the protection of blacks from whites? So, who would interact and protect the whites there? actually, they seek out protection of blacks from anyone threatening them, including other blacks as far as the whites,, the question was specifically about 'blacks' and most crime by blacks is upon other blacks,, so Im sure the whites could continue to rely on police in their neighborhoods,,,, and the FOI , by protecting the black communities from threats, would by extension be also protecting those whites that lived there too,,, |
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alleoops
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Sun 06/07/15 01:20 PM
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Let's see. Oh, we were bringing in the Nation of Islam to be the police of Baltimore. Why not the black panthers too? the (new) black panthers seek out violence upon whites,, the Nation of Islam seeks out the protection of blacks two different agendas,,,thats why the question was what would 'blacks' do if the police aren't protecting them the security division of the group whose purpose is uplifting blacks ,has history interacting successfully with blacks, seems a rather obvious choice,,, The Nation of Islam seeks out the protection of blacks from whites? So, who would interact and protect the whites there? actually, they seek out protection of blacks from anyone threatening them, including other blacks as far as the whites,, the question was specifically about 'blacks' and most crime by blacks is upon other blacks,, so Im sure the whites could continue to rely on police in their neighborhoods,,,, and the FOI , by protecting the black communities from threats, would by extension be also protecting those whites that lived there too,,, But Farakahn says that the Jews and whites are the devils so they would have to be separated as he wants. |
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Let's see. Oh, we were bringing in the Nation of Islam to be the police of Baltimore. Why not the black panthers too? the (new) black panthers seek out violence upon whites,, the Nation of Islam seeks out the protection of blacks two different agendas,,,thats why the question was what would 'blacks' do if the police aren't protecting them the security division of the group whose purpose is uplifting blacks ,has history interacting successfully with blacks, seems a rather obvious choice,,, The Nation of Islam seeks out the protection of blacks from whites? So, who would interact and protect the whites there? actually, they seek out protection of blacks from anyone threatening them, including other blacks as far as the whites,, the question was specifically about 'blacks' and most crime by blacks is upon other blacks,, so Im sure the whites could continue to rely on police in their neighborhoods,,,, and the FOI , by protecting the black communities from threats, would by extension be also protecting those whites that lived there too,,, But Farakahn says that the Jews and whites are the devils so they would have to be separated as he wants. thats actually not what he said,, and what is being paraphrased was said decades ago it doesnt work like that |
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Let's see. Oh, we were bringing in the Nation of Islam to be the police of Baltimore. Why not the black panthers too? the (new) black panthers seek out violence upon whites,, the Nation of Islam seeks out the protection of blacks two different agendas,,,thats why the question was what would 'blacks' do if the police aren't protecting them the security division of the group whose purpose is uplifting blacks ,has history interacting successfully with blacks, seems a rather obvious choice,,, The Nation of Islam seeks out the protection of blacks from whites? So, who would interact and protect the whites there? actually, they seek out protection of blacks from anyone threatening them, including other blacks as far as the whites,, the question was specifically about 'blacks' and most crime by blacks is upon other blacks,, so Im sure the whites could continue to rely on police in their neighborhoods,,,, and the FOI , by protecting the black communities from threats, would by extension be also protecting those whites that lived there too,,, But Farakahn says that the Jews and whites are the devils so they would have to be separated as he wants. thats actually not what he said,, and what is being paraphrased was said decades ago it doesnt work like that What did he actually say? it doesnt work like that? Then how does it work? |
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msharmony
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Sun 06/07/15 03:32 PM
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Let's see. Oh, we were bringing in the Nation of Islam to be the police of Baltimore. Why not the black panthers too? the (new) black panthers seek out violence upon whites,, the Nation of Islam seeks out the protection of blacks two different agendas,,,thats why the question was what would 'blacks' do if the police aren't protecting them the security division of the group whose purpose is uplifting blacks ,has history interacting successfully with blacks, seems a rather obvious choice,,, The Nation of Islam seeks out the protection of blacks from whites? So, who would interact and protect the whites there? actually, they seek out protection of blacks from anyone threatening them, including other blacks as far as the whites,, the question was specifically about 'blacks' and most crime by blacks is upon other blacks,, so Im sure the whites could continue to rely on police in their neighborhoods,,,, and the FOI , by protecting the black communities from threats, would by extension be also protecting those whites that lived there too,,, But Farakahn says that the Jews and whites are the devils so they would have to be separated as he wants. thats actually not what he said,, and what is being paraphrased was said decades ago it doesnt work like that What did he actually say? it doesnt work like that? Then how does it work? pertaining to jews, what he spoke about was the synagogue of satan,, 'FAKE' jews, not actual jews,,, ,,, as mentioned in Revelations 3:9 I will make those who are of the synagogue of Satan, who claim to be Jews though they are not, but are liars--I will make them come and fall down at your feet and acknowledge that I have loved you. as to the devil comment, he does not teach all whites are devils,, though he ONCE made a statement that can be taken that way he taught that the original people were of God and then when the devil took his position over the world, he set up a second people far removed from the first,,,(europeans) to carry out his will, to confuse and disrupt and remove God and his teachings from society demographically, he believes, it is mostly whites(europeans) who have been charged with this particular form of calling(what we now call liberalism, I believe) where nothing should be judged and everything that feels good is good and the bible is just nonsense,,,etc,,, and this is where I disagree,, I believe there are representatives of that calling throughout all races,,,,,,so on this being of particularly EUROPEAN agenda,, I disagree,,, |
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Let's see. Oh, we were bringing in the Nation of Islam to be the police of Baltimore. Why not the black panthers too? the (new) black panthers seek out violence upon whites,, the Nation of Islam seeks out the protection of blacks two different agendas,,,thats why the question was what would 'blacks' do if the police aren't protecting them the security division of the group whose purpose is uplifting blacks ,has history interacting successfully with blacks, seems a rather obvious choice,,, The Nation of Islam seeks out the protection of blacks from whites? So, who would interact and protect the whites there? actually, they seek out protection of blacks from anyone threatening them, including other blacks as far as the whites,, the question was specifically about 'blacks' and most crime by blacks is upon other blacks,, so Im sure the whites could continue to rely on police in their neighborhoods,,,, and the FOI , by protecting the black communities from threats, would by extension be also protecting those whites that lived there too,,, But Farakahn says that the Jews and whites are the devils so they would have to be separated as he wants. thats actually not what he said,, and what is being paraphrased was said decades ago it doesnt work like that What did he actually say? it doesnt work like that? Then how does it work? pertaining to jews, what he spoke about was the synagogue of satan,, 'FAKE' jews, not actual jews,,, ,,, as mentioned in Revelations 3:9 I will make those who are of the synagogue of Satan, who claim to be Jews though they are not, but are liars--I will make them come and fall down at your feet and acknowledge that I have loved you. as to the devil comment, he does not teach all whites are devils,, though he ONCE made a statement that can be taken that way he taught that the original people were of God and then when the devil took his position over the world, he set up a second people far removed from the first,,,(europeans) to carry out his will, to confuse and disrupt and remove God and his teachings from society demographically, he believes, it is mostly whites(europeans) who have been charged with this particular form of calling(what we now call liberalism, I believe) where nothing should be judged and everything that feels good is good and the bible is just nonsense,,,etc,,, and this is where I disagree,, I believe there are representatives of that calling throughout all races,,,,,,so on this being of particularly EUROPEAN agenda,, I disagree,,, the synagogue of satan,, 'FAKE' jews, not actual jews. What is the "synagogue of satin"? Fake jews? what are not actual jews? |
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Let's see. Oh, we were bringing in the Nation of Islam to be the police of Baltimore. Why not the black panthers too? the (new) black panthers seek out violence upon whites,, the Nation of Islam seeks out the protection of blacks two different agendas,,,thats why the question was what would 'blacks' do if the police aren't protecting them the security division of the group whose purpose is uplifting blacks ,has history interacting successfully with blacks, seems a rather obvious choice,,, The Nation of Islam seeks out the protection of blacks from whites? So, who would interact and protect the whites there? actually, they seek out protection of blacks from anyone threatening them, including other blacks as far as the whites,, the question was specifically about 'blacks' and most crime by blacks is upon other blacks,, so Im sure the whites could continue to rely on police in their neighborhoods,,,, and the FOI , by protecting the black communities from threats, would by extension be also protecting those whites that lived there too,,, But Farakahn says that the Jews and whites are the devils so they would have to be separated as he wants. thats actually not what he said,, and what is being paraphrased was said decades ago it doesnt work like that What did he actually say? it doesnt work like that? Then how does it work? pertaining to jews, what he spoke about was the synagogue of satan,, 'FAKE' jews, not actual jews,,, ,,, as mentioned in Revelations 3:9 I will make those who are of the synagogue of Satan, who claim to be Jews though they are not, but are liars--I will make them come and fall down at your feet and acknowledge that I have loved you. as to the devil comment, he does not teach all whites are devils,, though he ONCE made a statement that can be taken that way he taught that the original people were of God and then when the devil took his position over the world, he set up a second people far removed from the first,,,(europeans) to carry out his will, to confuse and disrupt and remove God and his teachings from society demographically, he believes, it is mostly whites(europeans) who have been charged with this particular form of calling(what we now call liberalism, I believe) where nothing should be judged and everything that feels good is good and the bible is just nonsense,,,etc,,, and this is where I disagree,, I believe there are representatives of that calling throughout all races,,,,,,so on this being of particularly EUROPEAN agenda,, I disagree,,, the synagogue of satan,, 'FAKE' jews, not actual jews. What is the "synagogue of satin"? Fake jews? what are not actual jews? its easy enough to look up in simple terms 'fake' jews is closest as I can come people who profess to follow Judaism but don't, and/or preach a false gospel |
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Since the riots began in Baltimore, and the black people declared war(pretty much) on the cops of Baltimore city...there have been 51 murders. 47 were black people. Obviously, the cops aren't allowed to(or are afraid to) do their jobs for fear of accusations of racism. And the people continue the violence.... What now? What can they do? I actually agreed with the rioting in Baltimore becauae without nothing would have happened. I'd love to know were you got your stats from by the way. |
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Since the riots began in Baltimore, and the black people declared war(pretty much) on the cops of Baltimore city...there have been 51 murders. 47 were black people. Obviously, the cops aren't allowed to(or are afraid to) do their jobs for fear of accusations of racism. And the people continue the violence.... What now? What can they do? I actually agreed with the rioting in Baltimore becauae without nothing would have happened. Me too, people should be able to have the type of communities that they want. Like they have in South Africa. Police turn their backs there too. |
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Since the riots began in Baltimore, and the black people declared war(pretty much) on the cops of Baltimore city...there have been 51 murders. 47 were black people. Obviously, the cops aren't allowed to(or are afraid to) do their jobs for fear of accusations of racism. And the people continue the violence.... What now? What can they do? Today (CNN)— Forty-two people were killed in Baltimore in May, making it the deadliest month there since 1972. When asked what's behind that number, a Baltimore police officer gave an alarming answer. Basically, he said, the good guys are letting the bad guys win. "The criminal element feels as though that we're not going to run the risk of chasing them if they are armed with a gun, and they're using this opportunity to settle old beefs, or scores, with people that they have conflict with," the officer said. "I think the public really, really sees that they asked for a softer, less aggressive police department, and we have given them that, and now they are realizing that their way of thinking does not work." He was one of two active Baltimore police officers who spoke to CNN on Tuesday about crime in their city. They also touched on the death of Freddie Gray, a young black man who died in police custody, and the riots that followed. The officers were not given permission to speak from their department. Because of that, and in an attempt to allow them to talk candidly, CNN agreed on their condition of anonymity. Both said the Baltimore Police Department is simply reacting to events instead of being proactive. They talked about feeling abandoned by their leadership and feeling scared -- not about being hurt, necessarily, but about being charged criminally for doing what they see as their job. Six officers have been charged in Gray's death, which has been ruled a homicide . "Ultimately, it does a disservice to the law-abiding citizens. It does a disservice to the business owners. It does a disservice to everybody except the criminal element," the second officer said about operating in reactive mode. He denied the existence of a work slowdown but said he couldn't promise proactive policing. "Even though you have reasonable suspicion," he said, "nine out of 10 times, that officer is going to keep on driving." City and police officials have repeatedly denied any stand-down order was given to officers after of Gray's death. 'They feel betrayed' Worry has overtaken a lot of officers, and now morale is low, said Lt. Kenneth Butler, who heads a police union in Baltimore, the Vanguard Justice Society. "They feel as though, if I make a mistake -- which we all do make mistakes -- then what is this administration going to do to me?" he told CNN's Miguel Marquez. "Am I going to be the next one to be suspended? Am I going to be the next one who is going to be criminally charged?" One officer called the union leader to ask if he'd be liable if a suspect he was chasing ran into traffic and got hit by a car, Butler said. He couldn't answer the question, so the officer told Butler he'd stop pursuing suspects on foot for now. Normally, officers would do their duty more robustly, Butler said, but they don't feel like their leadership has their back anymore. "A lot of guys ... they feel betrayed," he said. |
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nine out of ten times they will keep driving
even though its only one out of a thousand times they kill someone and are held accountable like I said,, pretty cowardly, inconsistent with what should be considered for job candidates allow in others who arent so 'afraid' of what might happen if they cause someones death in the line of duty |
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nine out of ten times they will keep driving even though its only one out of a thousand times they kill someone and are held accountable like I said,, pretty cowardly, inconsistent with what should be considered for job candidates allow in others who arent so 'afraid' of what might happen if they cause someones death in the line of duty They should put that on the application. Age: __ Race: W B H C Sex: M F Coward: Y N |
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allow in others who arent so 'afraid' of what might happen if they cause someones death in the line of duty Better yet, allow in others who aren't afraid what people will think if they shoot in self defense. |
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Edited by
msharmony
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hypothetical questions may work too
what do you do if you are called to break up unruly teens at a pool party? a. disperse the crowd as peacefully as possible b. immediately chase and round up whomever you can while pulling a gun to make sure you are safe what do you do if you pull someone for a traffic violation and they exit , on foot, and run? a. give chase and call for backup with your location b. give chase and if he doesnt stop and give in , begin shooting to 'effect' your arrest what do you do if you give chase to suspects in a car and they drive into a parking lot and make some gesture inside the car a. empty your gun into the car to be sure you are safe,, and then reload and jump on the hood and fire some more if the car moves b. take cover where you are safe and attempt to take out the car until you can verify who else is in the car ,,,,,ya know? just what seems like simple common sense/ respect for human life type questions,,, |
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allow in others who arent so 'afraid' of what might happen if they cause someones death in the line of duty Better yet, allow in others who aren't afraid what people will think if they shoot in self defense. right? if its truly self defense, surely that justice system that so adequately prosecutes 'criminals' will prove it and clear their name,,, |
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This is kinda funny...to me anyways....
"" BALTIMORE — Lawyers for six Baltimore police officers charged in the death of Freddie Gray demanded the removal of the city's top prosecutor from their case on Tuesday, saying she was the one who asked for "enhanced" police attention at the intersection where they encountered the young black man. An email sent to police weeks before Gray died from the spinal injury he suffered in police custody shows State's Attorney Marilyn Mosby has a conflict of interest, the attorneys argued, because she had wanted police to target North Avenue and Mount Street, the intersection in West Baltimore where Gray ran from police on April 12. The defense motion filed Tuesday says Mosby "is now an integral part of the story ... both as an advocate and a witness." Officers caught up to Gray two blocks away, restrained him and put him in a police van that made several stops before reaching the station roughly 45 minutes later. By then, he was unresponsive, and died after a week in a coma. Mosby charged the officers May 1 with crimes ranging from misdemeanor assault to second- degree "depraved-heart" murder. Mosby also said Gray's arrest was illegal because officers handcuffed him prior to discovering the knife that became the basis for the charges. On March 17, Joshua Rosenblatt, division chief of Mosby's crime strategies unit, emailed Police Cmdr. Osborne Robinson, saying "Mosby asked me to look into community concerns regarding drug dealing in the area of North Ave. and Mount St." In the email, Rosenblatt praised earlier police efforts there, and said "we'd like to build on that success by targeting that intersection for enhanced prosecutorial (and hopefully police) attention." Robinson forwarded Rosenblatt's email on March 20 to his lieutenants, including Brian Rice, who is charged with reckless endangerment, assault and misconduct in office in Gray's death, and said he would be monitoring their results. "You will conduct a daily narcotics initiative addressing North and Mount St. Your units need to utilize the cameras, activate/develop informants, conduct covert, etc.," Robinson wrote. "This is effective immediately." A spokeswoman for Mosby, Rochelle Ritchie, declined comment Tuesday, saying "we will litigate this case in the courtroom and not in the media." In other recent action on the case, Judge Charles Peters on Thursday turned down Mosby's request for a gag order that would have barred attorneys, police and witnesses from talking about the case publicly."" http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/wireStory/judge-strikes-motion-gag-order-baltimore-police-case-31635549 Now the funny part..... "" In other recent action on the case, Judge Charles Peters on Thursday turned down Mosby's request for a gag order that would have barred attorneys, police and witnesses from talking about the case publicly."" That contemptuous ***** had no problem using the media publicly in her first announcement condemning the officers....guess its different now. And let me go ahead and respond to a certain posters inevitable response.... |
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