Topic: What now, Baltimore?.....
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Sat 06/06/15 04:53 PM

this thread was not about unemployed people

I concede that not ALL unemployed people want to work (as I said, not all employed people want to either), that some may be lazy or 'chronically' unemployed

but none of that really has much to do with the point of opening up the positions of those cops who don't wish to do their jobs to those who are unemployed and in need of and wanting work


Most police do their jobs and have been doing it for a long time. It's a dangerous and often unappreciated job. They deal with the lowest form of scum on the streets, daily. I wouldn't want to do it. Nor would I want someone who is not employable to do it just because they are in need and want a job.

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Sat 06/06/15 04:57 PM

Perhaps Baltimore can become the home of ...




The Democrat Party and they could have all their conventions there.
Yea, that's the ticket.

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Sat 06/06/15 07:04 PM


this thread was not about unemployed people

I concede that not ALL unemployed people want to work (as I said, not all employed people want to either), that some may be lazy or 'chronically' unemployed

but none of that really has much to do with the point of opening up the positions of those cops who don't wish to do their jobs to those who are unemployed and in need of and wanting work


Most police do their jobs and have been doing it for a long time. It's a dangerous and often unappreciated job. They deal with the lowest form of scum on the streets, daily. I wouldn't want to do it. Nor would I want someone who is not employable to do it just because they are in need and want a job.


noone has said who doesn't do their job,, but that those who DO NOT wish to do it,,,,who are purposely avoiding going out on potentially dangerous calls,,,,,

need to have those jobs opened to someone who is available and WANTS to work,,,,,,they dont have a way to know if they will employ an officer until they APPLY and PASS the screening and training, and that way they cant do it 'just because they are in need of a job',,,

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Sat 06/06/15 07:12 PM



this thread was not about unemployed people

I concede that not ALL unemployed people want to work (as I said, not all employed people want to either), that some may be lazy or 'chronically' unemployed

but none of that really has much to do with the point of opening up the positions of those cops who don't wish to do their jobs to those who are unemployed and in need of and wanting work


Most police do their jobs and have been doing it for a long time. It's a dangerous and often unappreciated job. They deal with the lowest form of scum on the streets, daily. I wouldn't want to do it. Nor would I want someone who is not employable to do it just because they are in need and want a job.


noone has said who doesn't do their job,, but that those who DO NOT wish to do it,,,,who are purposely avoiding going out on potentially dangerous calls,,,,,

need to have those jobs opened to someone who is available and WANTS to work,,,,,,they dont have a way to know if they will employ an officer until they APPLY and PASS the screening and training, and that way they cant do it 'just because they are in need of a job',,,


Do you seriously think those officers DON'T WANT to do their jobs? Or do they fear the repercussions of DOING their job?

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Sat 06/06/15 07:21 PM




this thread was not about unemployed people

I concede that not ALL unemployed people want to work (as I said, not all employed people want to either), that some may be lazy or 'chronically' unemployed

but none of that really has much to do with the point of opening up the positions of those cops who don't wish to do their jobs to those who are unemployed and in need of and wanting work


Most police do their jobs and have been doing it for a long time. It's a dangerous and often unappreciated job. They deal with the lowest form of scum on the streets, daily. I wouldn't want to do it. Nor would I want someone who is not employable to do it just because they are in need and want a job.


noone has said who doesn't do their job,, but that those who DO NOT wish to do it,,,,who are purposely avoiding going out on potentially dangerous calls,,,,,

need to have those jobs opened to someone who is available and WANTS to work,,,,,,they dont have a way to know if they will employ an officer until they APPLY and PASS the screening and training, and that way they cant do it 'just because they are in need of a job',,,


Do you seriously think those officers DON'T WANT to do their jobs? Or do they fear the repercussions of DOING their job?


I really think they dont want to do their jobs UNLESS it involves an unchecked authority to kill people,,,,


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Sat 06/06/15 07:26 PM

I really think they dont want to do their jobs UNLESS it involves an unchecked authority to kill people,,,,


That sort of attitude is what makes things worse.

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Sat 06/06/15 07:29 PM


I really think they dont want to do their jobs UNLESS it involves an unchecked authority to kill people,,,,


That sort of attitude is what makes things worse.


I agree, their attitude does make it worse

they are PAID and TRAINED for the dangers they face, they have equipment as well,, so if they are too AFRAID that they wont be able to do the job within the confines of an expectation to use CAUTION with suspects instead of killing them, particularly UNARMED suspects,, then perhaps its not the job for them and someone else can take that PAY, PENSION, EQUIPMENT, and TRAINING And do the job that millions of officers do every day


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Sat 06/06/15 07:35 PM



I really think they dont want to do their jobs UNLESS it involves an unchecked authority to kill people,,,,


That sort of attitude is what makes things worse.


I agree, their attitude does make it worse

they are PAID and TRAINED for the dangers they face, they have equipment as well,, so if they are too AFRAID that they wont be able to do the job within the confines of an expectation to use CAUTION with suspects instead of killing them, particularly UNARMED suspects,, then perhaps its not the job for them and someone else can take that PAY, PENSION, EQUIPMENT, and TRAINING And do the job that millions of officers do every day




And you're suggesting the black people in Baltimore who've never had a job in their life???...lol

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Sat 06/06/15 07:39 PM



I really think they dont want to do their jobs UNLESS it involves an unchecked authority to kill people,,,,


That sort of attitude is what makes things worse.


I agree, their attitude does make it worse


I wasn't talking about their attitude.

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Sat 06/06/15 07:56 PM




I really think they dont want to do their jobs UNLESS it involves an unchecked authority to kill people,,,,


That sort of attitude is what makes things worse.


I agree, their attitude does make it worse

they are PAID and TRAINED for the dangers they face, they have equipment as well,, so if they are too AFRAID that they wont be able to do the job within the confines of an expectation to use CAUTION with suspects instead of killing them, particularly UNARMED suspects,, then perhaps its not the job for them and someone else can take that PAY, PENSION, EQUIPMENT, and TRAINING And do the job that millions of officers do every day




And you're suggesting the black people in Baltimore who've never had a job in their life???...lol


you are projecting here

I didnt suggest any specific race or the status of employment, I merely stated it should go to those who want work and will do the job,,

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Sat 06/06/15 07:57 PM




I really think they dont want to do their jobs UNLESS it involves an unchecked authority to kill people,,,,


That sort of attitude is what makes things worse.


I agree, their attitude does make it worse


I wasn't talking about their attitude.


how is it worse to aknowledge that some cops are such cowards that they cant do the job well unless they feel they will have the freedom to kill with impunity at any 'threat',,,

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Sat 06/06/15 08:03 PM





I really think they dont want to do their jobs UNLESS it involves an unchecked authority to kill people,,,,


That sort of attitude is what makes things worse.


I agree, their attitude does make it worse


I wasn't talking about their attitude.


how is it worse to aknowledge that some cops are such cowards that they cant do the job well unless they feel they will have the freedom to kill with impunity at any 'threat',,,


You are not acknowledging. You are accusing.

msharmony's photo
Sat 06/06/15 08:06 PM






I really think they dont want to do their jobs UNLESS it involves an unchecked authority to kill people,,,,


That sort of attitude is what makes things worse.


I agree, their attitude does make it worse


I wasn't talking about their attitude.


how is it worse to aknowledge that some cops are such cowards that they cant do the job well unless they feel they will have the freedom to kill with impunity at any 'threat',,,


You are not acknowledging. You are accusing.



the same way I might 'accuse' michael jordan of being a great athlete,,,lol

stating the obvious, judging on actions,,,and the fact that qualifying most any statement with 'some' makes it hard to refute its truth,, if it pertains to human beings and anything they are capable of doing,,

bashajones's photo
Sat 06/06/15 08:36 PM







I really think they dont want to do their jobs UNLESS it involves an unchecked authority to kill people,,,,


That sort of attitude is what makes things worse.


I agree, their attitude does make it worse


I wasn't talking about their attitude.


how is it worse to aknowledge that some cops are such cowards that they cant do the job well unless they feel they will have the freedom to kill with impunity at any 'threat',,,


You are not acknowledging. You are accusing.



the same way I might 'accuse' michael jordan of being a great athlete,,,lol

stating the obvious, judging on actions,,,and the fact that qualifying most any statement with 'some' makes it hard to refute its truth,, if it pertains to human beings and anything they are capable of doing,,


So...you can make generalizations about the cops in Baltimore, but not the people who caused all this trouble to begin with?.....That's such a liberal idea....lol

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Sat 06/06/15 11:15 PM





this thread was not about unemployed people

I concede that not ALL unemployed people want to work (as I said, not all employed people want to either), that some may be lazy or 'chronically' unemployed

but none of that really has much to do with the point of opening up the positions of those cops who don't wish to do their jobs to those who are unemployed and in need of and wanting work


Most police do their jobs and have been doing it for a long time. It's a dangerous and often unappreciated job. They deal with the lowest form of scum on the streets, daily. I wouldn't want to do it. Nor would I want someone who is not employable to do it just because they are in need and want a job.


noone has said who doesn't do their job,, but that those who DO NOT wish to do it,,,,who are purposely avoiding going out on potentially dangerous calls,,,,,

need to have those jobs opened to someone who is available and WANTS to work,,,,,,they dont have a way to know if they will employ an officer until they APPLY and PASS the screening and training, and that way they cant do it 'just because they are in need of a job',,,


Do you seriously think those officers DON'T WANT to do their jobs? Or do they fear the repercussions of DOING their job?


I really think they dont want to do their jobs UNLESS it involves an unchecked authority to kill people,,,,




Such thinking is different.noway

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Sun 06/07/15 06:11 AM


I consider it foolish to suggest that unemployed adults in Baltimore want to be unemployed.


How about, would you consider it also foolish to suggest that some unemployed adults in Baltimore want to be unemployed?:tongue:


If there was a Mingle2
" Hall of Fame" .
I vote for this !
:thumbsup:

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Sun 06/07/15 06:22 AM


Perhaps Baltimore can become the home of ...




The Democrat Party and they could have all their conventions there.
Yea, that's the ticket.

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No one would be around to pay for it, protect them (though they do have their own armed Christian guards...:tongue: ), or to put out the fires or clean up after the ' protest ' :banana:


* bigsmile Good times *

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Sun 06/07/15 10:35 AM



I consider it foolish to suggest that unemployed adults in Baltimore want to be unemployed.


How about, would you consider it also foolish to suggest that some unemployed adults in Baltimore want to be unemployed?:tongue:


If there was a Mingle2
" Hall of Fame" .
I vote for this !
:thumbsup:


Me too! drinker

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Sun 06/07/15 11:57 AM
Edited by msharmony on Sun 06/07/15 11:58 AM








I really think they dont want to do their jobs UNLESS it involves an unchecked authority to kill people,,,,


That sort of attitude is what makes things worse.


I agree, their attitude does make it worse


I wasn't talking about their attitude.


how is it worse to aknowledge that some cops are such cowards that they cant do the job well unless they feel they will have the freedom to kill with impunity at any 'threat',,,


You are not acknowledging. You are accusing.



the same way I might 'accuse' michael jordan of being a great athlete,,,lol

stating the obvious, judging on actions,,,and the fact that qualifying most any statement with 'some' makes it hard to refute its truth,, if it pertains to human beings and anything they are capable of doing,,


So...you can make generalizations about the cops in Baltimore, but not the people who caused all this trouble to begin with?.....That's such a liberal idea....lol



who said they cant ? They do it all day everyday, share their opinions, as do I,,,, and so long as they state their opinion about 'some' of whomever,, I will rarely disagree,,,



so ,,, where were we again,,,,?

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Sun 06/07/15 12:06 PM




I consider it foolish to suggest that unemployed adults in Baltimore want to be unemployed.


How about, would you consider it also foolish to suggest that some unemployed adults in Baltimore want to be unemployed?:tongue:



of course some don't,, some EMPLOYED people don't want to be employed


but it still distracts from the original suggestion of turning to unemployed to fill police jobs if they don't want to do them,,,,



There are 900,000 sworn law enforcement officers now serving in the United States; one of them is killed in the line of duty every two days.
I'm sure there would be a long line of applicants.laugh



Im sure there would be too

lets put itin perspective


by your own stats,, that means there are 178 officers killed in their job every year

in 2013, for instance,,,215 construction workers died,,, 750 sales drivers/truck drivers died......in the line of duty,, yet these jobs have no lack of applications either

cops aren't the only job that take on an element of danger,, the employee generally addresses that with proper training and equipment

and the applicants USUALLY agree to and make the choice to accept the employment KNOWING these facts,, or they don't